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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 19:33:08
January 15 2012 19:27 GMT
#2661
On January 16 2012 04:23 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 04:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 16 2012 04:15 JohnMatrix wrote:
it should be closed, I dont think it will be one sided


Unless Thorzain gets aggressive in the mid-game he's screwed. Stephano's style is very strong against a passive macro player and he doesn't get too greedy.

On January 16 2012 04:16 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 04:14 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 16 2012 04:09 Demonaz wrote:
I'm really interested to see how Stephano handles the great Spoon Terran style


I'm afraid this will be a very one-sided final, Thorzain struggled vs Ret ... he has no chance vs Stephano.


I disagree Thorzain style is actually the worst that can happend to Stephano. Stephano is a very agressive low econ zerg if he dont do dmg Thorzain will power ahead.

So if somehow Thorzain can avoid taking to much dmg then it will be very close.


That's not how Stephano plays. I don't think you understand the benefits of Stephano's style at all.


Ok, I have just been watching stephano since he was unknown. He is best vs agressive terran players. Passive and huge macro that are very defensive minded can give Stephano problems. Take the last serie with stephano and thorzain and you see it


Stephano's style is very defensive and works against early-game T aggression but it also transitions well into the late game since he gets his upgrades very quickly. If a terran plays defensive and expands quickly it breaks even since Stephano likes to play defensive and expands quickly after he gets settled down. Stephano's main weakness is mid-game pushes that punish him before his 3rd and 4th bases finish.

EDIT: Thorzain just proved my point.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#2662
anyone else getting some slight lag once in a while?
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
January 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#2663
On January 16 2012 04:27 demitap wrote:
jesus that shit that TB does to announce player name is one of the most stupid think i have ever heard, really, please don't ever do that.


you shouldn't let the little things bother you so much
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#2664
On January 16 2012 04:28 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 04:27 demitap wrote:
jesus that shit that TB does to announce player name is one of the most stupid think i have ever heard, really, please don't ever do that.


you shouldn't let the little things bother you so much

true but it really annoys after so many times, i have to hand it that guy
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#2665
wow thorzain insane drop
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
January 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#2666
oh shit that was painful way to go tzain
Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
January 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#2667
Simply brilliant. No baneling nest? Ok!
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 19:32:36
January 15 2012 19:32 GMT
#2668
damn thorzain, nice drop harass
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
January 15 2012 19:33 GMT
#2669
On January 16 2012 04:28 Roe wrote:
anyone else getting some slight lag once in a while?


not slight, absolutely huge lag. everytime any twitch stream goes over 30k viewers i start getting more and more lag. wish they would just fix their shit. people hate on own3d but it never lags near as much.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
January 15 2012 19:35 GMT
#2670
Wow infestors standing in tank fire.
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
January 15 2012 19:35 GMT
#2671
thats just silly
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
discobaas
Profile Joined December 2011
225 Posts
January 15 2012 19:35 GMT
#2672
is there a stream with english casting, without TB? tnx
you're wrong
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
January 15 2012 19:36 GMT
#2673
On January 16 2012 04:35 discobaas wrote:
is there a stream with english casting, without TB? tnx


it wouldnt even be here without tb..you can always mute the sound.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 15 2012 19:37 GMT
#2674
On January 16 2012 04:35 discobaas wrote:
is there a stream with english casting, without TB? tnx


Want to learn basic TeamLiquid rules before posting?
discobaas
Profile Joined December 2011
225 Posts
January 15 2012 19:37 GMT
#2675
On January 16 2012 04:36 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 04:35 discobaas wrote:
is there a stream with english casting, without TB? tnx


it wouldnt even be here without tb..you can always mute the sound.

I know, that's why I'm not attacking him.
Yeah I'm listening to the french one now, with my shitty 5 yr old highschool french skills :D
you're wrong
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 15 2012 19:38 GMT
#2676
really nice defend by stephano gotta give it to him
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
January 15 2012 19:38 GMT
#2677
Omg if Stephano wins this he is my new superhero.
Shadow and dust
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
January 15 2012 19:38 GMT
#2678
How did Stephano hold that....?
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
January 15 2012 19:38 GMT
#2679
stephano so good wow
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
January 15 2012 19:38 GMT
#2680
He's so good.
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