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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.
The same goes for the regular crowd of:
-Balance whiners -Stream whiners -Event and caster bashers -HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters
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On December 05 2011 15:04 supdubdup wrote: This music makes me think that they'll be more steaming. Is something about to happen!? Yes, very hot vegetables and fish are coming your way
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On December 05 2011 15:02 darkscream wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:00 Ruscour wrote:On December 05 2011 14:59 susySquark wrote: Protoss is so hard to watch... every single engagement is a rollover for one side or the other... theres never any back and forth. That's what feels broken game-design wise. Protoss is just so fragile...you either roll or get rolled. Not very fun because a single mistake decides the game either way  It's "balanced" because it can (and does) go either way but it just doesn't seem like good game design. lol this is not race specific. Zerg says the same thing about the zerg army. The fact is SC2 is just a very fast game where a few micro decisions make or break everything as your deathballs collide. So yes, I agree, doesn't feel like good game design.
Not really, ZvT you can kinda recover from, that's why most games are usually incredibly long.
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On December 05 2011 15:04 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote: would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament? What? I hope you are joking. GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway) + Show Spoiler +MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row. As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though. Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up. didn't someone win back to back mlgs?
No, but HuK recently won his second MLG, making him the first player to win two.
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On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote: would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament? What? I hope you are joking. GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway) + Show Spoiler +MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row. As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though. Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.
pretty sure he meant back to back champions when he said repeat champions. And since your not completly sure that there ever was one (but yea Nestea won back to back) hes question seem pretty valid
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On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote: would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament? What? I hope you are joking. GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway) + Show Spoiler +MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row. As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though. Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
People didn't take the Super Tournament seriously? That was for $100,000. That was easily the biggest tournament of 2011.
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On December 05 2011 15:00 MCMXVI wrote: Its appalling how good cloaked ghosts are against protoss. No balance whine, just saying what everyone is thinking!
They shouldn't have removed KA from templars by the looks of things. But it's also appalling how good colossi are vs everything that's made of ground unit, so...
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On December 05 2011 14:57 VirgilSC2 wrote: HerO really blew that last game, he waited WAY too long to engage.
Yea, seriously at one point he was up 3-2 to 1-1 in upgrades and within 5 supply of Puma, he could have won an engagement, secured his third, and won the game from there. Instead he let his base get canceled 3 times, waited till Puma's gold kicked in, waited till puma caught up in upgrades and made a million vikings/ghosts plus jumped up to a 20-30 supply lead :-/ Guess he thought he was more behind than he was and thought his only chance was to turtle till max supply, bad mistake.
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On December 05 2011 15:03 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:03 Angelbelow wrote:On December 05 2011 15:01 AlternativeEgo wrote: No ceremoni? I got ad spams during the interview and now overlay in between. Should be incoming. kthx  was about to shut down the stream.
Yeah me too, until I saw the NASL guy in the stream chat said that awards and "special stuff" are coming up so I left my stream on.
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On December 05 2011 14:59 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 14:55 nvs. wrote:On December 05 2011 14:55 Sc2ttyl wrote: THAT was beautiful. 99% of terrans woulda lost to that deathball. THANKYOU puma for showing us its possible to beat that! wut. >< It's the truth, only a few terrans manage chargealots backed up by hts + colossus so well, 3 different control groups to master despite the massive whine, it's far from easy, there's a reason foreign terrans don't win anything: they can't micro as well as puma/mvp/mkp/jjakji/polt.
You missed bomber, who has one of (i recall hearing he had THE best) TvP in the world (MLG sometime. Orlando?)
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On December 05 2011 15:04 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote: would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament? What? I hope you are joking. GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway) + Show Spoiler +MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row. As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though. Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up. didn't someone win back to back mlgs?
no huk is only person 2 hame 2 mlgs but they one+ year apart
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On December 05 2011 14:58 kazie wrote: man they really need to get better translators... always full of mistranslations or making up complete new bs puma says "i know it's very hard to win the same tournament 2 times so im speechless, but ill try hard and win the 3rd as well" translator says "it's NOT very hard to win nasl 2 times and ill win the 3rd as well." complete opposite I obviously don't speak korean but they way he seemed to generalize what they were saying to me the entire event i always felt like he was leaving stuff out... you just confirmed what i had been thinking.
While these guys are not professional translators I would think the event would do a little coaching on what they are wanting from them. They are there to translate what is being said not to summarize what is being said.
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On December 05 2011 15:03 chatuka wrote: Hero didn't want it badly enough.. that's what i think.. Puma looked like a Puma.. aggressive and relentless.
I didn't know Hero still has LOT's of work to do in the mental department. Oh well, gotta find a different hero to root for.
I wouldn't say that. Small mistakes and miscalculations could have easily helped him turn it around.
PuMa versus HerO is always pretty entertaining to watch because they do go back and forth a lot.
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Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote: would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament? What? I hope you are joking. GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway) + Show Spoiler +MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row. As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though. Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.
Throw up? -_-;; u okay man?
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On December 05 2011 15:02 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:00 Horse...falcon wrote:On December 05 2011 14:58 Lowell wrote:On December 05 2011 14:57 Shellshock1122 wrote: Puma may have lost the dreamhack finals but NASL was where the money was Actually dreamhack is 33k and nasl is 40k sooo.... ur point? Wait, what's your point? The difference in money is very little regardless. Both are majors. Well, I'm still not happy with how NASL handled the Korean situation and I definitely think more Koreans would have been in the top 16. Still a win is a win.
It really wasn't NASL's fault, that koreans didn't show up for NASL. Do some research!
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On December 05 2011 15:00 Mobius_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 14:57 0neder wrote: I'm disappointed that for Protoss it feels like Colossi/HTs are required in addition to an upgrade advantage to have a sporting chance vs bio/ghost/air. But Terran also feels like Ghost and Vikings are required in addition to an upgrade advantage to have a sporting chance vs Colossi/HTs. It's balanced. You can tell yourself that, but it doesn't make the games any more enjoyable with the current dynamics.
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The upside of Puma winning is that terran players can stop complaining that their race is underpowered because terrans haven't been winning tournaments.
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lol that is a "U mad" face
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I think PuMa won the last game because he contained HerO on 2 bases, so the warpgate reinforcement (chargelots and archons that Terrans hate to see) isn't as scary. Now the question is how to contain Protoss on the other maps?
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On December 05 2011 15:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote: would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament? What? I hope you are joking. GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway) + Show Spoiler +MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row. As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though. Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up. didn't someone win back to back mlgs? No, but HuK recently won his second MLG, making him the first player to win two.
do you work for EG? lol but keep posting.love it!
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