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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
December 05 2011 06:04 GMT
#4081
On December 05 2011 15:04 supdubdup wrote:
This music makes me think that they'll be more steaming. Is something about to happen!?

Yes, very hot vegetables and fish are coming your way
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
December 05 2011 06:04 GMT
#4082
On December 05 2011 15:02 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:00 Ruscour wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:59 susySquark wrote:
Protoss is so hard to watch... every single engagement is a rollover for one side or the other... theres never any back and forth.

That's what feels broken game-design wise. Protoss is just so fragile...you either roll or get rolled. Not very fun because a single mistake decides the game either way It's "balanced" because it can (and does) go either way but it just doesn't seem like good game design.


lol this is not race specific. Zerg says the same thing about the zerg army. The fact is SC2 is just a very fast game where a few micro decisions make or break everything as your deathballs collide.

So yes, I agree, doesn't feel like good game design.


Not really, ZvT you can kinda recover from, that's why most games are usually incredibly long.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45815 Posts
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4083
On December 05 2011 15:04 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament?

What? I hope you are joking.

GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway)
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row.

As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though.

Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.



didn't someone win back to back mlgs?


No, but HuK recently won his second MLG, making him the first player to win two.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4084
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament?

What? I hope you are joking.

GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway)
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row.

As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though.

Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.


pretty sure he meant back to back champions when he said repeat champions. And since your not completly sure that there ever was one (but yea Nestea won back to back) hes question seem pretty valid
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4085
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament?

What? I hope you are joking.

GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway)
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row.

As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though.

Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.


Wait, wait, wait, wait.

People didn't take the Super Tournament seriously? That was for $100,000. That was easily the biggest tournament of 2011.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4086
On December 05 2011 15:00 MCMXVI wrote:
Its appalling how good cloaked ghosts are against protoss. No balance whine, just saying what everyone is thinking!

They shouldn't have removed KA from templars by the looks of things.

But it's also appalling how good colossi are vs everything that's made of ground unit, so...
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 06:06:47
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4087
On December 05 2011 14:57 VirgilSC2 wrote:
HerO really blew that last game, he waited WAY too long to engage.


Yea, seriously at one point he was up 3-2 to 1-1 in upgrades and within 5 supply of Puma, he could have won an engagement, secured his third, and won the game from there. Instead he let his base get canceled 3 times, waited till Puma's gold kicked in, waited till puma caught up in upgrades and made a million vikings/ghosts plus jumped up to a 20-30 supply lead :-/ Guess he thought he was more behind than he was and thought his only chance was to turtle till max supply, bad mistake.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4088
On December 05 2011 15:03 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:03 Angelbelow wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
No ceremoni? I got ad spams during the interview and now overlay in between.



Should be incoming.


kthx was about to shut down the stream.


Yeah me too, until I saw the NASL guy in the stream chat said that awards and "special stuff" are coming up so I left my stream on.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
December 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#4089
On December 05 2011 14:59 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:55 nvs. wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:55 Sc2ttyl wrote:
THAT was beautiful. 99% of terrans woulda lost to that deathball. THANKYOU puma for showing us its possible to beat that!


wut. ><

It's the truth, only a few terrans manage chargealots backed up by hts + colossus so well, 3 different control groups to master despite the massive whine, it's far from easy, there's a reason foreign terrans don't win anything: they can't micro as well as puma/mvp/mkp/jjakji/polt.


You missed bomber, who has one of (i recall hearing he had THE best) TvP in the world (MLG sometime. Orlando?)
Inno pls...
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4090
On December 05 2011 15:04 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament?

What? I hope you are joking.

GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway)
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row.

As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though.

Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.



didn't someone win back to back mlgs?


no huk is only person 2 hame 2 mlgs but they one+ year apart
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4091
On December 05 2011 14:58 kazie wrote:
man they really need to get better translators... always full of mistranslations or making up complete new bs
puma says "i know it's very hard to win the same tournament 2 times so im speechless, but ill try hard and win the 3rd as well"
translator says "it's NOT very hard to win nasl 2 times and ill win the 3rd as well."
complete opposite

I obviously don't speak korean but they way he seemed to generalize what they were saying to me the entire event i always felt like he was leaving stuff out... you just confirmed what i had been thinking.

While these guys are not professional translators I would think the event would do a little coaching on what they are wanting from them. They are there to translate what is being said not to summarize what is being said.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4092
On December 05 2011 15:03 chatuka wrote:
Hero didn't want it badly enough.. that's what i think.. Puma looked like a Puma.. aggressive and relentless.

I didn't know Hero still has LOT's of work to do in the mental department. Oh well, gotta find a different hero to root for.


I wouldn't say that. Small mistakes and miscalculations could have easily helped him turn it around.

PuMa versus HerO is always pretty entertaining to watch because they do go back and forth a lot.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4093
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament?

What? I hope you are joking.

GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway)
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row.

As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though.

Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.


Throw up? -_-;; u okay man?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Caspas
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany157 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4094
On December 05 2011 15:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:00 Horse...falcon wrote:

On December 05 2011 14:58 Lowell wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puma may have lost the dreamhack finals but NASL was where the money was


Actually dreamhack is 33k and nasl is 40k sooo.... ur point?


Wait, what's your point?



The difference in money is very little regardless. Both are majors. Well, I'm still not happy with how NASL handled the Korean situation and I definitely think more Koreans would have been in the top 16. Still a win is a win.


It really wasn't NASL's fault, that koreans didn't show up for NASL. Do some research!
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4095
On December 05 2011 15:00 Mobius_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 0neder wrote:
I'm disappointed that for Protoss it feels like Colossi/HTs are required in addition to an upgrade advantage to have a sporting chance vs bio/ghost/air.


But Terran also feels like Ghost and Vikings are required in addition to an upgrade advantage to have a sporting chance vs Colossi/HTs.

It's balanced.

You can tell yourself that, but it doesn't make the games any more enjoyable with the current dynamics.
Crashburn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States476 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4096
The upside of Puma winning is that terran players can stop complaining that their race is underpowered because terrans haven't been winning tournaments.
markz4
Profile Joined March 2011
180 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4097
ghosts are way too beefy
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4098
lol that is a "U mad" face
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
December 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#4099
I think PuMa won the last game because he contained HerO on 2 bases, so the warpgate reinforcement (chargelots and archons that Terrans hate to see) isn't as scary. Now the question is how to contain Protoss on the other maps?
Deus Ex is awesome -- soundcloud.com/user9260191 -- soundclick.com/ekarinsm -- purevolume.com/ekarinsm
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
December 05 2011 06:07 GMT
#4100
On December 05 2011 15:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:04 Angel_ wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:56 ChaosTriggeR wrote:
would this make puma the first repeat champion of a major tournament?

What? I hope you are joking.

GSL SPOILERS BUT SERIOUSLY THIS IS VEEEERY OLD NEWS(going to spoiler anyway)
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP and Nestea has 3 (THREE) GSL titles, and MC has two. Pretty sure Nestea had 2 back-to-back GSL wins (since Super Tournament wasn't really a standard tourney and a lot of players didn't seem to take it all to seriously, but I guess that can be argued either way). MVP won the World Championships and a regular GSL season in a row.

As far as foreign tournaments go, you might be right, though.

Also, great work as usual, Seeker! Was nice being able to catch up to the action after going to the bathroom to throw up.



didn't someone win back to back mlgs?


No, but HuK recently won his second MLG, making him the first player to win two.


do you work for EG?
lol
but keep posting.love it!
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