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1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
December 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#981
On December 05 2011 20:32 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:31 double620 wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 firehand101 wrote:
No ceremony? what is wrong with him today


Bomber is his friend.


To be fair, he celebrated beating Jinro and Huk as well, and they're good friends too


Bomber is scary :D
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
December 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#982
On December 05 2011 20:32 spacemonkeyy wrote:
MC attracts so much hate, his macro style is fine he knows how to hit timings; he is greedy. As long as it is not coin flip he can do what he likes IMO. I rarely see MC blind all in...

He is like the opposite of idra- unpredictable and sometimes its hard to know when his attack is going to come which forces people to be honest.

Definitely agree, imo MC is the july of protoss
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#983
On December 05 2011 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:29 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:27 Medrea wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:26 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully th.is one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


Welcome to the world of protoss in which we have to prepare for the 1-1-1 im glad you now know the pain... you have begun to understand


I'm being quite benevolent in my wording but yes, being on the other end of a 1-1-1 is worse than the other end of an immortal bust
Not quite. You can tell your opponent 10 seconds into the game you are going to 1-1-1 and even the best protoss can't stop it.



And you can transition out of an immortal bust into a colossus based army but what can you transition out of a 1-1-1 from? 1-1-1 is completely all in and the terran has to do serious serious damage to win.


no no no... really? if you lose that army you pretty much lost... it is all-in, you can't transition... just sayn...you'll be too far behind. 1-1-1 has around 3 rounds of scv pulling to stop. What is your argument sir?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#984
On December 05 2011 20:31 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:29 KristofferAG wrote:
(P)Brown versus (Z)LosirA
0 <Bo3> 0

Maps
Set 1
Daybreak

Set 2
Dual Sight

Set 3
Crossfire SE 1.1



0.00
SlayerS_Brown is spawning as the red protoss in the bottom left position.
IM_LosirA is spawning as the blue zerg in the top right position.


4.00
LosirA goes for a really early pool against Brown's Forge FE. Four zerglings are on the way across the map, but it looks like the cannon will finish up first. Nexus just now placed down, after cannon and forge.

LosirA also gets his own hatch, a bit later than Brown's Nexus.

8.00
Brown gets his cybernetics core, LosirA's expansion finishes up. Immediately goes for a third base as well.

Warp Gate tech has stared, first gas being taken by LosirA. A Stargate in production for Brown.

Evo chamber coming in for LosirA as Brown takes two more gas. Void ray in production first, as ling speed is started.

Brown adding on two gateways to support his stargate, LosirA gets a Roach Warren.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#985
On December 05 2011 20:31 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:26 StarscreamG1 wrote:
MC gets behind because of 2 rax pressure, needs to respond with a push -> All-in
99% Terrans timing push against second zerg expo -> Very smart push

WTF??!!!

MC was all-in. He was was behind in both tech and economy and stopped making probes.

No reason to not call a shovel a shovel.


MC had robo out early. Thus the immortals.
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double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#986
On December 05 2011 20:21 Maekju wrote:
That was as beautiful as a 1/1/1 build.



When a terran tried to cheese you 2 games, he deserved to get all in.
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#987
On December 05 2011 20:30 unSpeake wrote:
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On December 05 2011 20:29 Grampz wrote:
LOL IMBrown...fuck u moletrap thats cash


seriously... moletrapp so slow


moletrap is the worst caster of all time, i'm so sad that doa left, cause now the chances of him staying are higher.
jesus christ he makes the worst jokes that anyone could possibly think of, and on the top of that his analysis of the game is 95% of the time off.
it would be amazing if you could mute only one caster :D
i have no idea how gom could hire him again when his contract expires
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#988
On December 05 2011 20:31 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:26 StarscreamG1 wrote:
MC gets behind because of 2 rax pressure, needs to respond with a push -> All-in
99% Terrans timing push against second zerg expo -> Very smart push

WTF??!!!

MC was all-in. He was was behind in both tech and economy and stopped making probes.

No reason to not call a shovel a shovel.


Oh no, he is attacking, it's an all-in!
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#989
On December 05 2011 20:33 Seeker wrote:
MC hate reminds me of PuMa hate

No matter what PuMa does, it's title "gay"

No matter what MC does, it's titled "gay"

no it's different coz puma is terran. do u see mc pulling half his probes to atk?

*disclaimer* i'm a puma hater. haters gonna hate
Korean overlords
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 05 2011 11:35 GMT
#990
God sake guys...there's another game going on

Drop it
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Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
December 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#991
On December 05 2011 20:34 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:29 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:27 Medrea wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:26 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully th.is one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


Welcome to the world of protoss in which we have to prepare for the 1-1-1 im glad you now know the pain... you have begun to understand


I'm being quite benevolent in my wording but yes, being on the other end of a 1-1-1 is worse than the other end of an immortal bust
Not quite. You can tell your opponent 10 seconds into the game you are going to 1-1-1 and even the best protoss can't stop it.



And you can transition out of an immortal bust into a colossus based army but what can you transition out of a 1-1-1 from? 1-1-1 is completely all in and the terran has to do serious serious damage to win.


no no no... really? if you lose that army you pretty much lost... it is all-in, you can't transition... just sayn...you'll be too far behind. 1-1-1 has around 3 rounds of scv pulling to stop. What is your argument sir?


I don't even get what this argument is about any more, but is there ANY build in SC2 that doesn't lose the game if you lose your entire army without doing damage? :s
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37072 Posts
December 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#992
On December 05 2011 20:34 deathzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:33 Seeker wrote:
MC hate reminds me of PuMa hate

No matter what PuMa does, it's title "gay"

No matter what MC does, it's titled "gay"

no it's different coz puma is terran. do u see mc pulling half his probes to atk?

*disclaimer* i'm a puma hater. haters gonna hate


MC doesn't pull probes because probes don't really do jack against Terran units.

Terran scvs can reapair, build bunkers, and serve as blockade
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Perfecto
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines156 Posts
December 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#993
On December 05 2011 20:28 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:23 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully this one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


...it wasn't a 6-gate all in....


thats why I said "6 gate-ish": an all-in attack on 2 base with lots of sentries to forcefield off the bunkers. doesnt really matter if its 6 gates or 5 gates and 1 robo, the principle of the attack remains the same.

and please also note that I am not balance whining. Im not saying terran cant hold these because they can. but its still astonishing to me that bomber would have had to start teching to the exact thing he needs right after his push failed to have a chance of holding this attack that might or might not come several minutes later. its not unfair or imbalanced, but its dicey and dull in my eyes.



In short, MC is not supposed to win, is not supposed to try to win. Darn him for ruining your perfect Terran script. We get it. Now have some kleenex....
He drone drone drone. I All in I win.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#994
On December 05 2011 20:33 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:31 Vorenius wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:26 StarscreamG1 wrote:
MC gets behind because of 2 rax pressure, needs to respond with a push -> All-in
99% Terrans timing push against second zerg expo -> Very smart push

WTF??!!!

MC was all-in. He was was behind in both tech and economy and stopped making probes.

No reason to not call a shovel a shovel.


He is only all-in if his whole army dies. He could have just made Bomber lift off his 2nd and they would have been even again.

Of course he is all-in when he makes a huge attack while being on roughly half the eco of his opponent and has expanded way later and lost a lot of gas-units early on...

Seriously, what is it with people being too scared of the word 'all-in'. It won't bite you.
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
December 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#995
On December 05 2011 20:34 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:29 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:27 Medrea wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:26 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully th.is one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


Welcome to the world of protoss in which we have to prepare for the 1-1-1 im glad you now know the pain... you have begun to understand


I'm being quite benevolent in my wording but yes, being on the other end of a 1-1-1 is worse than the other end of an immortal bust
Not quite. You can tell your opponent 10 seconds into the game you are going to 1-1-1 and even the best protoss can't stop it.



And you can transition out of an immortal bust into a colossus based army but what can you transition out of a 1-1-1 from? 1-1-1 is completely all in and the terran has to do serious serious damage to win.


no no no... really? if you lose that army you pretty much lost... it is all-in, you can't transition... just sayn...you'll be too far behind. 1-1-1 has around 3 rounds of scv pulling to stop. What is your argument sir?


don't get what you are saying at first. It's an all-in because if you lose your army you are dead? then you are always all-in when you leave the base?

I'm not saying it wasn't an all-in, I just don't get what you are trying to say
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#996
On December 05 2011 20:34 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:31 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:29 KristofferAG wrote:
(P)Brown versus (Z)LosirA
0 <Bo3> 0

Maps
Set 1
Daybreak

Set 2
Dual Sight

Set 3
Crossfire SE 1.1



0.00
SlayerS_Brown is spawning as the red protoss in the bottom left position.
IM_LosirA is spawning as the blue zerg in the top right position.


4.00
LosirA goes for a really early pool against Brown's Forge FE. Four zerglings are on the way across the map, but it looks like the cannon will finish up first. Nexus just now placed down, after cannon and forge.

LosirA also gets his own hatch, a bit later than Brown's Nexus.

8.00
Brown gets his cybernetics core, LosirA's expansion finishes up. Immediately goes for a third base as well.

Warp Gate tech has stared, first gas being taken by LosirA. A Stargate in production for Brown.

Evo chamber coming in for LosirA as Brown takes two more gas. Void ray in production first, as ling speed is started.

Brown adding on two gateways to support his stargate, LosirA gets a Roach Warren.

12.00
Three spore crawlers being placed down as Lair tech is started. A phoenix is also out for Brown now, cleaning up some overlords around the base. +1 attack coming in for Brown as a good amount of Roaches are being produced. A couple spine crawlers also placed down.

+1 melee attack and roach speed coming in for LosirA now. Some zealots trying to put on pressure, but a few roaches will clean it up.

Brown taking a third of his own. Infestation Pit is done for LosirA, getting Pathogen Glands. Robotics Bay on the way for Brown, thermal lance and armor upgrades coming in.

Spire for LosirA coming in, as is Burrow and overlord speed.

Twilight Council has been placed down for Brown.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
December 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#997
On December 05 2011 20:36 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:34 deathzz wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:33 Seeker wrote:
MC hate reminds me of PuMa hate

No matter what PuMa does, it's title "gay"

No matter what MC does, it's titled "gay"

no it's different coz puma is terran. do u see mc pulling half his probes to atk?

*disclaimer* i'm a puma hater. haters gonna hate


MC doesn't pull probes because probes don't really do jack against Terran units.

Terran scvs can reapair, build bunkers, and serve as blockade

so can i start qq-ing abt terran lol. wadever everyone will have their fav n hated players. losira hwaiting!!
Korean overlords
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#998
This game is super weird. Both sides are happy to just let the other get all the tech they want...this feels really favoured for Losira
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#999
Brown pretty strong. I was about to post "I love how Brown is playing" just as Kaldor said "I don't like how Brown is playing" TT
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
December 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#1000
Don't know why Zerg would want to play deathball vs death ball
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