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kilburn
Profile Joined August 2011
Spain8 Posts
January 10 2012 08:39 GMT
#141
I am very sad when reading all those pretty mean comments about TLO after this showmatch, because I honestly think he doesn't deserve them at all.

Don't get me wrong, TLO didn't play the best of his games, and he does not look totally adapted after switching to Zerg yet. However, the real reason why he lost so badly is because White-ra totally kicks ass in PvZ lately. Remember, Nerchio lost 4-0 to White-ra last week, and then moved on to win Socke and HerO (!) in HSC4.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
January 10 2012 09:04 GMT
#142
On January 10 2012 16:09 True_Spike wrote:
The only thing I find surprising is that TLO actually won a single game. I really like the guy, but the truth is he has been playing oh so bad for the past few months. He always relied on gimmicky builds to carry him through, but that only worked early on.


He's not exactly playing bad, but there's a noticable gap in performance, thats true. But I wouldn't say that he has relied on gimmicky builds - even when playing random, even when playing creative, there was always a sense of stability to his play that's missing now. But considering his long break due to health concerns and his indecisiveness as to which race to play, this is no surprise.

As long as he's having fun playing and representing TL, though, all's fine.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 09:26:45
January 10 2012 09:26 GMT
#143
On January 10 2012 16:09 True_Spike wrote:
The only thing I find surprising is that TLO actually won a single game. I really like the guy, but the truth is he has been playing oh so bad for the past few months. He always relied on gimmicky builds to carry him through, but that only worked early on.

Comments like this are very ignorant. TLO and WhiteRa were playing Bo5 showmatches on their stream regularly like 2 weeks ago and at some point the score (adding all played Bo5 games) reportedly was something like 33-33. The only thing to say here is of course that this was played on stream for fun, while this was for $$$.

Anyway, TLO probably just had a bad day.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
January 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#144
replays? White ra dominating TLO!!!
Live and Let Die!
herrmus
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
January 10 2012 10:23 GMT
#145
are the replays available
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
January 10 2012 10:40 GMT
#146
Didn't Nerchio lose vs WhiteRa 4-0 not that long ago in showmatch aswell ? Do you call Nerchio a bad player ? I guess not, why this offense on TLO then ?

TLO ofcourse didn't played his best, but u gotta admit that WhiteRa's PvZ style with double stargate and pressure before that is really strong and well thought out.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
January 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#147
Keep fighting TLO, put your eyes in Jinro!

GG
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InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
January 10 2012 11:24 GMT
#148
interesting builds by both
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Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 12:04:13
January 10 2012 12:03 GMT
#149
On January 10 2012 19:40 Sakkreth wrote:
Didn't Nerchio lose vs WhiteRa 4-0 not that long ago in showmatch aswell ?


Yup, last week. None of the games were close. White-Ra's PvZ has become absolutely insane. Maybe because of all his practice against TLO...

As soon as TLO fights a non-WhiteRa toss he'll realize his ZvP is a lot better than he thought.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
January 10 2012 12:09 GMT
#150
i am sad for whitera because his pvz is doing so amazingly atm but hes not in any super huge tournaments to really show it off to the masses while earning major $ lol
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Giantt
Profile Joined December 2010
Bulgaria82 Posts
January 10 2012 12:48 GMT
#151
WhiteRa played very good but that is no reason to bash on TLO - he can also play spectacular if he is given some margins.
In my opinion TLO did one major mistake that set him in uncomfortable spot on most of the maps and allowed WhiteRa to dictate the game - he researched +1 Carapace that finished always at least 60(to 100) seconds after the 4wg pressure with +1 zealots had passed.
Dr_Hummel
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1 Post
January 10 2012 12:55 GMT
#152
can we see the VOD's somewhere? didn't have time yesterday (
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
January 10 2012 13:11 GMT
#153
whitera is bonjwa, whenever he loses it's because he let the other guy win...

his cover would be blown if he won 100% of the time.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
January 10 2012 13:26 GMT
#154
TLO dissapointed me.
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kilburn
Profile Joined August 2011
Spain8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:34:53
January 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#155
White-ra's first person view of the matches start at 1:47:15 here.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:45:18
January 10 2012 13:45 GMT
#156
What was the result? I saw WhiteRa won some game with carriers. ^_^
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
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Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:12:43
January 10 2012 14:08 GMT
#157
On January 10 2012 22:45 eYeball wrote:
What was the result? I saw WhiteRa won some game with carriers. ^_^


One of the game was indeed mass-carrier where TLO responded with hydras which were just melting. Almost all other games though, White-Ra went with what I would say is now his standard PvZ: He FFEs and looks for a fast 3rd zerg base. He pressures the 3rd hard with zealots followed by several voidrays that hit the least defended base. If that doesn't outright wins him the game it still buys plenty of time to set up a third then he makes a colossus death ball with stalker and mothership support.

it ended 6-1 in favor of The Beast.
Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
January 10 2012 15:58 GMT
#158
White Ra is arguably one of the best Protoss in Europe. For someone like TLO, whos switched race a few times, its going to be damn hard to win. He pretty sure with a few months of practice he'll definatly be on the same level.
neeb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States367 Posts
January 10 2012 20:09 GMT
#159
Results:
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Game 1 - Shattered Temple: White-Ra > Liquid`TLO

Game 2 - Metalopolis: White-Ra > Liquid`TLO

Game 3 - Tal'Darim Altar: White-Ra > Liquid`TLO

Game 4 - Shakuras Plateau: White-Ra > Liquid`TLO

Game 5 -Antiga Shipyard: White-Ra > Liquid`TLO

Game 6 - Terminus SE: White-Ra < Liquid`TLO

Game 7 - Daybreak: White-Ra > Liquid`TLO

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BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 20:18:42
January 10 2012 20:18 GMT
#160
On January 07 2012 12:16 claash wrote:
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