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Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
November 26 2011 11:15 GMT
#921
HOLY SHIT! HerO is good!
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
November 26 2011 11:15 GMT
#922
Stream is dead dead dead T_T, cannot watch anything.
Nick3
Profile Joined March 2011
513 Posts
November 26 2011 11:15 GMT
#923
WTF, it should not be possible to pick up when the prism is in warp in mode?
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#924
On November 26 2011 20:09 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:06 Poisonblack wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:00 iky43210 wrote:
On November 26 2011 19:56 dcemuser wrote:
On November 26 2011 19:52 iky43210 wrote:
On November 26 2011 19:47 dcemuser wrote:
On November 26 2011 19:42 happyness wrote:
Was not expecting Nani to be so out classed. Nani crushed DRG at MLG....


Just live your life by these two rules and you'll rarely be disappointed in a player:
1. Bo3s rarely determine the truth
2. SC2 is volatile as hell.


I never understands how people say sc2 is volatile as hell then you have MVP who wins almost everything he attended and nestea/few other players that always have consistent results


1-4 MMA
0-2 MC
2-1 Haypro (barely)
0-2 Leenock

Nestea looked extremely mortal at MLG and MVP was far from a god. Neither of them have posted enough results to be anywhere near the level of dominance that some of the Brood War pros maintained.


flash loses too every once in a while, do we call broodwar volatile?

Look at MVP achievements. He got #1 or #2 on EVERY TOURNAMENT he participated in except MLG providence over the last 4-5 months, with a stunning 11 gold metal and 3 silver over his career with most of them being heavy and competitive games. How is this volatile and not consistent?

Give it a couple of months and it will be as random as a coin flip. SC2 skill level is so low compared to BW especially since most of the strategies and game sense were already known before the release (unlike in BW where it was a totally new way of playing).

Aren't you noticing how foreigners are catching up slowly but surely? Nestea is having mixed results lately as well, MVP is the only player one step above the rest, and that will soon change as well because there's just nothing to 'figure out'. Also being good mechanically gives you a slight edge over your opponent, but nowhere near the advantage it did in BW.


yeah, I'm sure you've said the exact same thing 6 months ago. You're delusional if you think starcraft2 is nearly "figured out" when we still see alot of critical mistakes even by the highest tier of pro. There's not someone yet that can even come close to control their army perfectly, let alone any developments in strategy that'll one day pop up such as DT/cosairs, queens transfuse, raven, warp prism etc.

Sorry to say, but MVP status isn't going to be overcome anytime soon unless he slumps himself. 4-5 months period of domination is not "coinflip". In fact, we're seeing a shift in meta even in GSL from a more terran centric game to a more protoss centric.

"Foreigners" are also not going to catch up to Koreans anytime soon. There'll be a few that can compete with some of them, but not any of them are really capable of consistently getting above GSL ro8, or even ro16 yet


I said 'give it a couple of months'. I'm not saying the successful periods that MC/MvP/Nestea had were due to luck, it was due to better practice, and just better skill overall, they were so far ahead from the competition. However dominating players are getting less and less dominant instead of the opposite.

It's going down one way and you're the delusional one if you can't see it through your rose-tainted glasses.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#925
Haha in every game I've watch Hero play he does this warp prism sentry drop
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#926
Wow Sheth what a boss.
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#927
Holy shit, as a protoss player i cant even describe how hard it is to control that good.
crack
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#928
so bad by HerO failing missing 5+ forcefields :´S
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#929
Amazing micro war
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#930
Wow sheth! Had you totally dead there.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#931
use spores steth!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#932
Woah this series is already delivering :O
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#933
wow, sheth doing so well.

Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
November 26 2011 11:16 GMT
#934
I'd like to hear from some Z in interview, what to do vs this build...
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
November 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#935
Behind all this hero is getting collusus and a 3rd....
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
November 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#936
Who's winning? My stream is like slides, unwatchable.
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
November 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#937
wow...and hero is macroing being this pretty hard. takes a third and colossus on the way
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
November 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#938
Intense.
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
Gin-san
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia92 Posts
November 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#939
Impressive defense by Sheth, really impressive.
Fulltime Troll brought to you by R1CH
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#940
Getting lag in Hero-Sheth.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
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