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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On January 15 2012 08:13 zere wrote: Just added 박남규, according to PlayXP entries he is ZeNEX.Moon (yes, another Moon. No, not that one. No, not that one, either. ![]() Edit: Also, who is TSL.Dream? TSL Dream is a lesser know Terran player that's been on TSL for a while now apparently (He's not MvPDream either) | ||
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United States5770 Posts
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Diamond
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Brunei Darussalam760 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On January 15 2012 07:14 Diamond wrote: Look at pretty much any online tourney and you'll see this happen. Stuff comes up, and even sometimes coaches (since coaches sign up the players) forget to tell said players. There's no 100% solution to it, but it's been getting better every week. I do think there should be some sort of punishment for not showing up though.. It's a respectable tournament, and even though having the coaches choose the players is an easy method of inviting players, having players skip out, whether it's the coaches fault or not, deserves at least a suspension or something. If the coaches are actually the biggest part of the problem, then maybe you should get a Korean to invite the Koreans directly or something. Even though it's a high caliber tournament, it feels much less important that it really is when people don't respect it. | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On January 15 2012 15:01 Shinta) wrote: I do think there should be some sort of punishment for not showing up though.. It's a respectable tournament, and even though having the coaches choose the players is an easy method of inviting players, having players skip out, whether it's the coaches fault or not, deserves at least a suspension or something. If the coaches are actually the biggest part of the problem, then maybe you should get a Korean to invite the Koreans directly or something. Even though it's a high caliber tournament, it feels much less important that it really is when people don't respect it. Well don't forget there is a lot of things at play. Take example if a team signs up a player days in advance (which we encourage) and the player is sick. He should be punished for being sick? What if they had any one of 14,500 possible real life emergencies or situations that they did not have days before. Now obviously there are more walkovers then people that could happen to be sick, but the point is stuff comes up. Hopefully soon we will be using a bracket system that allows for check ins, but currently we are not. I don't think punishing for missing in a $200 weekly (even if it feeds into bigger things) is fair in any way and even more so since no weekly out there does it. I'm not getting in the business of punishing players for everything possible. I only want to punish in rare scenarios (CoCa/Byun) and in others I work with the players to try and help them understand why they should do things like this. For example in a recent weekly two same team players were going to have one forfeit because they did not want to play a teammate. I pulled them aside and explained in particular since CoCa/Byun that NA fans would frown upon this and did not like. When explained this, they said "no problem" and played the series (played it out 100% too, great series at that) and now they understand why not to do that in the future. Let's not jump on punishing everyone for everything, it's just p[art of the growing phase. | ||
Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
On January 15 2012 15:10 Diamond wrote: Well don't forget there is a lot of things at play. Take example if a team signs up a player days in advance (which we encourage) and the player is sick. He should be punished for being sick? What if they had any one of 14,500 possible real life emergencies or situations that they did not have days before. Now obviously there are more walkovers then people that could happen to be sick, but the point is stuff comes up. Hopefully soon we will be using a bracket system that allows for check ins, but currently we are not. I don't think punishing for missing in a $200 weekly (even if it feeds into bigger things) is fair in any way and even more so since no weekly out there does it. I'm not getting in the business of punishing players for everything possible. I only want to punish in rare scenarios (CoCa/Byun) and in others I work with the players to try and help them understand why they should do things like this. For example in a recent weekly two same team players were going to have one forfeit because they did not want to play a teammate. I pulled them aside and explained in particular since CoCa/Byun that NA fans would frown upon this and did not like. When explained this, they said "no problem" and played the series (played it out 100% too, great series at that) and now they understand why not to do that in the future. Let's not jump on punishing everyone for everything, it's just p[art of the growing phase. I think Shinta, like all of us are just really surprised as to the consistent, or even growing number of players who drop every week. It feels like every time there is a weekly, there are going to be close to 10 people dropping. Which is quite strange if you factor in the fact that this prize money/fame does mean A LOT to koreans. btw: you should ask day9 if he wants to cast. | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On January 15 2012 15:14 Mr Showtime wrote: How exactly did desrow get into this? Honest question. He stands out a bit amongst this company. He asked and he is a notable foreigner living in Korea training at the GOM house. Like 90% of foreigners that go to Korea dodge this tournament like the plague despite wanting to go to Korea to "play the best". DesRow is actually making an effort to do so and I commend him for it. Only 5 foreigners I can think of have not heavily dodged it are QXC, DesRow, MorroW, HuK, and Jinro. They deserve some respect, where most others make claims like "it's too hard" or just end up playing one and never again. It is a hard tournament, but those are the ones making good on the "I want to play the best" statement. On January 15 2012 15:18 OnFiRe888 wrote: I think Shinta, like all of us are just really surprised as to the consistent, or even growing number of players who drop every week. It feels like every time there is a weekly, there are going to be close to 10 people dropping. Which is quite strange if you factor in the fact that this prize money/fame does mean A LOT to koreans. btw: you should ask day9 if he wants to cast. Take any major weekly tournament with a check in system, count the players signed up and the ones that end up in the tournament after check in. Said % will very likely higher then this tournament, the system is just set up to not show it. | ||
Bryn
Canada4 Posts
This is part of the reason as to why I have so much respect for Jinro. He never takes the easy way out and doesn't want things handed to him (i.e. Code A spot last year). He really is committed to playing the best and earning everything that he gets. <3 Jinro | ||
AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
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hyperknight
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what. the. fuck. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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milesfacade
United Kingdom799 Posts
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
On January 15 2012 18:22 milesfacade wrote: Oh wow, this is going to be great. Shame the times are still bad for EU, but I guess they're always going to be bad for somebody. Yeah but Twitchtv VODs are really great, they are usually up a few hours after the broadcast so no reason anyone should miss out ![]() I can't wait for this, been getting withdrawals ^^ Love the player list, lets go Sting and Hack do something while waiting to qualify for GSL :D | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On January 15 2012 18:38 Baffels wrote: Yeah but Twitchtv VODs are really great, they are usually up a few hours after the broadcast so no reason anyone should miss out ![]() I can't wait for this, been getting withdrawals ^^ Love the player list, lets go Sting and Hack do something while waiting to qualify for GSL :D That and also they will be all split up over on twitchvods.com. We will be also having a French rebroadcast on EU hours, going to see how it works out ![]() | ||
Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On January 14 2012 19:46 Diamond wrote: The Korean Weekly Season 2 Week 1 may be the single most stacked online tournament ever, if not easily Top 3. OMG this player list is absurd! You weren't lying, were you. Bloody hell, the amount of top players. O.o Brackets are up on liquipedia, with a new Navbox. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly/Season_2/Weekly_1 If there's any to add or correct, feel free to reply here or on the Talk page. | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On January 15 2012 19:04 Caesarion wrote: You weren't lying, were you. Bloody hell, the amount of top players. O.o Brackets are up on liquipedia, with a new Navbox. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly/Season_2/Weekly_1 If there's any to add or correct, feel free to reply here or on the Talk page. Rd of 128 completely missing 0_O | ||
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