Multiplay are very proud to present the IPL 4 IGN Pro League UK Qualifiers, at our November LAN event, insomnia44! Featuring Starcraft 2, the IPL tournament will be a combination of players qualifying from the Insomnia Multiplay Starcraft 2 tournament and invited pro players.
The Multiplay 1v1 Starcraft 2 Tournament at insomnia44 will be a 256 player BYOC open bracket format, with the top 16 players earning a place in our IPL 4 EU Qualifier on the Sunday.
Those top 16 will then play against top pro players from around Europe, and players from 2 online qualifiers hosted by IGN & Playhem for the prize pool of $20,000, and a coveted spot in IPL 4 in the US next year!
To get your ticket to insomnia44, head on over to our Tickets Page to get your seat at the Biggest Gaming Festival in the UK!
—————————————————————– Therefore, at insomnia44 we will be hosting TWO Starcraft 2 tournaments over the weekend;
1 – 256 Player BYOC Tournament for all attendees of i44. Top 16 will qualify for the IPL4 Qualifier on Sunday. Sign up on our SC2 Tournament Page SC2 Tournament Page when you have a ticket to the event!
2 – 32 Player IPL EU Qualifier. Consisting of 16 from the BYOC, 4 Online qualifiers and 12 Pro Invites. —————————————————————–
Friday 18th November 2011 – Saturday 19th November 2011 Signups CLOSE at 12:30 GMT on Friday 18th. Tournament BEGINS at 14:00 GMT.
IGN Pro League 4 UK Qualifier
Sunday 20th November 2011 Tournament BEGINS at 10:00 GMT. (Warning: Times are subject to changes running up to the event! Keep an eye on the tournament pages on our site) —————————————————————–
Maximum of 256 Participants. Best of 3 Double Elimination structure. Best of 5 (If there is time otherwise Best of 3 – Admins discretion) Upper, Lower and consolation finals. Grand Final: Best of 7 (Winners bracket player has 2-0 head start) Number of rounds will be configured based on signups at the event (BYOC). Full 256 players will mean 16 rounds.
32 Participants. BO3 Double Elimination structure. BO5 (If there is time otherwise BO3 – Admins discretion) Upper, Lower and consolation finals. BO7 Grand final, 2-0 advantage to upper bracket player. 32 Players double elimination format makes for 10 rounds.
Prizes insomnia44 BYOC Multiplay Starcraft 2 Tournament (IPL pre-qualifier): Top 16 Players are seeded 17-32 into the Sunday IPL 4 Qualifier.
IPL4 Qualifier: Winner receives qualification into IPL 4 with Flights and accommodation provided by IGN Entertainment, and a share of the prize pool.
1st: $10,000
2nd: $5,000
3rd: $2,000
4th: $1,000
5th-8th $500
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Casters Totalbiscuit and dApollo will both be casting the later stages of the BYOC, and then the duration of the IPL 4 EU Qualifier – both regulars on the Multiplay Starcraft 2 scene the games will be incredibly exciting to watch with their live presence!
10:00 GMT (+00:00) - 17:00 GMT (+00:00) - All day streaming the BYOC open tournament.
Times are estimates and are subject to change, based on game lengths during the tournament.
It's announcements like this that make me want to forget all the wrongdoings of iSeries in other games and attend. Maybe if I get to play Totalbiscuit and dApollo like a pair of conga drums.
Looking forward to it. It's unbelievable how many awesome tournaments take place resently.
Also IPL 4 will be even better than IPL 3 since the community saw how well it's produced and hopefully next time the crowd will be bigger and more hyped up
Announcing this so late and doing it on the same date as the biggest tourney of the year (Providence).. This would have been a fine tournament to participate in. Unfortunately everything is booked for Providence.
I don't feel that there will be too much overlap between providence and this qualifier, since many players in EU are unable make the trip to the US. I feel that this qualifier is more designed for any up-and-coming EU players to have a chance to make a name for themselves.
Nevertheless, IPL4 needs more hype, which is ironic because IGN is a media company.
Edit: Whoa, first day on TL and I got quoted by TotalBiscuit. Awesome!
On October 25 2011 08:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Announcing this so late and doing it on the same date as the biggest tourney of the year (Providence).. This would have been a fine tournament to participate in. Unfortunately everything is booked for Providence.
On October 25 2011 08:17 Bagration wrote: I don't feel that there will be too much overlap between providence and this qualifier, since many players in EU are unable make the trip to the US. I feel that this qualifier is more designed for any up-and-coming EU players to have a chance to make a name for themselves.
Nevertheless, IPL4 needs more hype, which is ironic because IGN is a media company.
This is what I would think/hope as well. It makes a lot more sense to come to IPL in the UK for many of the Europeans, flights are cheap, the place is fairly accessible and the potential payout is good.
This is official, by the way. There was some skepticism from the community, but the tournament is being run by insomnia44 with our full consent. Can't wait to see who will make it out of this qualifier alive!
More qualifiers may be springing up in the near future, so keep an eye out.
This is really great to see, a major tournament qualifier in the UK, I love to see the commitment IGN has towards making eSports happen. If I was good enough and didn't need to get a flight just to get there (live in Northern Ireland) I would totally attend this but I wish the attendees and the tournament all the best. I assume this is going to be streamed? If so can watch this in the morning then pick up on MLG providence later in the day when it starts, gonna be an epic weekend of SC2.
On October 25 2011 11:00 Bobster wrote: 15k for a qualifer tournament? That's just as preposterous as Blizzcon.
IPL4 stepping up their game.
edit: sucks for Liquid though, they're one of the very few teams sending EU guys to MLG and are getting punished for that now.
It's a shame for them but it's not particularly a punishment - MLG is definitely going to be the bigger event of the weekend even though the timezones only marginally overlap for spectators.
The dates for insomnia have been set forever, just like those for MLG, only the prize pool in house was going to be a lot smaller - about a fifth if I recall. This is a relatively easy chance for IPL to get their foot in to Europe, brings prestige to both insomnia and IPL, and should attract much better players to the UK as a result. There's still plenty who will be able to make it short haul despite the unfortunate short notice.
On October 25 2011 11:39 VirgilSC2 wrote: I think Stephano might be the favorite to take this tournament, because IIRC he won't be competing at Providence.
I dont think he have to qualify if im not mistaken the the top 3 would automatical get into IPL 4 I read that somewhere but i could be mistaken. But would make sence
On October 25 2011 11:39 VirgilSC2 wrote: I think Stephano might be the favorite to take this tournament, because IIRC he won't be competing at Providence.
I dont think he have to qualify if im not mistaken the the top 3 would automatical get into IPL 4 I read that somewhere but i could be mistaken. But would make sence
He may not have to qualify, but unless he isn't allowed in the qualifier for that reason, that's a pretty big sum of money to turn your head at.
Instead of advertising this as a Qualifier, I think IGN will get alot more hype if they treat this as a tournament like MLG treats their "qualifiers" for Providence.
On October 25 2011 11:39 VirgilSC2 wrote: I think Stephano might be the favorite to take this tournament, because IIRC he won't be competing at Providence.
I dont think he have to qualify if im not mistaken the the top 3 would automatical get into IPL 4 I read that somewhere but i could be mistaken. But would make sence
He may not have to qualify, but unless he isn't allowed in the qualifier for that reason, that's a pretty big sum of money to turn your head at.
True he would proberly enter to take the 15k but is he alowed ? proberly not, lets see
On October 25 2011 12:29 ninjamyst wrote: Instead of advertising this as a Qualifier, I think IGN will get alot more hype if they treat this as a tournament like MLG treats their "qualifiers" for Providence.
I think it already is really, it's more like the Insomnia44 BYOC Finals
I also don't think people are realizing that the other 16 players come from 2 Online Qualifiers that have yet to be held, IPL is about to have even more amazing content for us.
IPL 3 Replays on IPL TV IPL 4 Online Qualifiers IPL 4 UK LAN Qualifiers IPL 4 Australia Qualifiers IPL 4 Pacific Qualifiers
On October 25 2011 08:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Announcing this so late and doing it on the same date as the biggest tourney of the year (Providence).. This would have been a fine tournament to participate in. Unfortunately everything is booked for Providence.
Calling Providence as the biggest toruney of the year is a bit farfetched... When it comes to pricepool its like 8th this year. GSL have deeper purse each month ^^ The only thing that helps a bit is 1st place price... 50k $ makes it the 2nd best payout for the winner in this year.
Ps. Even if it was announced earlier you would still send your team to MLG due to TLO and Tyler personal contracts with sponsors.
its always a shame when big tournaments are on the exact same weekend. Hadnt heard anyhting about the IPL tournament till now, hopefully someone from the uk will qualify!!! lol
Be nice if some top europeans came over though!! just byoc.....
Exciting news! And less than an hour's drive away from me. I'm definitely going to turn up on the Sunday to see the IPL qualifier.
I doubt I can persuade any of my local friends to come to watch Starcraft with me though, so I'll be there on my own. Anyone else going that feels like making a TL meetup?
About 30 miles NW of Birmingham or 40 from the Airport
didnt realaise so far away from the airport... sucks for any foreigners who come over!!!
Not really due to the good train links from Birmingham airport.
To put it in to some sort of context the distance from LAX to the Anaheim Convention Centre is 35 miles, and Boston Logan to Providence is 50. It's not a long way at all.
About 30 miles NW of Birmingham or 40 from the Airport
didnt realaise so far away from the airport... sucks for any foreigners who come over!!!
Not really due to the good train links from Birmingham airport.
To put it in to some sort of context the distance from LAX to the Anaheim Convention Centre is 35 miles, and Boston Logan to Providence is 50. It's not a long way at all.
the only difference is that they dont have to take their computers with them
Thats what I meant by long way, trains are crowded and I wouldnt put my computer in the undercarriage of a bus Im goign to try go to the next insomnia and im driving all the way!!!
There are some incredible players on their way to this qualifier in November, and we're working on getting the online portion of the tournament underway soon! Keep an eye out for signups!
Minigun and Darkforce both qualified through online tournaments so thats 2 out of 16 pros known, can't wait to see the rest :D
Btw to everyone going to the BYOC, make sure you go into the SC2 tourny then signup and enter, at i43 I met a few people who didn't do this and wern't allowed to play in the tournament!
So no money for winning the main byoc tournament this time just a 17th seed for the Sunday? Hardly seems worth playing past Ro16 in that case. This whole format seems a little rough on the competitive uk players tbh
To be fair, it is to earn your place amongst players that are normally invited to big tournaments you simply would not have the chance to play in. Other tournaments have similar massive open brackets to qualify to play the big players, this time we offer 16 places for such a chance, not something to be scoffed at.
If you earn the 17th seed by winning, you don't have to face the best player we can invite in the first game. You get to play seed 16 first instead. That has to be worthwhile when it comes to a $20,000 prize pool hasn't it? Its a LOT of cash!
On November 02 2011 02:32 Kharne wrote: To be fair, it is to earn your place amongst players that are normally invited to big tournaments you simply would not have the chance to play in. Other tournaments have similar massive open brackets to qualify to play the big players, this time we offer 16 places for such a chance, not something to be scoffed at.
If you earn the 17th seed by winning, you don't have to face the best player we can invite in the first game. You get to play seed 16 first instead. That has to be worthwhile when it comes to a $20,000 prize pool hasn't it? Its a LOT of cash!
I don't mind the whole setup, im just really bloody curious about the prizepool distribution. If its only top 8 like last iseries that seems harsh as like no british person will take money home (apart from like bling).
The 6 invited players are: Dignitas – Samayan “BlinG” Kay Team Grubby – Manuel “Grubby” Scenkhuizen Ttesports – Aleksey “WhiteRa” Krupnyk mousesports – Marcus “ThorZaIN” Eklöf mousesports – Dennis “HasuObs” Schneider Team Redbyte Italia – Maurizio “StarEagle” Carioti
The 2 online qualifier players are of course
Team Alternate – Johnathan “DarKFoRcE” Belke compLexity – Chad “Minigun” Jones
Pughy - I honestly think this is amazing for UK players - we have never had a prize pool like this before, and the chances are the players that qualify from the BYOC will be mostly from the UK - and they get to prove themselves against players that otherwise you would only watch streams of and see compete around the world. As with any competition, they need to do well in the tournament to win prize money - and with 16 slots in the 32 player bracket - there is a good chance for some upsets and a top 8 UK position, win 2 sets and prize money is achieved!
I am really looking forward to seeing some of the best the UK has to offer against some of the best in Europe.
On November 02 2011 03:51 Pughy wrote: As much as I love some of these players putting it as top 8 get prizemoney really shits on all the UK players.
Am really disapointed.
yeh your not the only one, first of all they say IPL wualifer is being played is being played late then they pretty much screw all the UK players anyway. no incentive for anyone to actually turn up and play the BYOC if their going to invite 16 players of the top europeans. Only benefit would be to play vs probably one top eurpoean if you actually mmanage to get into the IPL event? lol
Just out of curosity do the invited players have to bringtheir own computers?
Machines are provided for the 12 invited and 2 online qualifier players.
This tournament is still is incredibly open to all comers to prove they are good enough. We are trying to base things at a level where the top players WANT to come and play, and the average player can come and at least show they are worthy of prize money at a prestigious event. When you get past top 8, you could pay out to top 16. But then somebody may argue it is unfair to the top 32. You need to choose a line and we have chosen 8 for this event.
All feedback is taken on board of course, negative and positive and will have some influence when planning future tournaments. I <3 Pughy and think he is awesome just in case anyone is not sure
I personally think this is what we needed, so badly in the UK. No sc2 gaming houses or shit like that. THIS IS IT, so excited Kharne, i'll be there in full support!
More importantly, I have an actual chance (although it's pretty slim, telford's a bitch to get to from surrey) of actually seeing thorzain, whitera, etc. This must be one of the first times they've been in the UK.
On November 02 2011 03:51 Pughy wrote: As much as I love some of these players putting it as top 8 get prizemoney really shits on all the UK players.
Am really disapointed.
Quite the opposite, this is a great opportunity for the SC2 scene in the UK. Some big names finally competing at an event hosted in the UK.
once we get a tournaments up and running thats no players need to bring their own computer I think then we can say were in the the right direction. Thats whats happening in the rest fo the world.
Dont get me wrong I will be watching on stream and I44 is known as one of the best in the world BYOC event but the bitter taste of what happened at EGL from a suppliers point means that the UK still has tons of work to go fiorward, I hope EGL can get some kind of compesnsation of what happened as surely the suppliers should of checked everything was working properly as well?
Once we get tournaments such as europe and america where competitors dont need to bring their own computers as unless you drive its so difficult to get everything there we will see the bets foreigners turning up without havign to be invited and given a computer.
Anyway I hope we see a few Uk players in the Top 8 and mayb one or two suprises
On November 03 2011 00:14 Kharne wrote: All feedback is taken on board of course, negative and positive and will have some influence when planning future tournaments. I <3 Pughy and think he is awesome just in case anyone is not sure
Ofcourse bro gotta share the love :D And yeah while I'm disapointed less british player's will end up with prizemoney, i44 will put us on the map and hopefully that'll have alot of long term benefits for the entire scene so its all good ! And the iseries events are worth going to for socialising and having a laugh alone so this tournament is really gonna be sick good :D
To everyone who hasn't gone to an iseries event, its 24 hour gaming so from 6pm thursday (which costs extra) til monday 4pm its non stop gaming!!! So be prepared for some crazy shit You'll see ppl in pajamas and dressing gowns just casually walking around. Theres a bar open til 1ish (cant take booze in tho) and the venue itself is in a very busy place, mcdonalds and asda's are a 5 minute walk aswell as a shopping center and some pubs.
Some photos from i43, this is the first time(i think) at the TIC and i44 will be the second time!
This is half of hall 1 which was 1/3 of the gaming area
Mcdgobert from Dignitas (hes management) give away a Bigfoot net card but he made the dude come on stage and dance first. This was during the opening ceremony and was so funny, be careful though, shit gets voilent when they chuck freebies
Main camping site
Promo girl taping a nerd to a chair, pillars are also common aswell
The famous Sombrero BBQ
Buch from team infused's HoN team, was alittle tired after the BBQ. They came first and won £2100 lmao
Me playing ArcaneWinds on the stands, ginger team kill
This is exactly what the UK needs, everybody should want to play vs the best players in the world or there is no point in competiting IMO. After attending EGL and playing vs 4k dream, theres nothing more challenging than that calibre especially compared to ladder. If your not there to take it seriously then have fun and try your luck vs the best players with crazy strats, whilst having fun with your mates at lan. I personally cant wait and i really hope i get to play some of the invited players :D :D.
Dont get me wrong I will be watching on stream and I44 is known as one of the best in the world BYOC event but the bitter taste of what happened at EGL from a suppliers point means that the UK still has tons of work to go fiorward, I hope EGL can get some kind of compesnsation of what happened as surely the suppliers should of checked everything was working properly as well?
What happened at EGL?
Also does anyone know what time the finals are likely to finish on Sunday? Planning a trip up there and want to know whether we can get the last train back or whether we'll need to stay somewhere.
Dont get me wrong I will be watching on stream and I44 is known as one of the best in the world BYOC event but the bitter taste of what happened at EGL from a suppliers point means that the UK still has tons of work to go fiorward, I hope EGL can get some kind of compesnsation of what happened as surely the suppliers should of checked everything was working properly as well?
What happened at EGL?
Also does anyone know what time the finals are likely to finish on Sunday? Planning a trip up there and want to know whether we can get the last train back or whether we'll need to stay somewhere.
SCAN messed up and sent less pc's then ordered and some wernt even working properly! And no one will be able to tell you what time the finals finish so plan to stay somewhere man just incase!!
UPDATED the full player list in the first post. OH MY GOD!!!!!
Check it:
Players Invited: 1 Teamredbyte Italy - Mauritius "Stareagle" Carioti T 2 Dignitas - Samayan "BlinG" Kay P 3 Team Alternate - Carlo "ClouD" Giannacco T 4 Team Grubby - Manuel “Grubby” Schenkhuizen P 5 mousesports - Marcus "ThorZaIN" Eklöf T 6 mousesports - Dennis "HasuObs" Schneider P 7 Tt Esports - Aleksey “WhiteRa” Krupnyk P 8 Quantic Gaming - Kim “SaSe” Hammar P 9 Millenium - Ilyes “Stephano” Satouri Z 10 Millenium - Benoît “Adelscott” Strypsteen P 11 Evil Geniuses - Benjamin “DeMusliM” Baker T 12 infused - Nathan “Lau” Lau T
Online Qualified Players (Run by IGN & Playhem)
Week 1 13 Team Alternate - Jonathan “DarKFoRcE” Belke (Qualifier 1) Z 14 compLexity - Chad “Minigun” Jones (Qualifier 1) P
Week 2 15 SlayerS - Kim Dong Won “Ryung” T 16 MvP - Kim Won Hyung “TAiLS” P
Really hope there are some actual prizes for the people who win the BYOC section of the tournament other than just the chance to lose gloriously to Stephano etc
On November 10 2011 01:32 mvtaylor wrote: Really hope there are some actual prizes for the people who win the BYOC section of the tournament other than just the chance to lose gloriously to Stephano etc
from what ive read the prize is to get into the IPL qualifier!!!!
So glad Stephano is going though!!! Suprised he isnt going to MLG though :S
wonder who else will turn up now with the attention the event is now getting for the BYOC part!!!
On November 11 2011 08:10 fezvez wrote: Arrrggg, tough competition with MLG for viewership... Though I guess it makes sense because it's a european event.
Anyway, I'm glad something of this caliber happens in the UK!
If the format is similar to the last time Multiplay and MLG were held in the same days, they don't (or barely) overlap. You just need to give up sleep :p
On the negative side, I see that most of the top players from last BYOC are already qualified for the 32-man IPL4 round, so it looks like, at least Friday, won't be that exciting.
Can't wait to see how this event plays out with this player pool. Looking really good! A bit sad that it has to happen on the same weekend as MLG however especially since I wont be able to see most of either tournament.
We're at the office at the moment gearing up to get everything sorted for the main stage. Looks like our stream will finish before Provi starts so that all the viewers that want to can hop over.
If DeMuslim wins this, the crowd will go F'N mental!!! English have always been crazy when it comes to supporting athletes/football teams/whatever, im pretty sure our nerds wont let us down if DeMuslim goes all the way!!! Big cheers for him.
I wont be able to be there this weekend now as of a second family death this year has plagued my plans so i will be watching via stream cheering on DeMu to take home the gold for us English!
On November 11 2011 07:12 UnholyRai wrote: ahh why can't this be held in london...
London is shitty and expensive.
Make sure you give a shout out to shitty and expensive London when we're supporting you at Barcraft TB.
Np, you smogfilled city of ingrates and expensive, watered down beer
You've done a good job of pretending you're not a Geordie TB, but us Londoners know where you're really from! Watered down beer? Have you tried Newcy Brown?
For anyone going to this, I plan on streaming Providence on a nice big TV once this and the actual i44 tourney is over (if they are still doing one, which they should, last LANs final with merz and Fargo was sick). I'll post seating when its confirmed!
On November 11 2011 07:12 UnholyRai wrote: ahh why can't this be held in london...
London is shitty and expensive.
Make sure you give a shout out to shitty and expensive London when we're supporting you at Barcraft TB.
Np, you smogfilled city of ingrates and expensive, watered down beer
You've done a good job of pretending you're not a Geordie TB, but us Londoners know where you're really from! Watered down beer? Have you tried Newcy Brown?
Southerners don't even know that Newcastle Brown is an ale XD
On November 11 2011 07:12 UnholyRai wrote: ahh why can't this be held in london...
London is shitty and expensive.
Make sure you give a shout out to shitty and expensive London when we're supporting you at Barcraft TB.
Np, you smogfilled city of ingrates and expensive, watered down beer
You've done a good job of pretending you're not a Geordie TB, but us Londoners know where you're really from! Watered down beer? Have you tried Newcy Brown?
Southerners don't even know that Newcastle Brown is an ale XD
The Fullers brewery is 15 minutes from my house, I know what ale is :D
Newcy Brown is pond water.
Irony of UK announcement thread turning into beer debate not lost on me.
anyway this weekend is going to be sick good. gonna go to barcraft saturday i think, get a few crates in Friday and watch mlg/i44 :D
On November 15 2011 03:12 JohnnyJ wrote: For anyone going to this, I plan on streaming Providence on a nice big TV once this and the actual i44 tourney is over (if they are still doing one, which they should, last LANs final with merz and Fargo was sick). I'll post seating when its confirmed!
MLG Provi may be put on afterwards. Ill poke about when staff get in and report back for you.
On November 11 2011 07:12 UnholyRai wrote: ahh why can't this be held in london...
London is shitty and expensive.
Make sure you give a shout out to shitty and expensive London when we're supporting you at Barcraft TB.
Np, you smogfilled city of ingrates and expensive, watered down beer
You've done a good job of pretending you're not a Geordie TB, but us Londoners know where you're really from! Watered down beer? Have you tried Newcy Brown?
Southerners don't even know that Newcastle Brown is an ale XD
That's because it's not, it's discoloured urine :\/
That's because it's not, it's discoloured urine :\/
That title belongs to Fosters
I think you'll find that hasn't been discoloured at all, and is just regular urine
Maybe we should add some pink colouring and a bunch of sugar so you southern fairies will like it. Perhaps a little cocktail umbrella and some cherries
That's because it's not, it's discoloured urine :\/
That title belongs to Fosters
I think you'll find that hasn't been discoloured at all, and is just regular urine
Maybe we should add some pink colouring and a bunch of sugar so you southern fairies will like it. Perhaps a little cocktail umbrella and some cherries
Now you're talking my language
Also, i'm a lil irritated, but I won't be able to make it to the biggest deal in UK StarCraft II since ever . As much as I'd love to come, twelve hours on the train and four rail replacement buses in one day is a little too much for me to handle.
That's because it's not, it's discoloured urine :\/
That title belongs to Fosters
I think you'll find that hasn't been discoloured at all, and is just regular urine
Maybe we should add some pink colouring and a bunch of sugar so you southern fairies will like it. Perhaps a little cocktail umbrella and some cherries
Now you're talking my language
Also, i'm a lil irritated, but I won't be able to make it to the biggest deal in UK StarCraft II since ever . As much as I'd love to come, twelve hours on the train and four rail replacement buses in one day is a little too much for me to handle.
That's because it's not, it's discoloured urine :\/
That title belongs to Fosters
I think you'll find that hasn't been discoloured at all, and is just regular urine
Maybe we should add some pink colouring and a bunch of sugar so you southern fairies will like it. Perhaps a little cocktail umbrella and some cherries
Now you're talking my language
Also, i'm a lil irritated, but I won't be able to make it to the biggest deal in UK StarCraft II since ever . As much as I'd love to come, twelve hours on the train and four rail replacement buses in one day is a little too much for me to handle.
Where the balls are you coming from, Norway?
Just south of London, haha. There's been loads of engineering works going on near me recently though, and next weekend is no exception
10 hours is a massive exaggeration! I'm not going because I have to work the Sunday, but I'm still gonna be cheering on demuslim whilst I drink my strawberry daquri! (not sure if thats even spelt correctly haha!)
Its pretty sweet for us Brits, because we can watch this during the day then MLG I think a lot of the players wouldn't have fancied slogging their way through MLGs open bracket anyway.
On November 17 2011 04:20 rANDY wrote: Anyone got a time the players need to be ready to play on friday?
Here you go bro! Directly from I44's website!
Friday 18th November
11:30 – Player Briefing in the Bar area 12:30 – Sign ups close. Scheduling and Seeding begins. 14:00 – Tournament Begins. Double Elimination Round 1. 00:00 – Day 1 ends.
Saturday 19th November
10:00 – Play Resumes – Double Elimination Round 10. 18:30 – Grand Final on our Main stage.
Sunday 20th November
09:30 – Top 16 Prepare for IPL Qualifier rounds. 10:00 – IPL Qualifier begins.
On November 17 2011 04:20 rANDY wrote: Anyone got a time the players need to be ready to play on friday?
Here you go bro! Directly from I44's website!
Friday 18th November
11:30 – Player Briefing in the Bar area 12:30 – Sign ups close. Scheduling and Seeding begins. 14:00 – Tournament Begins. Double Elimination Round 1. 00:00 – Day 1 ends.
Saturday 19th November
10:00 – Play Resumes – Double Elimination Round 10. 18:30 – Grand Final on our Main stage.
Sunday 20th November
09:30 – Top 16 Prepare for IPL Qualifier rounds. 10:00 – IPL Qualifier begins.
So is the only person that qualifies for IPL 4 the winner of this event? Did they also only take the No. 1 spot from the Pacific qualifier? If so, this is one hell of a tough tourney to get into. The players will definitely deserve it.
I wonder what the prize-pool for the main event is going to be and how many qualifiers they're going to have. Are there going to be players seeded into the tournament from IPL3? Have they even released any info about the main event yet?
I wonder how the i44s bandwidth will handle all the SC players watching MLG later on? Anyone know if they are planing on putting the stream up on a big screen?
On November 17 2011 18:40 Blacktion wrote: I wonder how the i44s bandwidth will handle all the SC players watching MLG later on? Anyone know if they are planing on putting the stream up on a big screen?
Ye, we have a 14 ft. screen in the main arena for all the spectators to enjoy.
On November 11 2011 07:12 UnholyRai wrote: ahh why can't this be held in london...
London is shitty and expensive.
Make sure you give a shout out to shitty and expensive London when we're supporting you at Barcraft TB.
Np, you smogfilled city of ingrates and expensive, watered down beer
You've done a good job of pretending you're not a Geordie TB, but us Londoners know where you're really from! Watered down beer? Have you tried Newcy Brown?
Southerners don't even know that Newcastle Brown is an ale XD
I'm insulted! I'm a southerner and I've known what a bottle of dog is for years!
On November 18 2011 03:41 MrSnibbles wrote: Is the finals stage in the same place that it was in at i43?
They've switched the layout around. The exbo hall is now hall 2 which is closed atm. The main stage is where hall 1 was last time. Probably because all the construction work is finished this time around.
Would it be possible to just come for the Sundays event? And is there tickets still available? Never seen a big LAN this close to me even though it's 2 hours away :p
On November 18 2011 03:31 cklrkzk wrote: MVPTAiLS will win this one.
As a Ryung fan,i can say his TvP is awful...
same tails that stephano easily beat 4-1 ?
lol @ thinking online results mean anything, especially between Korea and any foreign server.
Jetlag is worse than actual lag. A completely level playing field is really hard to come by but part of winning is overcoming that. I really don't like people trying to take away players' results by blaming something.
On November 18 2011 08:49 nVusPip wrote: Would it be possible to just come for the Sundays event? And is there tickets still available? Never seen a big LAN this close to me even though it's 2 hours away :p
I've bought a spectators pass for Sunday. I'll be driving down there for 10am. I think £5 is a really great price!
Update on the Player List for this weekends invited players, unfortunately due to reasons beyond there control Alt.ClouD and col.Minigun can not attend the i44 IPL4 Qualifiers. But do not fear IPL fans because Dignitas Bishu and Dignitas DreAm are stepping in to fill the two spots available for the 16 player invites/qualifiers. Get yourselves ready the competition just staked up another notch! Have a great weekend everyone, Enjoy!
On November 19 2011 00:58 TotalBiscuit wrote: Ryung and Tails got detained at UK border, but they have now been released, good news. I believe Lilsusie was responsible for sorting it out.
Thank god! We don't need Ryung and TAiLS to end up not making the event they're favorites to win XD
So this is where all the major EU players are! :D :D
Really unfortunate timing for the tournament, this will get completely overlooked. This lineup and prizepool would be a headliner on pretty much any other weekend.
On November 19 2011 01:25 Bobster wrote: So this is where all the major EU players are! :D :D
Really unfortunate timing for the tournament, this will get completely overlooked. This lineup and prizepool would be a headliner on pretty much any other weekend.
It's an IPL event, on a weekend, that runs before (not during) MLG, it's going to do well. Sure, it might run at about the same time GSL for those in North America but as people wake up it's going to grab viewers like a flytrap. I would guess at 40k for the finals.
On November 19 2011 03:16 mvtaylor wrote: yeah, rANDY tearing up the BYOC section
(I have no idea )
Gotta play him next in the Winners RO8. Already qualified for IPL4 so just playing for seeding now! :D
Sweet, best of luck! I always feel I should try and understand the UK high level scene but past DeMu I know nothing... maybe i'll give it a go once I get out of Platinum
just out of interest is there any prize money at all for this bit of the tourney? I asked earlier but no response... bit of a shitter if you get no money even for winning this then get Stephano first round of the next thing and so get nothing from that tourney also...
On November 19 2011 04:53 mvtaylor wrote: Unlucky Pughy...
just out of interest is there any prize money at all for this bit of the tourney? I asked earlier but no response... bit of a shitter if you get no money even for winning this then get Stephano first round of the next thing and so get nothing from that tourney also...
you get nothing!!! only abetter seed oh and recognition
On November 19 2011 01:25 Bobster wrote: So this is where all the major EU players are! :D :D
Really unfortunate timing for the tournament, this will get completely overlooked. This lineup and prizepool would be a headliner on pretty much any other weekend.
It's an IPL event, on a weekend, that runs before (not during) MLG, it's going to do well. Sure, it might run at about the same time GSL for those in North America but as people wake up it's going to grab viewers like a flytrap. I would guess at 40k for the finals.
Not sure about that, because I don't know how many people will watch this during the day when they know MLG will be on later.
But I certainly hope it does well! Lineup and prize pool deserve it.
On November 19 2011 19:10 mvtaylor wrote: Apollo, please tell TB to top saying in the X trunks... pretty please?
Oh shut up. Ban every other caster's catchphrases if you're going to whine about this one.
If I were a unit, I'd be a ForumLurker
I really don't get why you bother lurking around in every LR of tournies you're casting. And why do you always answer back to naysayers? It's not like you're gonna change their mind of do any difference. Ego I guess lol. Gj casting.
On November 19 2011 19:10 mvtaylor wrote: Apollo, please tell TB to top saying in the X trunks... pretty please?
Oh shut up. Ban every other caster's catchphrases if you're going to whine about this one.
If I were a unit, I'd be a ForumLurker
I really don't get why you bother lurking around in every LR of tournies you're casting. And why do you always answer back to naysayers? It's not like you're gonna change their mind of do any difference. Ego I guess lol. Gj casting.
Keeps the thread active plus it's something to do inbetween games :>
On November 19 2011 19:10 mvtaylor wrote: Apollo, please tell TB to top saying in the X trunks... pretty please?
Oh shut up. Ban every other caster's catchphrases if you're going to whine about this one.
If I were a unit, I'd be a ForumLurker
I really don't get why you bother lurking around in every LR of tournies you're casting. And why do you always answer back to naysayers? It's not like you're gonna change their mind of do any difference. Ego I guess lol. Gj casting.
Keeps the thread active plus it's something to do inbetween games :>
I never thought of the self marketing aspect. Makes sense that a guy that makes a living creating youtube videos knows how to use forums and what not to up his own value. Active thread, more viewers, more stuff.
This is not meant in a negative way although some may perceive it to be.
On November 19 2011 19:10 mvtaylor wrote: Apollo, please tell TB to top saying in the X trunks... pretty please?
Oh shut up. Ban every other caster's catchphrases if you're going to whine about this one.
If I were a unit, I'd be a ForumLurker
I really don't get why you bother lurking around in every LR of tournies you're casting. And why do you always answer back to naysayers? It's not like you're gonna change their mind of do any difference. Ego I guess lol. Gj casting.
Keeps the thread active plus it's something to do inbetween games :>
I never thought of the self marketing aspect. Makes sense that a guy that makes a living creating youtube videos knows how to use forums and what not to up his own value. Active thread, more viewers, more stuff.
This is not meant in a negative way although some may perceive it to be.
Nah it's fine to criticise, particularly when I have a tendency to over-react in live threads.
At this point though I'm just ribbing a fellow Brit
On November 19 2011 19:10 mvtaylor wrote: Apollo, please tell TB to top saying in the X trunks... pretty please?
Oh shut up. Ban every other caster's catchphrases if you're going to whine about this one.
Yes ban every other casters catchphrases.
I'm a huge Day[9] fan but it still annoys me when he says line them up all the time, things get repetitive. Fine do it every now and again, but every game is too much for me
It's not personally aimed at you, it's true for most casters
On November 19 2011 19:10 mvtaylor wrote: Apollo, please tell TB to top saying in the X trunks... pretty please?
Oh shut up. Ban every other caster's catchphrases if you're going to whine about this one.
Yes ban every other casters catchphrases.
I'm a huge Day[9] fan but it still annoys me when he says line them up all the time, things get repetitive. Fine do it every now and again, but every game is too much for me
It's not personally aimed at you, it's true for most casters
Consistency in introduction is as far as I'm concerned and important point of professionalism. Some people tweak out on it for some reason, I'm not really sure why that is, but every caster has their specific introduction style.
On November 19 2011 19:35 GTR wrote: why is it the insomnia lans are always at the same time as mlg?
This is something I have always been wondering :/ I wish it wasnt so that UK Starcraft could become just a little bigger because lets face it the majority of the US audience will be watching MLG but it would be better if we could hit a few of them.
And TBs X trunks is defiantly his catchphrase and its awesome
On November 19 2011 22:59 Tommylew wrote: so are these uk players left? cant remember hereingg of eithier toast or sunshine before lol
Sunshine is Belgian. THing is there's quite a few UK players going through becuse the top 16 from BYOC go in to fill out the RO32, where I imagine most of them will get eaten by the invitees. There are 3 UK players in the invitee list however, Demuslim, Lau and Bling.
Voddy had +2 +2 on ground and +1 for air on 95%, then chose to engage prior to all the upgrades into 5 thors with no surround with 2 siege tanks on both sides? :\
On November 19 2011 22:59 Tommylew wrote: so are these uk players left? cant remember hereingg of eithier toast or sunshine before lol
Sunshine is Belgian. THing is there's quite a few UK players going through becuse the top 16 from BYOC go in to fill out the RO32, where I imagine most of them will get eaten by the invitees. There are 3 UK players in the invitee list however, Demuslim, Lau and Bling.
From what I hear Multiplay has their dates set waaaaay in advance... maybe you should aim complaint to MLG
On November 20 2011 04:59 MBH wrote: What did Apollo say?
TB and Apollo spent about 10 minutes talking about how they just wanted to go home and how bs the game was. I'm not sure why Gomas did it tbh because it wasn't funny in the slightest lol.
Mad Props to Team Enigma getting so many players through the LAN Qualifier, vOddy looking awesome on his macro, Pughy gl vs DeMuslim and also best of luck to mxFive, who gets to play Stephano at 10am.
He was on 14 gas before he started hive, 21 minutes no blords, no infestors, that looked one sided but i dont think that match is a good one to view when talking about game balance if anyone is (came to the thread just to say that)
I have a spectators pass and I'm thinking of heading on down there soon (I've been lazy this morning and sitting and home with my coffee and bacon butty, watching the stream).
However, I just wanted to check - it says the later rounds are on the main stage, but are the current games being shown on a big screen somewhere at the LAN? I'm just wondering if there's a spectators area to sit and watch the current rounds.
I have a spectators pass and I'm thinking of heading on down there soon (I've been lazy this morning and sitting and home with my coffee and bacon butty, watching the stream).
However, I just wanted to check - it says the later rounds are on the main stage, but are the current games being shown on a big screen somewhere at the LAN? I'm just wondering if there's a spectators area to sit and watch the current rounds.
Apollo just said they are being shown on a (smaller) screen
... but he thought they had a bigger audience than the CoD finals
I have a spectators pass and I'm thinking of heading on down there soon (I've been lazy this morning and sitting and home with my coffee and bacon butty, watching the stream).
However, I just wanted to check - it says the later rounds are on the main stage, but are the current games being shown on a big screen somewhere at the LAN? I'm just wondering if there's a spectators area to sit and watch the current rounds.
There's alot more people watching the SC2 on the mini side stage than there is watching the CoD finals on the main stage.
I have a spectators pass and I'm thinking of heading on down there soon (I've been lazy this morning and sitting and home with my coffee and bacon butty, watching the stream).
However, I just wanted to check - it says the later rounds are on the main stage, but are the current games being shown on a big screen somewhere at the LAN? I'm just wondering if there's a spectators area to sit and watch the current rounds.
There's alot more people watching the SC2 on the mini side stage than there is watching the CoD finals on the main stage.
And yeah, there's seats.
Thanks! I'll get moving and come join the spectators
That's tragic, chances are he wanted hallucination and thought that it was researching =/ That push was so close to working, not having hallucination and the extra 50/50 was huge =(
On November 20 2011 21:24 Jehct wrote: That's tragic, chances are he wanted hallucination and thought that it was researching =/ That push was so close to working, not having hallucination and the extra 50/50 was huge =(
Well, I don't know how the scouting information would have helped him with that push at all, in fact he'd have less sentry energy to forcefield the ramp
On November 20 2011 21:24 Jehct wrote: That's tragic, chances are he wanted hallucination and thought that it was researching =/ That push was so close to working, not having hallucination and the extra 50/50 was huge =(
Well, I don't know how the scouting information would have helped him with that push at all, in fact he'd have less sentry energy to forcefield the ramp
I'm guessing he would have used halucination for some high ground warp-ins.
...Are they seriously not going to point out that Grubby sniped Stephano's main? TB can get mad at all the other mindless complaints if he likes but that's fucking awful observing =/
On November 20 2011 21:43 Jehct wrote: ...Are they seriously not going to point out that Grubby sniped Stephano's main? TB can get mad at all the other mindless complaints if he likes but that's fucking awful observing =/
k now they have shown the main and accept the fact that the Lair moved from the main to the natural haha. Anyway nice move from grubby with his dts *-*
On November 20 2011 21:56 JimPanzer wrote: I can't wait for Demuslim vs. Ryung. RYUNG HWAITING!! <3
Yeah I can't see anything other than a total Ryung roflstomp to really show DeMu how hard the Up + Downs will be for him when he decides to enter the GSL
Grubby is just being way way too sloppy. Randomly stopping phoenix production, throwing away half the phoenixes he already has, trying to go phoenix/colossus? It's not nice to watch =/
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
So how are phoenix going to beat muta's? I understand that Grubby was so far behind that it was almost an unwinnable game. But Phoenix are supposed to "Counter" Mutalisks and I can't see them doing it after watching this.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
On November 20 2011 22:16 Baituri wrote: So how are phoenix going to beat muta's? I understand that Grubby was so far behind that it was almost an unwinnable game. But Phoenix are supposed to "Counter" Mutalisks and I can't see them doing it after watching this.
You need crazy good micro. The pheonix has 1 or 2? range more than a muta and can move while shooting, to actually pull that off you could win an unwinnable situation but it's so hard to do that and macro at the same time. That's why Grubby couldn't beat the mutas, he couldn't make more at the same time as attacking in.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades, keep up with phoenix production and don't throw away your mobility with colossus you can see how good phoenix really are.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
Ryung is known as the TvT sniper, many people believe that Ryung has some of the best TvT in the world, or he did at one point. MMA and MVP seems to have surpassed him slightly know.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Baituri wrote: So how are phoenix going to beat muta's? I understand that Grubby was so far behind that it was almost an unwinnable game. But Phoenix are supposed to "Counter" Mutalisks and I can't see them doing it after watching this.
Stephano always had way more mutas than grubby had phoenixes plus I believe for a lot of the fights, Stephanos mutas were 2-0 compared to 0-0, with grubby's air attack upgrade coming after quite a number of engagements.
Stephano didn't even play well imo, but was just way ahead thanks to that poor decision from grubby at the start.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Baituri wrote: So how are phoenix going to beat muta's? I understand that Grubby was so far behind that it was almost an unwinnable game. But Phoenix are supposed to "Counter" Mutalisks and I can't see them doing it after watching this.
You need crazy good micro. The pheonix has 1 or 2? range more than a muta and can move while shooting, to actually pull that off you could win an unwinnable situation but it's so hard to do that and macro at the same time. That's why Grubby couldn't beat the mutas, he couldn't make more at the same time as attacking in.
They have one more range and you can't make a single mistake when microing them or you start to lose them too quickly, it's not a practical response due to the inability to micro that hard and macro
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
Ryung is known as the TvT sniper, many people believe that Ryung has some of the best TvT in the world, or he did at one point. MMA and MVP seems to have surpassed him slightly know.
He was like 3 GSL seasons ago, he's just gotten worse off late it seems.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Baituri wrote: So how are phoenix going to beat muta's? I understand that Grubby was so far behind that it was almost an unwinnable game. But Phoenix are supposed to "Counter" Mutalisks and I can't see them doing it after watching this.
You need crazy good micro. The pheonix has 1 or 2? range more than a muta and can move while shooting, to actually pull that off you could win an unwinnable situation but it's so hard to do that and macro at the same time. That's why Grubby couldn't beat the mutas, he couldn't make more at the same time as attacking in.
They have one more range and you can't make a single mistake when microing them or you start to lose them too quickly, it's not a practical response due to the inability to micro that hard and macro
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
Ryung is known as the TvT sniper, many people believe that Ryung has some of the best TvT in the world, or he did at one point. MMA and MVP seems to have surpassed him slightly know.
He was like 3 GSL seasons ago, he's just gotten worse off late it seems.
he's gotten worse as mech began to fall back again. he still has some of the best mech plays, as mma said
Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Jehct wrote:
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose, if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades mutas start to scale horribly and you can watch a zerg get really upset.
Going phoenix from scratch when the mutas have already popped will result in a loss 100% of the time because you can't keep up with the zerg. Colossus was obviously the wrong choice. To afford the air upgrades and ground upgrades and make multiple stargates isn't feasible with the gas available.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Jehct wrote:
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose, if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades mutas start to scale horribly and you can watch a zerg get really upset.
Going phoenix from scratch when the mutas have already popped will result in a loss 100% of the time because you can't keep up with the zerg. Colossus was obviously the wrong choice. To afford the air upgrades and ground upgrades and make multiple stargates isn't feasible with the gas available.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Unlucky
You don't need ground upgrades (unless the zerg is getting them, and then you can afford them), and he made the 2stargate transition fine, he just didn't maintain production. I really don't think it should be a viable choice if you don't see spire tech until the mutas are in your base but that game made it look very, very possible.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Are they not allowed a lunch break?
dont be so harsh, dude. he asked politely and gets such a reproachful answer.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Are they not allowed a lunch break?
Totally unacceptable! No, no of course, just didn't realize it since I don't have any sound on o-)
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Jehct wrote:
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose, if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades mutas start to scale horribly and you can watch a zerg get really upset.
Going phoenix from scratch when the mutas have already popped will result in a loss 100% of the time because you can't keep up with the zerg. Colossus was obviously the wrong choice. To afford the air upgrades and ground upgrades and make multiple stargates isn't feasible with the gas available.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Unlucky
You don't need ground upgrades (unless the zerg is getting them, and then you can afford them), and he made the 2stargate transition fine, he just didn't maintain production. I really don't think it should be a viable choice if you don't see spire tech until the mutas are in your base but that game made it look very, very possible.
Without ground upgrades stalkers do pitiful damage to mutas and you can't beat mass mass muta with pure phoenix, unless you have 400 apm and perfect mechanics. Mass mass muta has been a known problem for protoss and it still hasn't been perfectly figured out on how to fight it effectively.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Jehct wrote:
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose, if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades mutas start to scale horribly and you can watch a zerg get really upset.
Going phoenix from scratch when the mutas have already popped will result in a loss 100% of the time because you can't keep up with the zerg. Colossus was obviously the wrong choice. To afford the air upgrades and ground upgrades and make multiple stargates isn't feasible with the gas available.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Unlucky
You don't need ground upgrades (unless the zerg is getting them, and then you can afford them), and he made the 2stargate transition fine, he just didn't maintain production. I really don't think it should be a viable choice if you don't see spire tech until the mutas are in your base but that game made it look very, very possible.
Without ground upgrades stalkers do pitiful damage to mutas and you can't beat mass mass muta with pure phoenix, unless you have 400 apm and perfect mechanics.
The stalkers tank, the phoenix do more than enough damage. So long as you have stalkers to kite back to, the zerg can never, ever engage (since the mutas will auto-target stalkers as phoenix move away). With that in mind you just whittle down the muta ball with your phoenix ball.
This discussion is a bit pointless, as grubby lost nearly all his probes before (he could have GGed right there imho), so he was supposed to have twice as much stuff, in which case it would be fine.
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Jehct wrote:
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose, if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades mutas start to scale horribly and you can watch a zerg get really upset.
Going phoenix from scratch when the mutas have already popped will result in a loss 100% of the time because you can't keep up with the zerg. Colossus was obviously the wrong choice. To afford the air upgrades and ground upgrades and make multiple stargates isn't feasible with the gas available.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Unlucky
You don't need ground upgrades (unless the zerg is getting them, and then you can afford them), and he made the 2stargate transition fine, he just didn't maintain production. I really don't think it should be a viable choice if you don't see spire tech until the mutas are in your base but that game made it look very, very possible.
Without ground upgrades stalkers do pitiful damage to mutas and you can't beat mass mass muta with pure phoenix, unless you have 400 apm and perfect mechanics.
The stalkers tank, the phoenix do more than enough damage. So long as you have stalkers to kite back to the zerg can never, ever engage (since the mutas will auto-target stalkers as phoenix move away) and you should just whittle down the muta ball with your phoenix ball.
Stalkers and tank don't belong in the same sentence, stalkers are so flimsy it's not even funny. You haven't seen enough mass mass muta games if you don't think the zerg will never ever engage. Without splash it's not feasible.
On November 20 2011 22:36 Blix wrote: This discussion is a bit pointless, as grubby lost nearly all his probes before (he could have GGed right there imho), so he was supposed to have twice as much stuff, in which case it would be fine.
Oh ya, this is more about mass mas mutas vs P than the Grubby game lol
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
storm + archon is easier atleast. Phoenix can work but he stopped making them which you can't do.
Even if he kept making them you just cannot keep up, also the zerg just gets to take the map while harassing you which just lets them make mutas to phoenix at like a 3:1 rate
Also did Apollo just say Ryung has the best TvT in the world? It's pretty well known that MVP does and MMA probably being second best.
On November 20 2011 22:16 Jehct wrote:
On November 20 2011 22:13 Hierarch wrote: You need storm and archons to help fight this muta ball, phoenix are not the answer, I don't care how godly at micro you are they just die too fast
If you keep up with production and just go stalker/zealot/phoenix they can do fine against mutaling. Phoenixes do absolutely stupid damage to muta you just can't let the zerg engage. Trying to go colossus like that leaves nothing for your phoenix to fall back to =/ Not fun (not to mention it was like 3:1 muta to phoenix rofl).
Stalker/Zealot/Phoenix lose horribly to 35+ mutas, especially 2/1 mutas
The benefit of going phoenix is that you have equal mobility and can expand much more freely. Going colossus rather than blink stalker to support meant he couldn't do that. Sure, they lose, if you have 8 phoenix against 35+ 2:1 mutas with +attack upgrades. If you go armor/shield upgrades mutas start to scale horribly and you can watch a zerg get really upset.
Going phoenix from scratch when the mutas have already popped will result in a loss 100% of the time because you can't keep up with the zerg. Colossus was obviously the wrong choice. To afford the air upgrades and ground upgrades and make multiple stargates isn't feasible with the gas available.
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Unlucky
You don't need ground upgrades (unless the zerg is getting them, and then you can afford them), and he made the 2stargate transition fine, he just didn't maintain production. I really don't think it should be a viable choice if you don't see spire tech until the mutas are in your base but that game made it look very, very possible.
Without ground upgrades stalkers do pitiful damage to mutas and you can't beat mass mass muta with pure phoenix, unless you have 400 apm and perfect mechanics.
The stalkers tank, the phoenix do more than enough damage. So long as you have stalkers to kite back to the zerg can never, ever engage (since the mutas will auto-target stalkers as phoenix move away) and you should just whittle down the muta ball with your phoenix ball.
Stalkers and tank don't belong in the same sentence, stalkers are so flimsy it's not even funny. You haven't seen enough mass mass muta games if you don't think the zerg will never ever engage. Without splash it's not feasible.
On November 20 2011 22:36 Blix wrote: This discussion is a bit pointless, as grubby lost nearly all his probes before (he could have GGed right there imho), so he was supposed to have twice as much stuff, in which case it would be fine.
Oh ya, this is more about mass mas mutas vs P than the Grubby game lol
Stalkers can tank muta (they're like the worst cost-dps unit around). They don't have to tank for very long for the absolutely fucking stupid (seriously) dps of phoenixes to kill half the muta ball and force him to run. If the game actually drags out blink + muta's awful scaling against armor upgrades means he fucking has to transition no matter what, even if you never get HT's (assuming you start ground upgrades with your third).
Stalkers actually do a really decent job tanking muta, they just look like they're bad at it because their dps is so fucking awful. Pair them with something that hurts and it's solid - HT's are just really good at filling that role.
On November 20 2011 22:36 Blix wrote: This discussion is a bit pointless, as grubby lost nearly all his probes before (he could have GGed right there imho), so he was supposed to have twice as much stuff, in which case it would be fine.
yes. this. end of discussion. it is pointless to discuss balance of mutas when the game was lost after 6 minutes.
On November 20 2011 22:36 Blix wrote: This discussion is a bit pointless, as grubby lost nearly all his probes before (he could have GGed right there imho), so he was supposed to have twice as much stuff, in which case it would be fine.
yes. this. end of discussion. it is pointless to discuss balance of mutas when the game was lost after 6 minutes.
You're right, discussing ideas/strategies and their drawbacks after a game where a pretty rarely seen strategy was seen (reactive phoenix) is an awful idea. No one's talking about balance, we're talking about possible answers to mutaling (and whether it's just stalker > HT/archon or not).
On November 20 2011 22:23 Xcobidoo wrote: Ok I've tuned in twice in the last two days and both times there have been almost an hour long break, is that how it works in general or am I just unlucky when tuning in?
Are they not allowed a lunch break?
dont be so harsh, dude. he asked politely and gets such a reproachful answer.
If you think that was harsh you must lead a very sheltered life
On November 20 2011 23:28 Megatronn wrote: I wonder against that many ghosts would air units be a good answer? Doesn't seem like anything on the ground can really kill them.
Lots of collosus can, but because he showed them before he had enough to do anything with them thorzain just got too many vikings.
^-- Actually he didnt have that many vikings in the first big fight, he just melted the Zealot/archon tank so quickly that the colo didnt even have time to do damage
On November 20 2011 23:31 iAmBiGbiRd wrote: ^-- Actually he didnt have that many vikings in the first big fight, he just melted the Zealot/archon tank so quickly that the colo didnt even have time to do damage
yeah the collossus were still alive, just that everything else melted and he was able to stim forward and clean them up
I'm also wondering how BlinG 2-0'd him, thinking two very aggressive builds, but could be wrong.
Hey I'm kind of confused, where did the chinese protoss player Dream come from, he's not on the invite list and he didn't play in the pre-qualifiers according to liquipedia so how is he playing in the main bracket today?
On November 20 2011 23:34 NorthKoreaZH wrote: Hey I'm kind of confused, where did the chinese protoss player Dream come from, he's not on the invite list and he didn't play in the pre-qualifiers according to liquipedia so how is he playing in the main bracket today?
ClouD and Minigun couldn't go so DreAm and Bischu took their places.
On November 20 2011 23:34 NorthKoreaZH wrote: Hey I'm kind of confused, where did the chinese protoss player Dream come from, he's not on the invite list and he didn't play in the pre-qualifiers according to liquipedia so how is he playing in the main bracket today?
Minigun was unable to attend the IPL 4 qualifiers and was replaced by DreAm. [2]
On November 20 2011 23:29 Badfatpanda wrote: The brackets are a tad screwy and I can't find a liquipedia entry for these qualifiers, so will the winner play Dream or the loser of demu ryung?
On November 21 2011 00:00 parazice wrote: HAHA SaSe then Stephano no Terran for Ryung
But he can meet a terran from the Losers Bracket if I am not totally mistaken? I think the Liquipedia upper bracket is malformed, it should read "upper final" and not "final". Then the loser will play the Losers Bracket winner for a place in the Grand final, no?
He played really well, i haven't played for a month and i can't hear the nukes go off, i'm next to the main stage with the music :D - (didn't hear my army continuously run and die either t.t)
On November 21 2011 00:31 DeMusliM wrote: He played really well, i haven't played for a month and i can't hear the nukes go off, i'm next to the main stage with the music :D - (didn't hear my army continuously run and die either t.t)
On November 21 2011 00:31 DeMusliM wrote: He played really well, i haven't played for a month and i can't hear the nukes go off, i'm next to the main stage with the music :D - (didn't hear my army continuously run and die either t.t)
No shame in loosing too Ryung! great play, ure gunna learn alot from them in Korea!
On November 21 2011 01:26 Thezzphai wrote: Any news on the Thorzain vs Tails games? Liquipedia sais Tails won 2-0 but I didn't read anything about in in the thread and can't watch the stream.
phew, was going to say... losing to ryung pretty much expected... losing to dream wouldn't be so hot, anyway, at least he's in the money now although I can't see him beating Tails
On November 21 2011 01:26 Thezzphai wrote: Any news on the Thorzain vs Tails games? Liquipedia sais Tails won 2-0 but I didn't read anything about in in the thread and can't watch the stream.
Yeah we're pretty sure that's right.
Okay, thanks for the quick response. Sucks that Thorzain lost though.
On November 21 2011 01:49 Agathon wrote: Stream severly lagging or it's me?
Think it's just you I'm afraid.
Just in case TB is still reading this, it says that Bischu v Stephano is Lower Bracket on the scoreboard when it's not, confused me for a second there.
Yeah winnin vs grubby and going to the finals is such a bad Play! Stephano you should be ashamed of wining ! God i m FED up with this "stephano is playing poorly" thing. The only mistake he did was not going hydras
On November 21 2011 02:09 Dawg_Snow wrote: Yeah winnin vs grubby and going to the finals is such a bad Play! Stephano you should be ashamed of wining ! God i m FED up with this "stephano is playing poorly" thing. The only mistake he did was not going hydras
Edit: yeah well i saw a similar post on reddit
Your post is stupid I'm on his biggest fan it doesn't change the fact that he's playing very poorly, get real stop the blind fanboyism.
Frankly, i don't understand this game. You can play greatly, and lose immortals to drones. Then, you can win while playing like shit, getting supply blocked all the time...
On November 21 2011 02:29 legaton wrote: Frankly, i don't understand this game. You can play greatly, and lose immortals to drones. Then, you can win while playing like shit, getting supply blocked all the time...
The problem is you assuming that Bischu played like shit whereas in reality, Starcraft is about more than just mechanics. Some people get overly hung on up supply blocks and minor slips in macro yet completely ignore unit composition, strategy and good engagements, which Bischu has in spades. The sooner people realise that this real time strategy game actually involves strategy, the better off we will be.
On November 21 2011 02:29 legaton wrote: Frankly, i don't understand this game. You can play greatly, and lose immortals to drones. Then, you can win while playing like shit, getting supply blocked all the time...
The problem is you assuming that Bischu played like shit whereas in reality, Starcraft is about more than just mechanics. Some people get overly hung on up supply blocks and minor slips in macro yet completely ignore unit composition, strategy and good engagements, which Bischu has in spades. The sooner people realise that this real time strategy game actually involves strategy, the better off we will be.
Maybe, but in Broodwar, it was vital to have good mechanics, but the strategical dimension was (is) as important. But you are probably right, i was too hard saying he played like shit (he was good), getting supply capped is a minor annoyance (even if t looks bad) and doesn't change (necessarily) how the game ends. Actually, i'm surprised by Stephano's style on this tournament; he's going so roach heavy... that's not at all what he used to do.
On November 21 2011 02:48 MBH wrote: Why does Stephano have to qualifiy? Does IPL not invite the defending champion?
Would probably get an invite spot if he didn't qualify here but since this tournament has a 20k prize pool and is just over the pond it's probably worth his while
On November 21 2011 02:48 MBH wrote: Why does Stephano have to qualifiy? Does IPL not invite the defending champion?
I seem to recall him saying he's already qualified for IPL4. This is not only a qualifier, but also a tournament with prizes. Probably if someone who's already qualified for IPL4 gets first place here, the next not-yet-qualified player gets the spot.
On November 19 2011 01:25 Bobster wrote: So this is where all the major EU players are! :D :D
Really unfortunate timing for the tournament, this will get completely overlooked. This lineup and prizepool would be a headliner on pretty much any other weekend.
It's an IPL event, on a weekend, that runs before (not during) MLG, it's going to do well. Sure, it might run at about the same time GSL for those in North America but as people wake up it's going to grab viewers like a flytrap. I would guess at 40k for the finals.
Like I said, probably not going to happen. 10k on combined streams for the semis right now... MLG is eating up people's attention.
Great job by Sase so far! Stephano vs Bischu going on right now as well. :o
The fuck.... i love Stephano, i really do, but it pains me to see him playing such a boring (yet effective) style as roaches roaches roaches everywhere. Still, his early game, reading and defense is amazing, and gives him the ability to macro like crazy on the mid game. Then, it just become a slightly boring game of hammering your enemy with lots and lots of roaches.
On November 21 2011 04:58 robih wrote: im heavily disappointed about the grid on the page first it said dream beat demuslim, and then the next time i refreshed demuslim advanced
now the same happened with tails against bischu
its really unreliable and that totally sucks balls
Haha, Ryung was very cute. He waited patiently after the game was over, then when he realised no one was going to tell him what to do he tiptoed behind the casters to shake hands with BlinG.
On November 21 2011 07:16 Kub wrote: Tails vs Stephano rematch, I think will make it.
Tails lost to SaSe in the WB I think, so this isn't a rematch.
There was a Bo7 showmatch between Stephano and Tails recently, Stephano won 4-1. That was a showmatch so I can't be sure but i think he could prety easily make it.
On November 21 2011 07:13 HappyChris wrote: No Sase you had that game
Owell Tails vs Stephano final gonna be nice
Not likely. Stephano destroyed Tails in a showmatch a week or two ago. I don't see why this would be any different. Still, 5k is good for a mostly unknown code B protoss.
On November 21 2011 07:34 DOUDOU wrote: my god, mlg and i40 syncing to start finals at the exact same time now, damn you
(am i the only one that watched the multiplay countdown and heard tastosis back on stage exactly when it hit 00:00?)
watching stephano-tails anyway, it's always nice watching a zerg crushing a korean
hahaha, had ipl stream open and also tastosis casting on a different tab, got really confused when they say "OH JUST TWO SWIPES AWAY FROM KILLING IT" when tails is completely dominating stephano's natural lmao
On November 21 2011 08:07 ArnaudF wrote: Is tails qualified for IPL4?
because I assume Stephano will return as the defending champion.
Liquipedia suggests stephano doesn't get a return invite, and only winner gets an invite, but I think top 2 will qualify anyway, that's what happened in IPL3
On November 21 2011 08:07 ArnaudF wrote: Is tails qualified for IPL4?
because I assume Stephano will return as the defending champion.
Liquipedia suggests stephano doesn't get a return invite, and only winner gets an invite, but I think top 2 will qualify anyway, that's what happened in IPL3
course i know nothing
He does Stephano has allrdy qualified he is only here for the money
On November 21 2011 08:07 ArnaudF wrote: Is tails qualified for IPL4?
because I assume Stephano will return as the defending champion.
Liquipedia suggests stephano doesn't get a return invite, and only winner gets an invite, but I think top 2 will qualify anyway, that's what happened in IPL3
course i know nothing
He does Stephano has allrdy qualified he is only here for the money
Exactly, he stated on his stream that he is auto-invited.
Looking at the results, it looks like the right decision to go there for the money.
Nice play by tails, he obviously had a plan in mind and executed it perfectly, perhaps Stephano didn't remember the games of the showmatch but tails for sure did his homework
I'm actually getting scared for stephano, his play doesn't seem really solid today eventhough he had some great result, I'm afraid his confidence is shaken.
Well, other players are specifically preparing strategies against him, but he still manages to do some results, not that bad ^^ but ye, he does seem to make some sloopy moves he didn't do last month.
On November 21 2011 08:22 Jetaap wrote: I'm actually getting scared for stephano, his play doesn't seem really solid today eventhough he had some great result, I'm afraid his confidence is shaken.
Yeah, I find that his play overall is worse than in IPL3. But it's the second time (first was slayers vs millienium) I watch him losing to this strat. It seems he has not figure it out yet.
I think his confidence took a fairly big hit while losing to Goody during the Battle in Berlin tournament...it was the first time I'd seen him playing really sloppy ingame and looking vulnerable.
On November 21 2011 08:41 HappyChris wrote: Stephano wins another big lan tournament 10k dollars to he bank. Im so happy my 2 favorite players winnign tournaments Stephano and Naniwa
Yeah :D They are my favorite players too (in sc2).
On November 21 2011 08:41 mitthrawn wrote: Stephano so good. Of course people will still say is he is overrated but oh well. Well done kid!
How can they sya he is overrated when he just won another big lan tournament beating down koreans like its nothing. In 1 month he won IPL 3, ESWC and now IPL 4 UK qualifier its insane. This kid is amasing
Nice to see such a stacked tourney in the UK, everything I watched seemed to go without a hitch! hope it was as good as it looked and maybe someone else will want to sponsor the next iseries event!
On November 21 2011 08:41 mitthrawn wrote: Stephano so good. Of course people will still say is he is overrated but oh well. Well done kid!
How can they sya he is overrated when he just won another big lan tournament beating down koreans like its nothing. In 1 month he won IPL 3, ESWC and now IPL 4 UK qualifier its insane. This kid is amasing
I think stephano's a great guy, but jesus christ this tourney, while a great one, and totally deserving of every credit it gets, wasn't the hardest thing he's ever done.
His run was entirely ZvP (lmao) against MXFive, Dream, Grubby, Bischu, Sase, and Tails. While I'm not doubting any of their quality and talent, which is all present, this isn't a victory that is going to silence stephano's naysayers. Tails, while a great guy, isn't a Code S level korean. He's great, and has proven himself in the team league (once), and there's no denying his talent, but he's not puzzle or oz or any of the other proven korean tosses for example.
On November 21 2011 08:41 mitthrawn wrote: Stephano so good. Of course people will still say is he is overrated but oh well. Well done kid!
How can they sya he is overrated when he just won another big lan tournament beating down koreans like its nothing. In 1 month he won IPL 3, ESWC and now IPL 4 UK qualifier its insane. This kid is amasing
I think stephano's a great guy, but jesus christ this tourney, while a great one, and totally deserving of every credit it gets, wasn't the hardest thing he's ever done.
His run was entirely ZvP (lmao) against MXFive, Dream, Grubby, Bischu, Sase, and Tails. While I'm not doubting any of their quality and talent, which is all present, this isn't a victory that is going to silence stephano's naysayers. Tails, while a great guy, isn't a Code S level korean. He's great, and has proven himself in the team league (once), and there's no denying his talent, but he's not puzzle or oz or any of the other proven korean tosses for example.
naniwa code b beating nestea mvp drg etc. allo ? code b a s means more and more nothing
On November 21 2011 08:41 mitthrawn wrote: Stephano so good. Of course people will still say is he is overrated but oh well. Well done kid!
How can they sya he is overrated when he just won another big lan tournament beating down koreans like its nothing. In 1 month he won IPL 3, ESWC and now IPL 4 UK qualifier its insane. This kid is amasing
I think stephano's a great guy, but jesus christ this tourney, while a great one, and totally deserving of every credit it gets, wasn't the hardest thing he's ever done.
His run was entirely ZvP (lmao) against MXFive, Dream, Grubby, Bischu, Sase, and Tails. While I'm not doubting any of their quality and talent, which is all present, this isn't a victory that is going to silence stephano's naysayers. Tails, while a great guy, isn't a Code S level korean. He's great, and has proven himself in the team league (once), and there's no denying his talent, but he's not puzzle or oz or any of the other proven korean tosses for example.
He beat the players that beat the players. Not Stephanos fault Tails won vs Ryung is it?
But ok lets say he is overrated I doubt he care what people say becuase he keeps winning major lan tournaments and making shitload of money. Overrated pheww. He is doing what no other foriegner player has done before without korean training
Definitely a few very good games at the IPL - definitely want to see how Stephano will be in the next few months, so far he's definitely impressing me.
Thumbs up to TB and Apollo for casting for so many hours despite having colds. I went down to Telford and watched most of the matches live, and I really, really enjoyed it. I couldn't stay for the end unfortunately as it's a Sunday night and I have to work tomorrow.
I though the venue and setup was great. I'd definitely go again. I really hope IPL continue this partnership with Multiplay / Insomnia. I feel lucky to have had the opportunity to see such wonderful matches live in the UK.
Well played to the Multiplay staff for keeping a very high production value, TB and Apollo for casting for more than 12 hours while under the blight, and the IPL for giving them Brits a tournament they will remember for quite a while.
And of course well played to the awesome players. I'm glad we'll get to see Tails at IPL4, I really enjoyed his style.
It was an incredible experience, meeting all of these incredible players, being a part of something so huge.
When i signed up as an SC2 admin for i-series back in SC2's beta, I assumed it would just be a little tournament we hosted alongside everything else here at our events... now I have had the chance to meet people like White-Ra (he is 100% as nice as you heard he was) and organize something that I have a passion for. I really hope this is the start of something bigger, and really puts the UK SC2 scene on the map.
On November 21 2011 09:53 Kharne wrote: It was an incredible experience, meeting all of these incredible players, being a part of something so huge.
When i signed up as an SC2 admin for i-series back in SC2's beta, I assumed it would just be a little tournament we hosted alongside everything else here at our events... now I have had the chance to meet people like White-Ra (he is 100% as nice as you heard he was) and organize something that I have a passion for. I really hope this is the start of something bigger, and really puts the UK SC2 scene on the map.
<3 IPL
This^^
I've had an absolute blast this event especially hanging out with so many pro players :D
I'll do a blog or something with all the stories from this event, which are pretty crazy
Just checked the brackets... Really REALLY looks like Sase got screwed out of the finals for me. I mean, I guess I have no right to complain since for ages I complained about the extended series rule... Actually I guess overall it makes sense. Just gotta say props to him for taking down tails, ryung, and then going to game 3 against tails again.
On November 22 2011 04:57 TheDougler wrote: Just checked the brackets... Really REALLY looks like Sase got screwed out of the finals for me. I mean, I guess I have no right to complain since for ages I complained about the extended series rule... Actually I guess overall it makes sense. Just gotta say props to him for taking down tails, ryung, and then going to game 3 against tails again.
Well, if you look at the brackets after the first Tails vs Sase series, it is clear that Tails deserves to be better ranked than Sase. So yeah, this system is better than extended series.
Although, the grand final starting at 2-0 is really messed up.
Also it's clear that Stephano got an easier bracket than Sase...
On November 21 2011 09:53 Kharne wrote: It was an incredible experience, meeting all of these incredible players, being a part of something so huge.
When i signed up as an SC2 admin for i-series back in SC2's beta, I assumed it would just be a little tournament we hosted alongside everything else here at our events... now I have had the chance to meet people like White-Ra (he is 100% as nice as you heard he was) and organize something that I have a passion for. I really hope this is the start of something bigger, and really puts the UK SC2 scene on the map.
<3 IPL
This^^
I've had an absolute blast this event especially hanging out with so many pro players :D
I'll do a blog or something with all the stories from this event, which are pretty crazy
this and this.
It was such a cool event, so many super friendly players and fans. I live nearby so was able to travel there each day, but I am totally considering staying over next time to cut out the travel and soak up the atmosphere even more
Thanks a lot to all the organisers and players that made it such a good event!
The event was great, thanks!! I took lots of pictures, but as I'm not allowed to link to my page here and don't want to spam the thread with all of them, here are a few
On November 23 2011 05:40 Foxy. wrote: The event was great, thanks!! I took lots of pictures, but as I'm not allowed to link to my page here and don't want to spam the thread with all of them, here are a few
Can you PM me where i can see them all please! Great photo's
On November 23 2011 05:40 Foxy. wrote: The event was great, thanks!! I took lots of pictures, but as I'm not allowed to link to my page here and don't want to spam the thread with all of them, here are a few
Was a great event, my 2nd one. Definatly going to every one next year. Hopefully a big tournament lines up for the summer one i46 I think cause soooooo many more people were at the summer one.
On November 24 2011 03:04 Piou wrote: any way to have the replays ?
Hopefully we will!!!
I was told IPL wanted them and they aren't gna be released!
I really like IPL, but it would be an enormous marketing error not to let all the shoutcaster on youtube to give them free adversitment... well, that's maybe why MLG is more famous at the moment ... who knows
On November 24 2011 03:04 Piou wrote: any way to have the replays ?
Hopefully we will!!!
I was told IPL wanted them and they aren't gna be released!
I really like IPL, but it would be an enormous marketing error not to let all the shoutcaster on youtube to give them free adversitment... well, that's maybe why MLG is more famous at the moment ... who knows
perhaps thats why they want them, to distrubute them to certain shoutcasters
Cant see why they cant just release them after a certain period of time like MLG
Casting a ton of games today and tomorrow at 5 p.m. PST (40 min. from now) from this tournament! Some were cast previously, but some are fresh and unseen! Come take a look: http://www.ign.com/ipl
Looks like Grubby is quite the PvP sniper. He has such a world class pvp but still not quite the other matchups to go with it; I wonder if this has changed recently, or why that is.
Today's games will feature Adelscott, SaSe, DreAm, HasuObs, Stephano, Grubby, and DarKFoRcE! Starts at 5 p.m. PST (2 hours) like usual! http://www.ign.com/ipl
EPT
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