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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2012 19:21 GMT
#3621
On January 08 2012 04:20 SeaSwift wrote:
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On January 08 2012 04:19 teddyoojo wrote:
On January 08 2012 04:18 RealQ wrote:
Why is 5-4 better than 4-3.. ?

i think it comes from football, its like 50 goals to 20 is better than 40 to 10 because 50 goals are more entertainment
thats how its usually done


If you ever reach 50 goals to 20 in 1.5 hours you must play some CRAZY football.

what about in a season?
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
January 07 2012 19:21 GMT
#3622
On January 08 2012 04:20 Naphal wrote:
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On January 08 2012 04:20 HTD wrote:
people cant count,are u all americans?


too funny coming from greece.


Wow that was a very good one :D
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CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3623
come on grubby
Chill Winston......
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3624
On January 08 2012 04:21 Jayjay54 wrote:
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On January 08 2012 04:18 Asha` wrote:
On January 08 2012 04:18 Kentredenite wrote:
Why is 5-4 better than 4-3? 4-3 is a higher win percentage... (and Grubby has the head-to-head)


5 map wins is more than 4?


that makes sense for soccer, because you want to encourage offensive play, but it doesn't make sense for mapscore.

so it's gonna be dima +3 first, then tie between grubby and sound => head to head => grubby advances as second

100% this

This rule is good for soccer but is absolutely not relevant for StarCraft. A player is not more or less offensive because of what mapscore he had. Either it is a tie or 4-3 is better because it is a higher win percentage.
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3625
On January 08 2012 04:20 HTD wrote:
people cant count,are u all americans?

We are only half broke, you are totally bankrupted. We count better.
MC for president
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 19:22:53
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3626
On January 08 2012 04:20 cyclone25 wrote:
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On January 08 2012 04:19 RealQ wrote:
This is very logical tho, i dont see why 5-4 would advance over 4-3


Exactly, in most tournaments, the players who loses less maps advances in case of a score like this. It's not about who wins most maps.


Erm what? What SC tournaments have used this rules? +/- on maps makes the most sense to me.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3627
What? I really don't like this. It's not about being +1 or whatever, 5-4 is a better percentage than 4-3. I really think Sound should be through, as much as I wish Grubby was.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3628
There are only 2 possible rulesets, either direct encounter counts first or mapscore counts first. Either way Grubby is out. What they are saying there is definitely wrong.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3629
Is 4-3 better than 5-4 or both are equal on +1 but Grubby wins because of the head-to-head?
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3630
alright they corrected it!

ace game between grubby and sound --> winner advances

dimaga is through--> if sound wins dima is second in group --> if grubby wins dima would be 1st in the group!

gogo grubby!
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
January 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#3631
On January 08 2012 04:20 HolydaKing wrote:
this must be something new, i remember former HSC where mapscore was > head to head


I think it is but they calculate mapscore into a single number, so 5-3 is +2, 1-4 is -3.
Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3632
Bitter getting BURNEEDDD
beute
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany197 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3633
On January 08 2012 04:20 MESeidel wrote:
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On January 08 2012 04:19 beute wrote:
4:3 wins over 5:4

no they are equal but as grubby would had won over Sound he would advance.

no.

4/3 = 1.33333333
5/4 = 1.25

4:3 is the better win percentage
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3634
Please grubby win. You are such an awesome guy and a hard worker. I would like nothing more than for you to advance.
Evil Geniuses<3
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3635
On January 08 2012 04:22 Gorlin wrote:
What? I really don't like this. It's not about being +1 or whatever, 5-4 is a better percentage than 4-3. I really think Sound should be through, as much as I wish Grubby was.

PLease do ur math, 5-4 is NOT a better percentage
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3636
LOL, Rotterdam always bashing on Bitter :D

<3
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3637
Gotta love Rotti/Bitter banter. So entertaining.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3638
jyp about to win 2-0 91 supply to 40
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Bluedraqy
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark496 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3639
On January 08 2012 04:22 RyF wrote:
alright they corrected it!

ace game between grubby and sound --> winner advances

dimaga is through--> if sound wins dima is second in group --> if grubby wins dima would be 1st in the group!

gogo grubby!

This guy got it! :D
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#3640
On January 08 2012 04:22 Paragleiber wrote:
There are only 2 possible rulesets, either direct encounter counts first or mapscore counts first. Either way Grubby is out. What they are saying there is definitely wrong.

nope, you're basing this on soccer rules with goals which has nothing to do with this. the motivation behind that rule for soccer does not apply to starcraft thus the rule should never exist in our scene.
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