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Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
December 07 2011 10:10 GMT
#841
My streams behind by about a minute or two, but overall working wonderfully.
I post only when my brain works.
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
December 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#842
Do you think Gom licenses the music they use?
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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
December 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#843
On December 07 2011 19:10 IndridCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:42 hasuterrans wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:38 tztztz wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote:
What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do.


Build order loss, plain and simple.


no, it was not a build order loss


Taken from Liquipedia:

Build Order Win or Build Order Loss:
When a player wins or loses not from skill or strategy but from a build order which hard counters the opponent's build order.

Do I really need to explain what keen did in those two games to hard counter Huk's opening? Are you really going to argue this? lolol


Note that it says "not from skill or strategy" which Keen obviously used by reacting appropriately to the nexus first

edit: are you trolling?
so huk was trying to build order win with no skill or strategy and it back fired because keen saw it coming and reacted to it by killing huk (which was not all that hard considering how greedy he was)

i like huk one of my favorite players, but he didn't get all-in'd in those games, he got beat for being greedy. 1 base against a nexus first is not an all in just cause its 1 base.... he saw his opening to WIN a game, he didn't go into those games with that plan.

I cant believe people are still arguing about this...
John 15:13
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#844
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10

I don't get the reference =/
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#845
On December 07 2011 19:07 WaSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:02 WaSa wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:58 TheBB wrote:
We're not quite out of the Terran code S domination yet, but it's looking better by a long shot.

Code S

P: Oz, Puzzle, Brown, Parting, MC (5)

T: MMA, Jjakji, Alive, MVP, Keen, Happy, Fin, Ganzi, Gumiho/Supernova, Boxer/MKP (10)

Z: Leenock, Nestea, DRG, Curious (4)

Up/down

P: Hero, Alicia, Tassadar, Genius, JYP, Inca, Squirtle, Huk, Killer (9)

T: Ryung, Clide, Polt, Nada, Virus, Asd, Bomber, Taeja, Gumiho/Supernova, Boxer/MKP (10)

Z: Yugioh, Luvsic, Monster, Zenio, Losira, Cezanne, July, Lucky, Coca (9)

In addition, two unknown players.

Expected code S distribution: 8 P, 14 T, 7 Z


All of those terrans in up/down deserve code A.


Polt, Nada, asd, Ryung and Taeja are all still Code S level and will prove it in the up and downs.

By comparison the only players from the other races that in my opinion REALLY deserve Code S are Coca, LosirA, Zenio, Huk and Killer.


wait wait, asd?!?!?
you're insane. He's the most mediocre of all terrans and really never belonged in code S. Ryung is a TvT one trick pony and doesn't deserve to be in code S. Nada, ok fanboyism....Polt overrated but I guess he's good enough for code S.


asd is probably going to be one of many players that are going to be in and out of Code S and Code A all the time with the new format. But don't underrate asd, FXO used to rate him as their best player (words from the mouth of players like Leenock), but he hasn't gotten the results.

Ryung is great at TvT, but his TvZ ain't too shabby.

Nada has been one of the most consistent terrans in GSL.

Polt underrated (except from Fionn).

I'd love to see your list of 32 Code S players if you think none of these would make it. Sure, they aren't MVP, MMA or Jjakji, but that's only 3 terrans of 32 players. By your esteemed rating system, I guess your Code S is a Ro8 or maybe (just maybe) a Ro16? No really, list me the perfect Code S for you, I'd actually be curious if you can put up 32 players without a "mediocre" player slipping through the cracks.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#846
On December 07 2011 19:11 rUiNati0n wrote:
Do you think Gom licenses the music they use?


GOMTV is an actual television broadcasting station, of course they do.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
December 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#847
Time to close the LR thread and watch the best games of the night with no distractions. Heart says both, brain says MKP.
#TeamBuLba
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#848
On December 07 2011 19:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10

I don't get the reference =/




Last clip of the chess game ;D
chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
December 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#849
On December 07 2011 19:10 IndridCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:42 hasuterrans wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:38 tztztz wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote:
What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do.


Build order loss, plain and simple.


no, it was not a build order loss


Taken from Liquipedia:

Build Order Win or Build Order Loss:
When a player wins or loses not from skill or strategy but from a build order which hard counters the opponent's build order.

Do I really need to explain what keen did in those two games to hard counter Huk's opening? Are you really going to argue this? lolol


Note that it says "not from skill or strategy" which Keen obviously used by reacting appropriately to the nexus first

edit: are you trolling?
so huk was trying to build order win with no skill or strategy and it back fired because keen saw it coming and reacted to it by killing huk (which was not all that hard considering how greedy he was)

i like huk one of my favorite players, but he didn't get all-in'd in those games, he got beat for being greedy. 1 base against a nexus first is not an all in just cause its 1 base.... he saw his opening to WIN a game, he didn't go into those games with that plan.


What? That's his point..
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Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
December 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#850
On December 07 2011 19:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10

I don't get the reference =/

That's because you're terran
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 07 2011 10:12 GMT
#851
On December 07 2011 19:10 Reaper9 wrote:
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37085 Posts
December 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#852
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10


I don't get it. What does "Jävla" mean?
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Where dat snitch at?37085 Posts
December 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#853
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Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
December 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#854
LETS GO FOXERRR
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
December 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#855
On December 07 2011 19:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:07 WaSa wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:02 WaSa wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:58 TheBB wrote:
We're not quite out of the Terran code S domination yet, but it's looking better by a long shot.

Code S

P: Oz, Puzzle, Brown, Parting, MC (5)

T: MMA, Jjakji, Alive, MVP, Keen, Happy, Fin, Ganzi, Gumiho/Supernova, Boxer/MKP (10)

Z: Leenock, Nestea, DRG, Curious (4)

Up/down

P: Hero, Alicia, Tassadar, Genius, JYP, Inca, Squirtle, Huk, Killer (9)

T: Ryung, Clide, Polt, Nada, Virus, Asd, Bomber, Taeja, Gumiho/Supernova, Boxer/MKP (10)

Z: Yugioh, Luvsic, Monster, Zenio, Losira, Cezanne, July, Lucky, Coca (9)

In addition, two unknown players.

Expected code S distribution: 8 P, 14 T, 7 Z


All of those terrans in up/down deserve code A.


Polt, Nada, asd, Ryung and Taeja are all still Code S level and will prove it in the up and downs.

By comparison the only players from the other races that in my opinion REALLY deserve Code S are Coca, LosirA, Zenio, Huk and Killer.


wait wait, asd?!?!?
you're insane. He's the most mediocre of all terrans and really never belonged in code S. Ryung is a TvT one trick pony and doesn't deserve to be in code S. Nada, ok fanboyism....Polt overrated but I guess he's good enough for code S.


asd is one of the most underrated Terrans in the GSL. Ryung has decent TvZ and spectacular TvT, his TvP is his only weak point, Nada is still solid but is in a slight slump and the only reason Polt isn't already in Code S right now is because he had the misfortune of being paired against ForGG who is just roflstomping everyone right now.


No, asd is not underrated, he's correctly rated, that is subpar code S level. Ryung has forgettable TvZ and shitty TvP, if he make code S, he'll be stomped back into up/down again. That's the thing, squashing out players that can't stay in code S consistently for several seasons. There are more talented players than ryung and asd and deserves to get a shot in code S.

Asd/ryung tried and failed. GET OUT!!!
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
December 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#856
On December 07 2011 19:13 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10


I don't get it. What does "Jävla" mean?

Fucking
John 15:13
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#857
On December 07 2011 19:13 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10


I don't get it. What does "Jävla" mean?


It's like a swedish word for "damn" iirc, maybe even somewhat more rude then "damn".
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#858
On December 07 2011 19:13 Frazzlehoon wrote:
LETS GO FOXERRR



Its time for the Student to become the Master.....Lets go MKP, lets prove Youth > Older Generation
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rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
December 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#859
On December 07 2011 19:11 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:11 rUiNati0n wrote:
Do you think Gom licenses the music they use?


GOMTV is an actual television broadcasting station, of course they do.

I was just thinking about how expesive the star wars theme probably is, but maybe they have some way to use it in commercials? idk NASL just got me thinking of these things...
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terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
December 07 2011 10:14 GMT
#860
On December 07 2011 19:13 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 19:10 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:09 Asha` wrote:
On December 07 2011 19:08 Tsubbi wrote:
could anyone lipread and translate what was the very angry thing gumiho just said? :D


"Jävla Terran"

HAHAHAHA 10/10


I don't get it. What does "Jävla" mean?


If I'm not being super mistaken, doesn't it mean damned in swedish D
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