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On November 28 2011 19:07 Hierarch wrote: Don't worry guys hopefully MVP vs Leenock will save us from this abomination of a series :D Its not TvP so its instantly way better
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dammit, tried waking up an hour later to dodge oz v jjakji entirely, hopefully game 5 is short and oz wins T_T
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On November 28 2011 19:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:07 Seeker wrote:On November 28 2011 19:06 secretary bird wrote: Has anyone ever won with 14 CC against proxy gates? I believe the better questions is: Has anyone ever DONE blind proxy gates against 14 CCs? The build could work against 1 rax CC if they don't scout cross like jjakji did.
What? Jjakji scouted, and he still lost
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On November 28 2011 19:08 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:07 bittman wrote:On November 28 2011 19:06 Fionn wrote: This is the worst GSL semifinal of all-time.
Impressive. Of all-time? I do remember Inca v Nada being a shocker hahaha. At least this is 2-2 and not one sided =P Inca vs NaDa was like 4 Voidray all ins iirc
The Inca rule. XD
Followed by 4 DT builds in a row vs Nestea.
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On November 28 2011 19:06 SolidMoose wrote: I'm pretty sure if you see that, you have to cancel the CC IMMEDIATELY.
His problem wasn't minerals. His problem was that the pressure came far too quick for a bunker/marines.
I don't think there's anything he could have done once he delayed his rax for the CC first. From that moment, it was a loss.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
OMFG FUCK YEAH!!! I'M A TANK NOW!!! 2000 POSTS AND MORE COMING BABY!
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On November 28 2011 19:09 Salteador Neo wrote: So tell me exactly why he did not cancel the CC and wall in the choke with the barracks right away? Oo' Or am I missing something here?
It's a build order loss, the barracks is just way too late to do anything, no matter the wall-in timings
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United States97276 Posts
hey just remember guys, when we had the terribleness of inca vs nada the other semifinal was nestea vs sC. Leenock vs MVP is going to be the best of all time
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On November 28 2011 19:08 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:07 shikheh wrote: Think positive guys. We will get a crappy series during semi finals instead of finals...GSL curse be lifted..right? NO! jjakji VS MVP in finals > steamroll jjakji VS Leenock in finals > steamroll Oz VS MVP in finals > most likely a steamroll Oz VS Leenock in finals > only way out of steamrolls
I guess you haven't seen Oz vs Curious in the Code A finals... ... ...
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On November 28 2011 19:07 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:06 bittman wrote:On November 28 2011 19:03 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On November 28 2011 19:02 red4ce wrote: PvT is just an awful, awful matchup. Indeed. It always has been the most volatile and allin-infested matchup (well, maybe PvP rivals its terribleness) It's the worst of the non mirror matchups since Protoss only consistently win with super early all-ins or turtle into late game super deathball. This. When stim + combat shield finish assuming standard play, there's a long period of time where protoss can either go all in, or try to avoid engagements. lmao, the super late game is what protoss supposed to be strong at. You want them to fight a terran mm balls when they only have gateways units?
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On November 28 2011 19:06 secretary bird wrote: Has anyone ever won with 14 CC against proxy gates?
Foxer won vs ST.Ace with either 14CC or 1 rax gasless CC on terminus vs 2 proxy gates in his base ))
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Singapore2780 Posts
On November 28 2011 19:09 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:On November 28 2011 19:07 Seeker wrote:On November 28 2011 19:06 secretary bird wrote: Has anyone ever won with 14 CC against proxy gates? I believe the better questions is: Has anyone ever DONE blind proxy gates against 14 CCs? The build could work against 1 rax CC if they don't scout cross like jjakji did. What? Jjakji scouted, and he still lost
What? jjakji did a CC first, not 1rax CC.
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On November 28 2011 19:07 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:06 00Visor wrote: Artosis is really off today
Only pressuring with 2gate proxy? No way, with 1gate maybe. It was 1 gate proxy. He just added the Cyber core proxy as well but I think he only ever had 1 gate. Ay, yeah, thx. But that doesnt change a lot. Once you proxy the core, you have too much in the middle of the map, to just pressure.
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On November 28 2011 19:09 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:07 Zebb wrote: how the hell can you scout the cheese and still lose that badly to it Not much you can do when you go command center first. This is a perfect example of build order loss.
he probably could've held it if he pulls scv earlier and block that path when bunker finishes
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On November 28 2011 19:09 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:07 Zebb wrote: how the hell can you scout the cheese and still lose that badly to it Not much you can do when you go command center first. This is a perfect example of build order loss.
Cancel Finish a wall Make 2 more rax Don't forget your orbital Make a bunker Repair
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I think everyone is being a bit unfair. The first 2 sets had builds worth stealing from the losing player. I think Oz could have held that third.... barely possibly. I think Jijjak was a smidge off the right build for terrans on that map.
The 1-1-1 game meh would have disappointed anyway. TLA game well when you play %s....
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On November 28 2011 19:07 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:06 secretary bird wrote: Has anyone ever won with 14 CC against proxy gates? I believe the better questions is: Has anyone ever DONE blind proxy gates against 14 CCs?
Why not?
Firstly, all proxy gates are mostly done blind.
Either that, or he could have heard from teammates or studied Jjakji's history to know that he will go CC first on Tal Darim with reasonable enough confidence.
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On November 28 2011 19:09 blooblooblahblah wrote: GoSuDoa erik lonnquist I might have a heart attack. This series is sick! #gsl Oz's control that game....
lol YEah, i don't know what it would take for me to actually enjoy this series. Be a really big fan / friend / teammate of either player? Be a protoss / terran player? I just... i can't imagine a situation which would make this remotely entertaining.
Good for Doa though, i'm happy he can find enjoyment in this. (no sarcasm, i like DoA and if he's happy then that's a good thing).
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On November 28 2011 19:09 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:On November 28 2011 19:07 Seeker wrote:On November 28 2011 19:06 secretary bird wrote: Has anyone ever won with 14 CC against proxy gates? I believe the better questions is: Has anyone ever DONE blind proxy gates against 14 CCs? The build could work against 1 rax CC if they don't scout cross like jjakji did. What? Jjakji scouted, and he still lost
Jjakji didn't go 1 rax CC, he went CC first
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On November 28 2011 19:08 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 19:07 bittman wrote:On November 28 2011 19:06 Fionn wrote: This is the worst GSL semifinal of all-time.
Impressive. Of all-time? I do remember Inca v Nada being a shocker hahaha. At least this is 2-2 and not one sided =P Inca vs NaDa was like 4 Voidray all ins iirc
Nope, 2 void ray all in, one scouted and he lost, one 4 gate with 2 gates on a proxy hidden pylon with tons sentries (2 gas), tasteless called Mini-MC Push. And one standard macro game, where he went for Charge+1 armor into archons.
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