I hope SangHo improved his PvT... i remember the last time he played that foreign tournament he always did stuff like Nexus first to stop 111 and lost.

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

October 13 2011 19:28 GMT

#922

On October 14 2011 04:27 HolydaKing wrote:

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I hope SangHo improved his PvT... i remember the last time he played that foreign tournament he always did stuff like Nexus first to stop 111 and lost.

His PvT is his best match up imo, but yeah he sure loves to Nexus first

IzenHart

United Kingdom85 Posts

October 13 2011 19:29 GMT

#923

I find it interesting how ESL hosted 3 IEMs in 2 months, and after this one they'll have a break of 3 months before having the next IEM Kiev.

Caesarion

Australia8332 Posts

October 13 2011 19:29 GMT

#924

On October 14 2011 04:27 HolydaKing wrote:

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I hope SangHo improved his PvT... i remember the last time he played that foreign tournament he always did stuff like Nexus first to stop 111 and lost.

Well, he did beat Polt two times in the GSL.

justinpal

United States3810 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#925

On October 14 2011 04:29 IzenHart wrote:
I find it interesting how ESL hosted 3 IEMs in 2 months, and after this one they'll have a break of 3 months before having the next IEM Kiev.

They are just testing the endurance of BitterDam.

Nastiness

Sweden275 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#926

stargate placement disturbing gas mining.. wow.

monk

United States8476 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#927

Handsdown
2 gate expand:

As PvP develops into more macro games, many people have begun experimenting with expansion builds. However, a large number of people have also shrugged off

This is the "safest" expansion build that

Maps: One caveat of this build is that it isn't viable on all maps, only most maps. First, your map's natural has to have a choke, preferably a ramp. This allows you to easily defend from frontal attacks and more easily deny scouting of your expansion for as long as possible. The second condition is that the map has to be fairly large so that colossi all-ins are much weaker. Fortunately, almost every map in the modern map pool satisfies these conditions:
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Daybreak
Shakruas Plateau
Cross positions Antiga Shipyards
Entombed Valley
Korhal Compound
Cloud kingdom
Metropolis
Ohana
Atlantis Spaceship

Problem builds:
Warp prism 4 gate:
You have to catch the warp prism before it starts warping in units

Phoenix all-in:
A dedicated phoenix all-in will kill you

Robo blink:

1 Colossi all-in:
The can be hard depending on the map. For example, on daybreak with a very long rush distance and an easily defendable ramp vs colossi, this defense will be very easy. Other maps like antiga and entombed can be harder. Cut probes around 32-34, get up to 4 gates and a robo. Form a concave at your choke where your opponent will attack.

Sentries are still useful against this push, as you'll force the colossi to get into immortal range to stomp on forcefields as well as lower its dps by making it move around.

Not the exact build, but it's a demonstration of how an expansion build of similar timing can defend a 1 base colossi all-in.
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/67124/?set=12&lang=

Blink all-in:
The fastest, most powerful blink all-ins warp in units at 6:50 and they hit you with 9-10 stalkers. By contrast, your first immortal pops out of your robo at 7:50. Without this immortal, you cannot combat his stalkers, so you have a 60 second window where you are at the mercy of his blink stalkers. The first way to do this is to aggressively deny any proxy pylons

Huk vs Parting on Entombed Valley Game 3 @ MLG Spring Arena 1
Huk plays too greedy off of his 2 gate expand and assumes his opponent has counter exapanded. Huk takes 4 gas, gets a robo bay, and 3 extra very late gates. He gets rolled over by Parting's 1 base colossi all-in.

http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/67124
Oz vs Squirtle on Antiga Shipyards Game 2 @ GSL 2012 #2
Oz introduces a slight innovation to his build, getting a faster robo instead of faster 3rd+4th sentries. This puts him weaker to pressures, which he knows isn't coming because he already killed some units and stronger versus blink and dt builds. However, he makes the key mistake of not denying proxy pylons and loses to a blink attack. He also misreads the situation and opens observer before immortal.

Lorizean

Germany1330 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#928

On October 14 2011 04:29 IzenHart wrote:
I find it interesting how ESL hosted 3 IEMs in 2 months, and after this one they'll have a break of 3 months before having the next IEM Kiev.

I think this has to do with the business model of always hosting the IEMs at some type of event/con/whatever.

Xkalibert

United States1404 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#929

On October 14 2011 04:29 IzenHart wrote:
I find it interesting how ESL hosted 3 IEMs in 2 months, and after this one they'll have a break of 3 months before having the next IEM Kiev.

Probably have to do with tradeshow season and they attach themselves to intel tradeshow.

0ne

Spain2464 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#930

On October 14 2011 04:27 HolydaKing wrote:

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I hope SangHo improved his PvT... i remember the last time he played that foreign tournament he always did stuff like Nexus first to stop 111 and lost.

He beat Polt in this GSL, i think PvT is his best match up. He has to practice PvT a lot because he plays in code S xD.

sitromit

7051 Posts

October 13 2011 19:30 GMT

#931

He's upgrading ranged attack for Infested Terrans, Mr. Bitter..

Oboeman

Canada3980 Posts

October 13 2011 19:31 GMT

#932

he did a +2 infested terran/zergling timing attack in GSL once, and then switched right back immediately to roach/infestor

Caesarion