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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
December 04 2011 20:02 GMT
#241
HoN is playing right now, third place match is underway.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 04 2011 20:03 GMT
#242
Gogo HerO / Sen!
:)
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
December 04 2011 20:03 GMT
#243
On December 05 2011 05:00 gruff wrote:
Btw did they say anything about nasl season 3 yesterday? I thought I heard they'd make some announcements later (on the stream?) but I'm not sure I interpreted it correctly.

They announced Tribes: Ascend would be added to NASL, so that should be cool.
lindrup
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark115 Posts
December 04 2011 20:03 GMT
#244
On December 05 2011 04:59 pred470r wrote:
I never thought I would hear "cum swapping" on a official tournament stream.


Hahaha me niether, I like how he stopped right after; "I did not just say that". But it was a really nice play they did tho.

Dat kraken btw!
It's better to burn out, yeah, than fade away!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 04 2011 20:04 GMT
#245
On December 05 2011 04:53 Silver777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 04:45 Packawana wrote:
It's on the West Coast, and I am perfectly fine with a West Coast schedule.

If you can't watch it, don't, if you can, then watch it. Just quit whining because it's not going to do anything to whine -- if there's a substantial drop in viewer numbers than NASL will find their times at fault, and if not then so what?


One thing I've always noticed in the US is that Western Time is almost always consider more important then eastern time. There is really no reason to not have the finals starting at like 7-8 PM EASTERN time as its still completely fine for western(4-5 PM) and it actually makes sense for eastern time(10 PM start is rather late, let alone HBO/showtime etc is on at this time). It's a BO7 and could easily take 1-3 hours also, which can be really late for going to sleep for work eastern time. Euro's benefit from a more eastern based schedule also so NASL's finals time is quite ridiculous for them.

Wait what? East coast time is by far more important than west coast time. Every live event is done by east coast times. Even when the super bowl/nba finals/Monday night football/world series, its done on EST. The reason for shows being later on hbo and showtime has nothing to do with timezones. It has to do with adult content in the shows. Its designed to air at times when children are asleep. Most tv providers have their shows on a delay to fit with those times as weel. So when dexter is on at 9pm est, its also on at 9pm pst.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
December 04 2011 20:04 GMT
#246
GG 1-1.
some decent teamfights in the last match but overall pretty one sided.
I am hoping to see another legionnaire picked up in game 3
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 04 2011 20:06 GMT
#247
Rooting for Thorzain and HerO.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
December 04 2011 20:07 GMT
#248
Is HoN bo3?
SaSe fan club manager
jazzbassmatt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States566 Posts
December 04 2011 20:07 GMT
#249
haha it's sad that the only LR thread I can find for the HoN tournament is on teamliquid...
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
December 04 2011 20:07 GMT
#250
On December 05 2011 05:01 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 04:59 dcemuser wrote:
On December 05 2011 04:43 mitthrawn wrote:
On December 05 2011 04:27 Hagg wrote:
Jesus christ, stop whining about the time being bad allready.
You do have the option to get VODs for a mere $10, and an event in CA WILL be at an awkward time for europe (and probably even east-coast US).
If they were to take Europe into consideration they would have no live audience whatsoever, people aren't generally excited about asc2 final before breakfast.

Also MLG can manage. NASL don't.

MLG is also 2 hours closer to European time.

The start time (8:15 PM) really isn't that unreasonable. It could be an hour or two earlier I guess, but I still think Europeans are just complaining about nothing.

NA people have to deal with this constantly with the GSL (4 A.M.). A tournament has to cater to its live audience and the people in the other parts of the world have to deal with the fact that not everything will be in their time zone. I had to get up very early to watch some of the best Dreamhack games, and missed part of a college class for the finals.

At the end of the day, I realize that the entire world is not structured around my schedule or even my time zone.

But in this case it's not like the two are mutually exclusive. You can set the time back a few hours and it will still be ok for the live audience, while at the same time watchable in Europe. Inconvenient still, but actually watchable....


You and I both can't pretend to know that a slot two hours earlier is even available. There are tons of variables to consider when scheduling a tournament, including the players, casters, live audience, the other finals (HoN in this case), and even other things that we don't know about as spectators.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#251
i really enjoy watching the hon matches tbh
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
December 04 2011 20:09 GMT
#252
Does anyone know the comparison from DotA heroes to HoN heroes? I'm pretty familiar with the DotA ones but not the HoN ones. Kraken looks like Faceless Void.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
December 04 2011 20:10 GMT
#253
On December 05 2011 04:59 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 04:43 mitthrawn wrote:
On December 05 2011 04:27 Hagg wrote:
Jesus christ, stop whining about the time being bad allready.
You do have the option to get VODs for a mere $10, and an event in CA WILL be at an awkward time for europe (and probably even east-coast US).
If they were to take Europe into consideration they would have no live audience whatsoever, people aren't generally excited about asc2 final before breakfast.

Also MLG can manage. NASL don't.

MLG is also 2 hours closer to European time.

The start time (8:15 PM) really isn't that unreasonable. It could be an hour or two earlier I guess, but I still think Europeans are just complaining about nothing.

NA people have to deal with this constantly with the GSL (4 A.M.). A tournament has to cater to its live audience and the people in the other parts of the world have to deal with the fact that not everything will be in their time zone. I had to get up very early to watch some of the best Dreamhack games, and missed part of a college class for the finals.

At the end of the day, I realize that the entire world is not structured around my schedule or even my time zone.


Difference is that Dreamhack releases VODs for free right after the tourney ends so you can sleep soundly and get the final with your first coffee, breakfast for champions. If I want to watch NASL final tomorrow morning, I gotta pay 10$ for it and if it's crap, I just lost 10$ and my coffee will taste bad. I know it's not much but I don't want to pay 10$ everytime I'm gonna watch a Starcraft final (since I couldn't follow the rest of the tournament). Live stream is free ? Well hit me with VODs and a few ads in between each round, I'll be super happy. As it is right now, as a non paying viewer, I'm just losing interest in NASL. Maybe they don't need euro ad revenue in their business model but that we will only know in the future...and if no one complains about it here, I don't know how they're gonna know it at all - guess I could send them a mail about it but somehow Teamliquid seems the best place to do it....
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
December 04 2011 20:10 GMT
#254
Can people not see the big banner at the top?
BlazingSonic
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany51 Posts
December 04 2011 20:10 GMT
#255
did the tribe games already happen? I´m interested in watching some of these
Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
December 04 2011 20:10 GMT
#256
This is so much better then the ipl LoL. Stuff actually happens here!
Praet0rian
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania9 Posts
December 04 2011 20:11 GMT
#257
On December 05 2011 05:09 Inky87 wrote:
Does anyone know the comparison from DotA heroes to HoN heroes? I'm pretty familiar with the DotA ones but not the HoN ones. Kraken looks like Faceless Void.


He only looks like faceless void. The faceless void port is Chronos. Kraken started out as a Leviathan semi-port but he ended up quite different.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:12:09
December 04 2011 20:11 GMT
#258
On December 05 2011 05:09 Inky87 wrote:
Does anyone know the comparison from DotA heroes to HoN heroes? I'm pretty familiar with the DotA ones but not the HoN ones. Kraken looks like Faceless Void.


Hon has some heroes that are directly copied from Dota, kraken however is not one of those.
some of his spells are pretty similar, but his ultimate for example is completely new.

EDIT: Praetorian is correct, he was a port but got changed a few patches later
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
December 04 2011 20:12 GMT
#259
On December 05 2011 05:09 Inky87 wrote:
Does anyone know the comparison from DotA heroes to HoN heroes? I'm pretty familiar with the DotA ones but not the HoN ones. Kraken looks like Faceless Void.

Kraken is similar to Leviathan in DotA, Faceless Void is pretty much a direct port but in HoN he's called Chronos. There are a lot of heroes that are ports but there are some unrelated to DotA as well so even for me who've been playing quite a bit of HoN but been inactive at times it's hard to keep track of all the new heroes S2 are constantly adding into the game.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
December 04 2011 20:13 GMT
#260
When the next game starts i will mention if there are dota heroes at play A lot of the support heroes are direct ports from dota, so you might recognise a couple of them
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
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