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Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 09 2011 01:56 GMT
#13701
On October 09 2011 10:53 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:52 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:49 Medrea wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:47 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:41 flowSthead wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 woob wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:36 Eufouria wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:30 Days wrote:
why do they pronounce puma PYUMA?


Cus that's the proper pronunciation

Same as jaguar is jag-yoo-arr

English caster, different accent, different pronunciation, our language ect. ect...

In the USA
For example: Puke
(p-yuke)
or
(pook)?
Pyuma makes sense to me :p


In my mind Puma rhymes with Uma, like Uma Therman. And this confirms it: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puma#English Whoever posted it last time misread it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_chart_for_English

To save you looking:

"u: ... through, you"

Thus: /pu:ma/ is "PYOO-mah".

Like I said, please drop it.


There is no "o" before the "u."

Also later in that article it recognizes pooma.

Those are examples of how to pronounce the character sequence "u:". The correct British English pronunciation of "puma" is "PYOO-mah". As someone else noted, the only place English is spoken, and it's pronounced "POO-mah" is north america.


What the fuck? English is spoken in more than one country lolololz


Exactly. Everyone arguing how to properly pronounce it is so freakin' retarded.
Until we hear Puma himself actually pronounce his GAMER TAG, there's no fucking discussion. Can we at least go back to 1/1/1 or Archon toilet or something? (note: GAMER TAGS may or may not be words in a dictionary context, though similar spellings may occur).
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13702
On October 09 2011 10:53 Pseudo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:45 Xxavi wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 Xxavi wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:33 Beardedclam wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:30 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
why would white ra say that when puma CLEARLY outplayed him and had way better macro


Better macro? lol

WhiteRa had his third up for a long time. Puma just got into a good position with a timing attack.

whitera was supply blocked at a crucial time and was building SIX pylons at once. wtf. and his positioning made zero sense. he was positioning himself as if he was the one with all ranged units and puma had a bunch of melee units.

Forget WhiteRa game, do you think Puma outplayed Hero? Honest opinion, even setting aside the fact that Hero is your teammate.

i think hero made a lot of mistakes, especially in game three. i think people aren't able to judge who played better. they look for high difficulty strategies and tactics, i guess. but the fact is, application of good basic strategy + making less mistakes than your opponent = win.

Thanks for your answer.

Sure, Hero made mistakes, everybody does. However, Puma made plenty of them as well, in that first game, do you agree? The point here is following, you cannot make nearly as many mistakes as a Protoss, it seems. Terran has such a comeback factor that he can play like garbage for segments of game or lose a lot of units, but then, he is still back as a threat with marines. Is this a fair assessment?


Could you name the mistakes that Puma made in Game 1? Because Hero killing Puma's 3rd base and sacrificing his army (while Puma suffered minimal losses army wise) was a bad decision

As far as I am concerned, in an ideal world, that engagement which you call "sacrificing his army" shouldn't have been the way it is. An army consisting of zealots, stalkers, sentries and archons are evaporated by marines and marauders. Puma did absolutely nothing special, he just a-moved.

I would at least expect more losses from him.

Look, that was not a "mistake" by Hero. And it was not any "great play" by Puma. So yes, Puma won that game not because of great play or outplaying. If by outplaying you mean a-moving with MMM, then yes, he surely did. And he did "great" with steams.
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13703
On October 09 2011 10:54 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:54 zyzq wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:53 Cubeface wrote:
BoxeR is the bonjwa of hair.


Have you seen Bisu?

or

Jaehoon?

or PuMa...

Losira?
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13704
On October 09 2011 10:52 Beren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:52 Ertu wrote:
Is Thorzain vs Idra gonna be cast??? That's the game I wanna see the most :S

pretty sure that will be on tommorow, should be first game tommorow, followed by violet vs stephano and huk vs inori


Noooo
It's 4 am here and I stayed up to watch it :[
VonDarkmore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13705
5:30

MMA has his expo command centre completed has thrown down a reactor and his factory, Sleep scouts this with his overlord and has started his lings attacking the rocks to his third.
One who understands much displays a greater simplicity of character than one who understands little
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13706
imo getting matching player's id for tournament play should be considered blizzard tax.
teams should all invest on player's ids for different regions really. not that hard.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13707
MMA going for quad hellions... interesting
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13708
i fucking love this build on shat and meta

puma build fighting
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13709
On October 09 2011 10:56 QurtStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:54 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:53 Medrea wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:52 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:49 Medrea wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:47 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:41 flowSthead wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 woob wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:36 Eufouria wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
[quote]

Cus that's the proper pronunciation

Same as jaguar is jag-yoo-arr

English caster, different accent, different pronunciation, our language ect. ect...

In the USA
For example: Puke
(p-yuke)
or
(pook)?
Pyuma makes sense to me :p


In my mind Puma rhymes with Uma, like Uma Therman. And this confirms it: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puma#English Whoever posted it last time misread it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_chart_for_English

To save you looking:

"u: ... through, you"

Thus: /pu:ma/ is "PYOO-mah".

Like I said, please drop it.


There is no "o" before the "u."

Also later in that article it recognizes pooma.

Those are examples of how to pronounce the character sequence "u:". The correct British English pronunciation of "puma" is "PYOO-mah". As someone else noted, the only place English is spoken, and it's pronounced "POO-mah" is north america.


What the fuck? English is spoken in more than one country lolololz

you funny man.

Please troll harder.


In America we speak American


No, you speak a dumbed down version of english.
QurtStarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
United States162 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13710
On October 09 2011 10:55 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:51 QurtStarcraft wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:50 Garnet wrote:
tank marine is very hard to stop on this map (Antiga).

Its so open in the middle but the gold sorta act like the golds on xel'naga. I hate golds...



Well the difference is that you have to hold the middle position to keep your gold effectively on Antiga because the center of the map has a high ground. Xelnaga its a bit easier.


Yeah i agree.

But, generally the gold on those maps allows you to gain massive monies and be in a hugely aggressive position with the ability to put on heavy pressure.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13711
Isn't this Demuslim's build?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 09 2011 01:57 GMT
#13712
On October 09 2011 10:56 Vocal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:53 Medrea wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:52 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:49 Medrea wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:47 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:41 flowSthead wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 woob wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:36 Eufouria wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:30 Days wrote:
why do they pronounce puma PYUMA?


Cus that's the proper pronunciation

Same as jaguar is jag-yoo-arr

English caster, different accent, different pronunciation, our language ect. ect...

In the USA
For example: Puke
(p-yuke)
or
(pook)?
Pyuma makes sense to me :p


In my mind Puma rhymes with Uma, like Uma Therman. And this confirms it: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puma#English Whoever posted it last time misread it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_chart_for_English

To save you looking:

"u: ... through, you"

Thus: /pu:ma/ is "PYOO-mah".

Like I said, please drop it.


There is no "o" before the "u."

Also later in that article it recognizes pooma.

Those are examples of how to pronounce the character sequence "u:". The correct British English pronunciation of "puma" is "PYOO-mah". As someone else noted, the only place English is spoken, and it's pronounced "POO-mah" is north america.


What the fuck? English is spoken in more than one country lolololz


Exactly. Everyone arguing how to properly pronounce it is so freakin' retarded.
Until we hear Puma himself actually pronounce his GAMER TAG, there's no fucking discussion. Can we at least go back to 1/1/1 or Archon toilet or something? (note: GAMER TAGS may or may not be words in a dictionary context, though similar spellings may occur).


Please don't say "gamer tag"

Thanks
SC2 Community
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13713
BBQ
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 01:59:42
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13714
On October 09 2011 10:47 Asday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:41 flowSthead wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 woob wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:36 Eufouria wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:30 Days wrote:
why do they pronounce puma PYUMA?


Cus that's the proper pronunciation

Same as jaguar is jag-yoo-arr

English caster, different accent, different pronunciation, our language ect. ect...

In the USA
For example: Puke
(p-yuke)
or
(pook)?
Pyuma makes sense to me :p


In my mind Puma rhymes with Uma, like Uma Therman. And this confirms it: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puma#English Whoever posted it last time misread it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_chart_for_English

To save you looking:

"u: ... through, you"

Thus: /pu:ma/ is "PYOO-mah".

Like I said, please drop it.

I guess that people didn't understand what I meant. What I meant to imply was that Americans don't normally take the time to pronounce things correctly most of the time. As said in the quote above, Puma is according to the IPA pronounciation, [ˈpumɒ], or for those who can't read IPA, it roughly sounds like like pyuma. For reference you in IPA is ju.
Administrator
Pseudo-
Profile Joined February 2011
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 02:00:29
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13715
On October 09 2011 10:57 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:53 Pseudo- wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:45 Xxavi wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 Xxavi wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:33 Beardedclam wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:30 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
why would white ra say that when puma CLEARLY outplayed him and had way better macro


Better macro? lol

WhiteRa had his third up for a long time. Puma just got into a good position with a timing attack.

whitera was supply blocked at a crucial time and was building SIX pylons at once. wtf. and his positioning made zero sense. he was positioning himself as if he was the one with all ranged units and puma had a bunch of melee units.

Forget WhiteRa game, do you think Puma outplayed Hero? Honest opinion, even setting aside the fact that Hero is your teammate.

i think hero made a lot of mistakes, especially in game three. i think people aren't able to judge who played better. they look for high difficulty strategies and tactics, i guess. but the fact is, application of good basic strategy + making less mistakes than your opponent = win.

Thanks for your answer.

Sure, Hero made mistakes, everybody does. However, Puma made plenty of them as well, in that first game, do you agree? The point here is following, you cannot make nearly as many mistakes as a Protoss, it seems. Terran has such a comeback factor that he can play like garbage for segments of game or lose a lot of units, but then, he is still back as a threat with marines. Is this a fair assessment?


Could you name the mistakes that Puma made in Game 1? Because Hero killing Puma's 3rd base and sacrificing his army (while Puma suffered minimal losses army wise) was a bad decision

As far as I am concerned, in an ideal world, that engagement which you call "sacrificing his army" shouldn't have been the way it is. An army consisting of zealots, stalkers, sentries and archons are evaporated by marines and marauders. Puma did absolutely nothing special, he just a-moved.

I would at least expect more losses from him.

Look, that was not a "mistake" by Hero. And it was not any "great play" by Puma. So yes, Puma won that game not because of great play or outplaying. If by outplaying you mean a-moving with MMM, then yes, he surely did. And he did "great" with steams.


Ok, never mind, i'm done talking to silver leaguers

Oh, and you do know people can win games without outplaying their opponent? which i never stated Puma did.

And i used the word sacrifice because that is what it turned out to be. + nice job not answering the question
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 02:02:16
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13716
On October 09 2011 10:52 Asday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 10:49 Medrea wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:47 Asday wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:41 flowSthead wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:37 woob wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:36 Eufouria wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On October 09 2011 10:30 Days wrote:
why do they pronounce puma PYUMA?


Cus that's the proper pronunciation

Same as jaguar is jag-yoo-arr

English caster, different accent, different pronunciation, our language ect. ect...

In the USA
For example: Puke
(p-yuke)
or
(pook)?
Pyuma makes sense to me :p


In my mind Puma rhymes with Uma, like Uma Therman. And this confirms it: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puma#English Whoever posted it last time misread it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_chart_for_English

To save you looking:

"u: ... through, you"

Thus: /pu:ma/ is "PYOO-mah".

Like I said, please drop it.


There is no "o" before the "u."

Also later in that article it recognizes pooma.

Those are examples of how to pronounce the character sequence "u:". The correct British English pronunciation of "puma" is "PYOO-mah". As someone else noted, the only place English is spoken, and it's pronounced "POO-mah" is north america.


Australians, British People, Americans, Canadians, Americans in the South, New Zealanders, all have slightly different variants of English. Nobody has the "correct" variety. The English we speak now, in both countries, is fairly dissimilar to the English that was spoken in the 18th century when US English began to diverge from the English spoken in England.

Puma is of Quechan origin(a tribe of Native Americans who reside in Arizona). About the only person with a legitimate claim to the correct pronunciation would be someone who speaks Quechan.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13717
That's GG. Too many drones burned there/
QurtStarcraft
Profile Joined January 2011
United States162 Posts
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13718
I like the current build MMA is using its really cool. Hellion might be good
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
October 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#13719
Sleep so dead
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 09 2011 01:59 GMT
#13720
Wow never seen hellions take down an evo chamber before
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