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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
mlspmatt
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada404 Posts
December 05 2011 05:59 GMT
#4001
I didn't think Puma could beat Hero in macro games but he did. Sure he mixed in some agression builds but he played well in the macro games too. He was better today. Good series. Terran had a good weekend.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 06:00:12
December 05 2011 05:59 GMT
#4002
On December 05 2011 14:59 growl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:57 claash wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
mouz -- sup?


mouz is still better and will always win against EG in the clanwars
what counts is the majority of players
SUP

Mouz won all EG vs Mouz games other than Puma vs thorzain

Strelok vs IdrA?


He's on imbaFXO you silly goof.

seriously.
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4003
puma has the best t v p army control evar
gl hf gg
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4004
On December 05 2011 14:59 growl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 Hopelessnoob wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:57 claash wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
mouz -- sup?


mouz is still better and will always win against EG in the clanwars
what counts is the majority of players
SUP

Mouz won all EG vs Mouz games other than Puma vs thorzain

Strelok vs IdrA?


Strelok is Imba FXO, not Mouz lol
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4005
On December 05 2011 14:58 Lowell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puma may have lost the dreamhack finals but NASL was where the money was


Actually dreamhack is 29k and nasl is 40k sooo.... ur point?

....that Puma won more money in his last two confrontations with Hero despite losing dreamhack...seemed kind...obvious.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4006
So with all of that put together, PuMa has officially broken six digits this year in prize winnings. Grats PuMa!
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4007
another lackluster ending to a start of a good series. My question is, why all old versions of the maps?
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4008
Puma really learned from his mistakes at Dreamhack. Hopefully HerO can do the same after this series.
No relation to Monsieur J.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4009
Oh well 2nd place is still pretty awesome for Hero let's not forget. Puma and Hero are very equally matched players- the last game and the base race one could have gone either way. I'm happy it was a fairly close series and thinking this could be the start of a new classic rivalry.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4010
On December 05 2011 14:57 0neder wrote:
I'm disappointed that for Protoss it feels like Colossi/HTs are required in addition to an upgrade advantage to have a sporting chance vs bio/ghost/air.


But Terran also feels like Ghost and Vikings are required in addition to an upgrade advantage to have a sporting chance vs Colossi/HTs.

It's balanced.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4011
almost everyone of those games was a build order win (or win after scouting the proxy). tvp is so ridiculously boring....
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4012
On December 05 2011 14:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 claash wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
mouz -- sup?


mouz is still better and will always win against EG in the clanwars
what counts is the majority of players
SUP


LOL better when it doesn't come to winning money?

Don't put down the winners.


no for winning the clanleague all the time lol
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4013
Why would people think that finals was terrible, just because HerO didn't win?

It wasn't quite as epic as Dreamhack, but they were great finals.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4014
On December 05 2011 14:59 susySquark wrote:
Protoss is so hard to watch... every single engagement is a rollover for one side or the other... theres never any back and forth.


Yeah, badly designed race imo :/
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4015
Puma should go to the next GSL qualifier and finally get himself into GSL.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4016
On December 05 2011 14:59 susySquark wrote:
Protoss is so hard to watch... every single engagement is a rollover for one side or the other... theres never any back and forth.

That's what feels broken game-design wise. Protoss is just so fragile...you either roll or get rolled. Not very fun because a single mistake decides the game either way It's "balanced" because it can (and does) go either way but it just doesn't seem like good game design.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4017

On December 05 2011 14:58 Lowell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puma may have lost the dreamhack finals but NASL was where the money was


Actually dreamhack is 33k and nasl is 40k sooo.... ur point?


Wait, what's your point?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4018
I'm honestly not surprised by this result... I kinda saw it coming. I just didn't think that Hero could have conquered his nerves that well and Puma just seems like someone who is a very rock-steady player. Hero... he could be one of the better players in the world, but I think his nerves get to him too much. Kind of like Naniwa.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4019
On December 05 2011 14:59 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:57 growl wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:55 MuseMike wrote:
Puma wins 1 game where he doesn't play off 2 bases. Can't wait til brood war pros switch over and make sure he doesn't make it out of qualifiers.

You do realize that puma was one of the better BW pros to switch right?... and that Artosis said a couple years back that Puma was one of the most highly demanded practice partners in Korea.

Artosis had massive eSTRO bias though, take that with a grain of salt

Lol still, if you're comparing BW histories, Puma was a MUCH better player than Hero was, so I don't really understand what he was trying to get at.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
December 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#4020
On December 05 2011 14:57 yawnoC wrote:
Thanks for the 90k USD NASL ~ Sincerely PUMA
He said he's coming back for a 3rd championship. NASL's pretty much Puma's Sugarmomma
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