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On October 22 2011 09:52 Capped wrote: I dont know why you are all surprised about the ZvZ's,
2P 5T 9Z
MVP vs Select going on right now.
Dimaga vs Brat_Ok.
Nestea vs Naniwa.
There are SOOOO many more matches going on right now other than ZvZ. Don't be clueless.
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On October 22 2011 09:52 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:45 Cyro wrote: Artosis on the protoss harass unit - "It is faster than a hellion in the air" That is really really damn fast, Hellions have 4.25 speed...
For comparison warp prism with speed upgrade is 3.375 speed. None has any thoughts on this?
You know that Beta is for balancing?
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On October 22 2011 09:40 K3Nyy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:28 johnnywup wrote:On October 22 2011 09:26 pokemeanddie wrote: I can understand why blizzard decide to cast these games. Although I agree this is horrible for people watching the streams, but by doing it this way at least blizzard is giving a chance for each qualified player to show off their skills/play style. Since the matches in the tournament are running simultaneously, if they choose to cast MVP and Nestea's game over everyone else's, we'll end up watching 2 days of SC2 with at least MVP or Nestea in almost every single match. I'm sure people on TL would LOVE that but that would not be fair for the 14 other players who also qualified for this tournament. They deserve their chances to be on the stream as much as Nestea and MVP. But you need to remember MVP and Nestea are without the doubt the heavy favourite to meet in the winner bracket final as well as grand final. So we will get to watch them eventually.
As much as I love sen, I really wish to see a non zvz before GSL final =( thats actually a really good point, so many amazing progamers that are overshadowed by just a handful of accomplished progamers. give some attention to the lesser known ones! I don't think that is their intention. They are a business and their goal is to make the stream as entertaining as possible in order to make their company look better and make more money. It would be pretty dumb to not give the fans what they want, especially when it's so easy to do so. There were also sooooo many games where they could've casted instead of taking long breaks in between the games. It just seems like a very disorganized event to be honest.
I think it's common knowledge that Blizzard loses money on Blizzcon.
It's funny actually because Blizzard gives attention the lesser known players after the TL blizzcon review touches on these disparity.
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lots of luck involved in WoW....
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Why all the hate on the WoW casters? Because of their looks? Come on.
Casters are fine, it's just impossible to understand wtf is going on, but nothing any caster could do to fix that in this case I think lol
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On October 22 2011 09:53 GammaRayToaster wrote: >50% downtime with nothing going on, 90% ZvZ and a map pool that only does well as a april joke. man I'd be pissed if I payed 30 bucks for this joke
can't get my head around why one wouldn't try to fill that downtime.. at an event like this with day9/jp/tastosis around, lots of games being played at the same time it should be impossible to have nothing to show.. I'm really sad they're not even trying to make a good show for the online viewers, speaking of the producers, not of day9/jp/tastosis.
Yeah seriously, this makes the downtime of MLG's old format look like nothing. WTF is this, there isn't even anything of any interest to anyone but wow players on the other streams.
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Not going to whine about balance, but from my personal experience Warlocks have always been OP in pvp
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On October 22 2011 09:53 JohnnyBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:52 Capped wrote: I dont know why you are all surprised about the ZvZ's,
2P 5T 9Z MVP vs Select going on right now. Dimaga vs Brat_Ok. Nestea vs Naniwa. There are SOOOO many more matches going on right now other than ZvZ. Don't be clueless. Why would they show Dimaga vs Brat_Ok rather than Ret vs SEn though?
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Well guys I bet blizzard is thinking, zvz games are quite nailbiting and they want to show that to the viewers and people that are at the actual event so they can have a edge-of-seat experience maybe?
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why all the wow hate? Okay its not your game but you dont have to bash it simply because its not sc2..and these casters have been around since wow vanilla
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On October 22 2011 09:53 dgdsg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:52 Cyro wrote:On October 22 2011 09:45 Cyro wrote: Artosis on the protoss harass unit - "It is faster than a hellion in the air" That is really really damn fast, Hellions have 4.25 speed...
For comparison warp prism with speed upgrade is 3.375 speed. None has any thoughts on this? You know that Beta is for balancing?
It cant be nerfed or buffed if nobody talks about it.
I play protoss myself, but if it is legit as fast as that, i have to wonder about its other stats, and the cooldown on its other abilities.
It seems it could run into a mineral line and block all the patches even with like 5 turrets there and then get out with its speed, which could result in it being nerfed in the wrong areas to compensate
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On October 22 2011 09:56 Garfunko wrote: why all the wow hate? Okay its not your game but you dont have to bash it simply because its not sc2..and these casters have been around since wow vanilla
It can be kinda troublesome though when the casters are casting it and they go "Well i dont know wtf happened" a few times.
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On October 22 2011 09:56 Garfunko wrote: why all the wow hate? Okay its not your game but you dont have to bash it simply because its not sc2..and these casters have been around since wow vanilla Bashing other games is unfortunately pretty common in LR threads.
Sen fighting!
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Are the games still going? Hope Select slams MVP >_>
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On October 22 2011 09:54 dtz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:40 K3Nyy wrote:On October 22 2011 09:28 johnnywup wrote:On October 22 2011 09:26 pokemeanddie wrote: I can understand why blizzard decide to cast these games. Although I agree this is horrible for people watching the streams, but by doing it this way at least blizzard is giving a chance for each qualified player to show off their skills/play style. Since the matches in the tournament are running simultaneously, if they choose to cast MVP and Nestea's game over everyone else's, we'll end up watching 2 days of SC2 with at least MVP or Nestea in almost every single match. I'm sure people on TL would LOVE that but that would not be fair for the 14 other players who also qualified for this tournament. They deserve their chances to be on the stream as much as Nestea and MVP. But you need to remember MVP and Nestea are without the doubt the heavy favourite to meet in the winner bracket final as well as grand final. So we will get to watch them eventually.
As much as I love sen, I really wish to see a non zvz before GSL final =( thats actually a really good point, so many amazing progamers that are overshadowed by just a handful of accomplished progamers. give some attention to the lesser known ones! I don't think that is their intention. They are a business and their goal is to make the stream as entertaining as possible in order to make their company look better and make more money. It would be pretty dumb to not give the fans what they want, especially when it's so easy to do so. There were also sooooo many games where they could've casted instead of taking long breaks in between the games. It just seems like a very disorganized event to be honest. I think it's common knowledge that Blizzard loses money on Blizzcon. It's funny actually because Blizzard gives attention the lesser known players after the TL blizzcon review touches on these disparity.
Hahaha yeah I found that pretty funny.
We are the 99%? We will give you your 99%
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On October 22 2011 09:56 Garfunko wrote: why all the wow hate? Okay its not your game but you dont have to bash it simply because its not sc2..and these casters have been around since wow vanilla
I think most are bashing the choice of games, ans the lack of their casting the most important/epic matches (Select v MVP, Nestea v Naniwa).
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On October 22 2011 09:54 InvalidID wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 09:53 GammaRayToaster wrote: >50% downtime with nothing going on, 90% ZvZ and a map pool that only does well as a april joke. man I'd be pissed if I payed 30 bucks for this joke
can't get my head around why one wouldn't try to fill that downtime.. at an event like this with day9/jp/tastosis around, lots of games being played at the same time it should be impossible to have nothing to show.. I'm really sad they're not even trying to make a good show for the online viewers, speaking of the producers, not of day9/jp/tastosis. Yeah seriously, this makes the downtime of MLG's old format look like nothing. WTF is this, there isn't even anything of any interest to anyone but wow players on the other streams.
In terms of down time
GSL > Dreamhack > IPL > MLG > IEM > a airplane taxied on a runway in a blizzard > Blizzcon.
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On October 22 2011 09:50 JohnnyBanana wrote: The WoW commentator just said, "I don't even know what happened there," when one of the guys died.
I don't think anyone knows wtf is happening on the WoW stream.
Whoever named these two games is so brilliant. He summed up my feelings for both games perfectly WoW LoL!!!
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On October 22 2011 09:54 Villi wrote:Casters are fine, it's just impossible to understand wtf is going on, but nothing any caster could do to fix that in this case I think lol Well WoW isn't as spectator friendly as SC2, but if you don't know much about the game you can't expect a crystal clear overview coming into a professional tournament either. I don't have any particular problems following this, and I quit WoW some time ago.
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On October 22 2011 09:56 Garfunko wrote: why all the wow hate? Okay its not your game but you dont have to bash it simply because its not sc2..and these casters have been around since wow vanilla
we have nothing else to do...
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