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Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#961
On December 05 2011 20:29 Grampz wrote:
LOL IMBrown...fuck u moletrap thats cash


seriously... moletrapp so slow
tQ.Speake
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#962
On December 05 2011 20:27 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:26 Juliette wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:24 Seeker wrote:
If I go 1/4 in liquibets today, I'm just gonna be super ticked off....

im 0/3...


^^

I can understand 2. But I can't understand how you would vote for Cezanne over Happy.


3/3 although MC was a "Ill go with my heart pick."
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#963
On December 05 2011 20:28 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:23 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully this one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


...it wasn't a 6-gate all in....


thats why I said "6 gate-ish": an all-in attack on 2 base with lots of sentries to forcefield off the bunkers. doesnt really matter if its 6 gates or 5 gates and 1 robo, the principle of the attack remains the same.

and please also note that I am not balance whining. Im not saying terran cant hold these because they can. but its still astonishing to me that bomber would have had to start teching to the exact thing he needs right after his push failed to have a chance of holding this attack that might or might not come several minutes later. its not unfair or imbalanced, but its dicey and dull in my eyes.


We don't really have "ish" builds in SC2
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#964
Why forge first when you can nexus first and delay the hatch with a probe TT
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#965
It's a TEN POOL. For god sake Khaldor...
fy12345
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada151 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#966
moletrap is a trash caster, khaldor cant even troll properly.

User was temp banned for this post.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#967
On December 05 2011 20:29 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:27 Medrea wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:26 itsjuspeter wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully th.is one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


Welcome to the world of protoss in which we have to prepare for the 1-1-1 im glad you now know the pain... you have begun to understand


I'm being quite benevolent in my wording but yes, being on the other end of a 1-1-1 is worse than the other end of an immortal bust
Not quite. You can tell your opponent 10 seconds into the game you are going to 1-1-1 and even the best protoss can't stop it.



And you can transition out of an immortal bust into a colossus based army but what can you transition out of a 1-1-1 from? 1-1-1 is completely all in and the terran has to do serious serious damage to win.
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#968
Winsira.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#969
On December 05 2011 20:27 Focuspants wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully this one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


Ok, so game 1, he went from nexus first, to double forge upgrades, to archons, to HT's, to double robo collosi, to a storm drop with a warp prism with speed. Then game 2 he 1 gate FE's gets proxy rax rauder rushed, barely survives, BUILDS A ROBO while he was being almost taken out, then scouts how far behind he is, and decides to bust Bomber with 3 gate robo immortal/sentry push.

Do you even have eyes?


He had his fourth and fifth gates going up when he moved out, assuming they finished, but yeah, 5 gate / robo. Point is that Black Gun isn't making any sense.

Bomber proxy raxed and went early marauder w/ concussive shell, MC -BARELY- held, did a brilliant job of it, and turned around and killed Bomber. That seems pretty fair to me -- your early timing attack / rush / whatever you want to call it fails to kill your opponent, you get punished.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
December 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#970
ok Losira, you go win this and we will have a nice 4/4 today!
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double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#971
On December 05 2011 20:18 firehand101 wrote:
No ceremony? what is wrong with him today


Bomber is his friend.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#972
On December 05 2011 20:29 KristofferAG wrote:
(P)Brown versus (Z)LosirA
0 <Bo3> 0

Maps
Set 1
Daybreak

Set 2
Dual Sight

Set 3
Crossfire SE 1.1



0.00
SlayerS_Brown is spawning as the red protoss in the bottom left position.
IM_LosirA is spawning as the blue zerg in the top right position.


4.00
LosirA goes for a really early pool against Brown's Forge FE. Four zerglings are on the way across the map, but it looks like the cannon will finish up first. Nexus just now placed down, after cannon and forge.

LosirA also gets his own hatch, a bit later than Brown's Nexus.
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#973
On December 05 2011 20:26 StarscreamG1 wrote:
MC gets behind because of 2 rax pressure, needs to respond with a push -> All-in
99% Terrans timing push against second zerg expo -> Very smart push

WTF??!!!

MC was all-in. He was was behind in both tech and economy and stopped making probes.

No reason to not call a shovel a shovel.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
December 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#974
On December 05 2011 20:30 StarscreamG1 wrote:
It's a TEN POOL. For god sake Khaldor...


Take a chill pill buddy. It ain't a big mistake.
cosmo.6792
Profile Joined September 2010
161 Posts
December 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#975
On December 05 2011 20:22 Rebs wrote:
Having an expansion and mining doesnt mean its not all in. Hed cut probes and if that had been defended MC was as good as dead. It was an all in but it was the perfect decision.


No.

Cutting probes doesn't mean it's an all-in. All MC needed to do with cause enough damage to justify the pause in probe production. For example, Bomber could've held off the attack but still lose many SCVs to keep his bunkers up. That would've allowed MC to catch up with Bomber's economy.

Honestly, I am getting totally SICK of people throwing around the term "All-In" whenever games aren't being played uber-macro.
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
December 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#976
MC attracts so much hate, his macro style is fine he knows how to hit timings; he is greedy. As long as it is not coin flip he can do what he likes IMO. I rarely see MC blind all in...

He is like the opposite of idra- unpredictable and sometimes its hard to know when his attack is going to come which forces people to be honest.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#977
On December 05 2011 20:31 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:18 firehand101 wrote:
No ceremony? what is wrong with him today


Bomber is his friend.


To be fair, he celebrated beating Jinro and Huk as well, and they're good friends too
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Focuspants
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada780 Posts
December 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#978
On December 05 2011 20:30 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:27 Focuspants wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:21 Black Gun wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:18 Odal wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:17 Black Gun wrote:
SDJFGIOSENRGILSDJGSDFJBGSBLJK


f*** this shit. words cant describe how angry this game made me. i absolutely hate mc`s playstyle. hopefully this one build abuser will get eliminated in the next round/next season. -.-



Uh.. I don't see how doing a build that would win you the game is a bad thing. And aren't you forgetting that Bomber opened the second game with a proxy rax?

its abuse when you do the same build over and over and over and over, like mc with his 6gate-ish all-ins. it maddens me how he can play so incredibly greedy, getting punished hard, barely surviving and then some few minutes later he comes back with an attack against which bomber had no chance of defending unless he had already started teching to the correct thing several minutes beforehand.


and yes, I did indeed not see game 1, I just tuned in. and guess what I see: MC doing a 6gate all-in. surprise surprise.


Ok, so game 1, he went from nexus first, to double forge upgrades, to archons, to HT's, to double robo collosi, to a storm drop with a warp prism with speed. Then game 2 he 1 gate FE's gets proxy rax rauder rushed, barely survives, BUILDS A ROBO while he was being almost taken out, then scouts how far behind he is, and decides to bust Bomber with 3 gate robo immortal/sentry push.

Do you even have eyes?


He had his fourth and fifth gates going up when he moved out, assuming they finished, but yeah, 5 gate / robo. Point is that Black Gun isn't making any sense.

Bomber proxy raxed and went early marauder w/ concussive shell, MC -BARELY- held, did a brilliant job of it, and turned around and killed Bomber. That seems pretty fair to me -- your early timing attack / rush / whatever you want to call it fails to kill your opponent, you get punished.


Exactly, not only that, but after watching that game, the sick micro, and insanely close timings should be what you leave that game thinking about, not some random whining about nothing. That was actually a very very close, relatively exciting game.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#979
On December 05 2011 20:31 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:26 StarscreamG1 wrote:
MC gets behind because of 2 rax pressure, needs to respond with a push -> All-in
99% Terrans timing push against second zerg expo -> Very smart push

WTF??!!!

MC was all-in. He was was behind in both tech and economy and stopped making probes.

No reason to not call a shovel a shovel.


He is only all-in if his whole army dies. He could have just made Bomber lift off his 2nd and they would have been even again.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:33:35
December 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#980
MC hate reminds me of PuMa hate

No matter what PuMa does, it's title "gay"

No matter what MC does, it's titled "gay"
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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