On November 14 2011 14:20 LighT. wrote: As a korean, I'll be cheering for my koreans vs the swedesm and cheering for Select vs Tassadar.
I havent been following the sc2 scene that much so I'm wondering whats the hype with Sage? Why is everyone so high on him..ForGG is one of my favorite players so I'll be praying that he'll make it out to face Good ol' Polt...
It would be nice if NaDa won, I want him to go for at least one more Code S run before military service
Sage has shown remarkably stellar and intelligent play before in the past. In particular, his PvT and PvZ are very good; his PvP is unfortunately very atrocious, though, and pretty much makes up for how good his other two match-ups are.
Also, Hypetosis. Artosis gets a hard-on for Sage. But Sage is honestly a very good Protoss, and he's shown us that he's not just all hype. Meanwhile, I've seen a few of ForGG's games in the ESV Weekly, and he hasn't really impressed me. He just seems like another pretty good Terran, not someone who'll destroy the scene at all.
such nice games today! I am looking forward to the results since I gotta work in half an hour, but I will be following the LRs in here! go select and forGG~!
Sage vs ForGG...ahh who to go for... I want sage to win but I also want to see how far ForGG has come...and perhaps he's good enough to deserve to win anyway!
On November 14 2011 14:20 LighT. wrote: As a korean, I'll be cheering for my koreans vs the swedesm and cheering for Select vs Tassadar.
I havent been following the sc2 scene that much so I'm wondering whats the hype with Sage? Why is everyone so high on him..ForGG is one of my favorite players so I'll be praying that he'll make it out to face Good ol' Polt...
It would be nice if NaDa won, I want him to go for at least one more Code S run before military service
Sage has shown remarkably stellar and intelligent play before in the past. In particular, his PvT and PvZ are very good; his PvP is unfortunately very atrocious, though, and pretty much makes up for how good his other two match-ups are.
Also, Hypetosis. Artosis gets a hard-on for Sage. But Sage is honestly a very good Protoss, and he's shown us that he's not just all hype. Meanwhile, I've seen a few of ForGG's games in the ESV Weekly, and he hasn't really impressed me. He just seems like another pretty good Terran, not someone who'll destroy the scene at all.
All you have to do is be a pretty good Terran...look at how many are in Code S. So many of those players are nothing special, they're just solid players. Just how the game's going currently.
I think Sage is all hype, personally. I've watched every single one of his GSL games and never been overly impressed. He scouts well and has some innovation in his play (DT drops) and such, but nothing that really stands out...most certainly not the saviour of Protoss like Artosis seems to believe. Oz deserves that title more, if anything.
On November 14 2011 14:20 LighT. wrote: As a korean, I'll be cheering for my koreans vs the swedesm and cheering for Select vs Tassadar.
I havent been following the sc2 scene that much so I'm wondering whats the hype with Sage? Why is everyone so high on him..ForGG is one of my favorite players so I'll be praying that he'll make it out to face Good ol' Polt...
It would be nice if NaDa won, I want him to go for at least one more Code S run before military service
Sage has shown remarkably stellar and intelligent play before in the past. In particular, his PvT and PvZ are very good; his PvP is unfortunately very atrocious, though, and pretty much makes up for how good his other two match-ups are.
Also, Hypetosis. Artosis gets a hard-on for Sage. But Sage is honestly a very good Protoss, and he's shown us that he's not just all hype. Meanwhile, I've seen a few of ForGG's games in the ESV Weekly, and he hasn't really impressed me. He just seems like another pretty good Terran, not someone who'll destroy the scene at all.
All you have to do is be a pretty good Terran...look at how many are in Code S. So many of those players are nothing special, they're just solid players. Just how the game's going currently.
I think Sage is all hype, personally. I've watched every single one of his GSL games and never been overly impressed. He scouts well and has some innovation in his play (DT drops) and such, but nothing that really stands out...most certainly not the saviour of Protoss like Artosis seems to believe. Oz deserves that title more, if anything.
Given that you've said he scouts well (which is, IMO, his biggest selling point) and has some innovation in his play, I think that proves that he isn't all hype.
None of the Protoss in the GSL so far that I've seen deserve to be called the "savior of Protoss," IMO. Some have gotten good results, but that's it; I don't really see anything metagame-shifting that might swing the pendulum back the other way in PvZ or PvT.
As for ForGG, I was merely addressing the general belief that some people seem to hold about him completely dominating SC2. He's not even close to being a top-tier Terran at the moment compared to what the hype might lead you to believe (where top-tier = players like MVP, MMA, MKP, Bomber, Happy, Supernova, Ganzi, etc., not necessarily in that order, and yes, I probably missed a ton).
On November 14 2011 14:20 LighT. wrote: As a korean, I'll be cheering for my koreans vs the swedesm and cheering for Select vs Tassadar.
I havent been following the sc2 scene that much so I'm wondering whats the hype with Sage? Why is everyone so high on him..ForGG is one of my favorite players so I'll be praying that he'll make it out to face Good ol' Polt...
It would be nice if NaDa won, I want him to go for at least one more Code S run before military service
Sage has shown remarkably stellar and intelligent play before in the past. In particular, his PvT and PvZ are very good; his PvP is unfortunately very atrocious, though, and pretty much makes up for how good his other two match-ups are.
Also, Hypetosis. Artosis gets a hard-on for Sage. But Sage is honestly a very good Protoss, and he's shown us that he's not just all hype. Meanwhile, I've seen a few of ForGG's games in the ESV Weekly, and he hasn't really impressed me. He just seems like another pretty good Terran, not someone who'll destroy the scene at all.
All you have to do is be a pretty good Terran...look at how many are in Code S. So many of those players are nothing special, they're just solid players. Just how the game's going currently.
I think Sage is all hype, personally. I've watched every single one of his GSL games and never been overly impressed. He scouts well and has some innovation in his play (DT drops) and such, but nothing that really stands out...most certainly not the saviour of Protoss like Artosis seems to believe. Oz deserves that title more, if anything.
Given that you've said he scouts well (which is, IMO, his biggest selling point) and has some innovation in his play, I think that proves that he isn't all hype.
None of the Protoss in the GSL so far that I've seen deserve to be called the "savior of Protoss," IMO. Some have gotten good results, but that's it; I don't really see anything metagame-shifting that might swing the pendulum back the other way in PvZ or PvT.
As for ForGG, I was merely addressing the general belief that some people seem to hold about him completely dominating SC2. He's not even close to being a top-tier Terran at the moment compared to what the hype might lead you to believe (where top-tier = players like MVP, MMA, MKP, Bomber, Happy, Supernova, Ganzi, etc., not necessarily in that order, and yes, I probably missed a ton).
I don't think anyone who actually follows both BW and SC2 closely could rationally think fOrGG would be an elite terran already. He only just joined oGs a month ago. fOrGG himself certainly doesn't think he's that great yet.
How long do you think it will take before you conquer SC2?
I have no idea either. If I had some game sense I wouldn't be nervous at all and playing in official matches wouldn't be much of a burden, but right now my understanding of the game is still not that great compared to BW so I'm not sure. However I think it might be possible within one year.
As far as Sage goes, I'll be honest I haven't seen too many of his games, but anyone who goes 6-1 against terran in GSL games during the sad zealot era must be someone to be feared. I'd put him as the moderate favorite in this series.
On November 14 2011 14:20 LighT. wrote: As a korean, I'll be cheering for my koreans vs the swedesm and cheering for Select vs Tassadar.
I havent been following the sc2 scene that much so I'm wondering whats the hype with Sage? Why is everyone so high on him..ForGG is one of my favorite players so I'll be praying that he'll make it out to face Good ol' Polt...
It would be nice if NaDa won, I want him to go for at least one more Code S run before military service
Sage has shown remarkably stellar and intelligent play before in the past. In particular, his PvT and PvZ are very good; his PvP is unfortunately very atrocious, though, and pretty much makes up for how good his other two match-ups are.
Also, Hypetosis. Artosis gets a hard-on for Sage. But Sage is honestly a very good Protoss, and he's shown us that he's not just all hype. Meanwhile, I've seen a few of ForGG's games in the ESV Weekly, and he hasn't really impressed me. He just seems like another pretty good Terran, not someone who'll destroy the scene at all.
All you have to do is be a pretty good Terran...look at how many are in Code S. So many of those players are nothing special, they're just solid players. Just how the game's going currently.
I think Sage is all hype, personally. I've watched every single one of his GSL games and never been overly impressed. He scouts well and has some innovation in his play (DT drops) and such, but nothing that really stands out...most certainly not the saviour of Protoss like Artosis seems to believe. Oz deserves that title more, if anything.
On November 14 2011 12:41 Khaldor wrote: Theres some misinformation guys. DoA and Wolf are not casting today. Moletrap and myself will be casting on Stream 1 in the studio whereas Wolf is going to be the solocaster on Stream 2 this time.
Cheers, Khaldor
Hey, it's your first time on stream unless I'm mistaken ^^ that wasn't really misinformation, that was using last week information because no one communicate on who the casters will be.
I can't see NaDa winning, his TvP has looked so bad recently, that even if SocceR isn't the best, I can still see him winning without too many problems.
EPT
But Sage is honestly a very good Protoss, and he's shown us that he's not just all hype. Meanwhile, I've seen a few of ForGG's games in the ESV Weekly, and he hasn't really impressed me. He just seems like another pretty good Terran, not someone who'll destroy the scene at all.
