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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
January 28 2012 20:55 GMT
#601
WTF is illusion diong??????? nervous?
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
January 28 2012 20:56 GMT
#602
1base again? Wow, pretty dissappointing. Especially after seeing his play vs asd, I was expecting more. Maybe he had a bad day or perhaps tvp is his weak mu, however this wasn't what I was expecting.
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 28 2012 20:56 GMT
#603
Hahahaha this is so awful. You guys had $3k and this is the best you could put up?

User was warned for this post
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
January 28 2012 20:56 GMT
#604
On January 29 2012 05:55 -_- wrote:
WTF is illusion diong??????? nervous?


WTF is Incontrol doing... he cut workers like crazy. Didn't build his 16 pylon tell he was supply blocked...
I am Godzilla You are Japan
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 28 2012 20:57 GMT
#605
On January 29 2012 05:54 Bagration wrote:
Illusion is good, but these games were not the best showcase of that ability. Beating Lucky and Choya and playing pretty evenly against asd is pretty impressive. These last two games were not good, but it does not mean he's a bad player.


Choya kinda screwed himself over in that game.

At the very least we can infer that Illusion does not have much confidence in his TvP and is not willing to play a macro game.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 28 2012 20:57 GMT
#606
excuses....
SaSe fan club manager
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
January 28 2012 20:58 GMT
#607
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
Dusen
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark68 Posts
January 28 2012 20:58 GMT
#608
Getting 3 1 base games in a row is not very interesting.
Hoping for at least 1 macro game
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 28 2012 20:59 GMT
#609
On January 29 2012 05:58 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er


The difference between a weak TvP'er and a strong TvP'er is how well they can execute a 1/1/1 anyway =p
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 28 2012 20:59 GMT
#610
On January 29 2012 05:58 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er

did puma 1/1/1 mana, mc, sase, hero etc? if yes i think puma sucks in tvp (his best match-up)
SaSe fan club manager
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 21:01:36
January 28 2012 21:00 GMT
#611
On January 29 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 05:54 Bagration wrote:
Illusion is good, but these games were not the best showcase of that ability. Beating Lucky and Choya and playing pretty evenly against asd is pretty impressive. These last two games were not good, but it does not mean he's a bad player.


Choya kinda screwed himself over in that game.

At the very least we can infer that Illusion does not have much confidence in his TvP and is not willing to play a macro game.


I cannot say what was the reasoning behind his strategies, but I am sure he had sufficient reason behind them to do them in a tournament. First 2 games were unsuccessful, but 3 game at least got him the win. Maybe his TvP is his weakness matchup (likely), but his TvT and TvZ are strong.

I only responded because I did not want people to get the impression that Illusion is a bad, cheesy player. He is definitely capable of playing strong macro games.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
January 28 2012 21:00 GMT
#612
On January 29 2012 05:58 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er


Choya just did something dumb. That game was not indicative of either player.

At any rate, Illusion looks inconsistently both good and bad. Not sure what else to say to be honest.
Gameplay > Personality
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
January 28 2012 21:01 GMT
#613
On January 29 2012 05:59 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 05:58 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er

did puma 1/1/1 mana, mc, sase, hero etc? if yes i think puma sucks in tvp (his best match-up)


Well Puma has demonstrated that he can play a solid macro game tvp.

Havn't seen that from Illusion yet, ofc I havnt seen that much but still. Seems weird to play only all ins vs Incontrol if you know how to play macro tvp, seeing as incontrol isnt that strong. Theres a difference.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 21:07:12
January 28 2012 21:06 GMT
#614
On January 29 2012 05:58 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er


Choya did a 1 base blink stalker all-in. Illusion got marauders and expanded. GG from there.

On January 29 2012 06:00 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 05:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 29 2012 05:54 Bagration wrote:
Illusion is good, but these games were not the best showcase of that ability. Beating Lucky and Choya and playing pretty evenly against asd is pretty impressive. These last two games were not good, but it does not mean he's a bad player.


Choya kinda screwed himself over in that game.

At the very least we can infer that Illusion does not have much confidence in his TvP and is not willing to play a macro game.


I cannot say what was the reasoning behind his strategies, but I am sure he had sufficient reason behind them to do them in a tournament. First 2 games were unsuccessful, but 3 game at least got him the win. Maybe his TvP is his weakness matchup (likely), but his TvT and TvZ are strong.

I only responded because I did not want people to get the impression that Illusion is a bad, cheesy player. He is definitely capable of playing strong macro games.


I can understand the point of the tank push on Crossfire, but three times in a row is pushing the boundaries of "sound strategy".

On January 29 2012 05:59 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 05:58 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Did Illu 1/1/1 Choya? If yes I think we have ourselfs a weak TvP'er

did puma 1/1/1 mana, mc, sase, hero etc? if yes i think puma sucks in tvp (his best match-up)


Funny thing is, Hero won Dreamhack because he abused Puma's greedy marine expands with fast stalker pressure.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 21:08:48
January 28 2012 21:08 GMT
#615
I kinda wish casters wouldn't say "player x won WCG" when they really mean "won the WCG qualifiers for their country"

--

hrm yeah, looking like Illusions TvP is just not very good.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 28 2012 21:09 GMT
#616
These games are so terrible, ugh.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
January 28 2012 21:09 GMT
#617
Haha incontrol always kills me with his colossus control.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
January 28 2012 21:10 GMT
#618
that was cute from Illusion at least, targets down the last stalker so he can save his medivac and a couple of marines
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
January 28 2012 21:10 GMT
#619
wowsers the micro is so intense!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 28 2012 21:11 GMT
#620
Oh god, incontrol gonna lose this...
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