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Remember guys; no caster bashing, balancing whining or player abuse - you guys should know this by now!
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 07 2011 21:00 GMT
#5141
On October 08 2011 05:57 kenkaze291 wrote:
wait what happened with hero? did he win his match?

EDIT: nvm just found out gonna show hero vs sleep now xD HerO fighting!


He mentionned his previous win at Dreamhack invitational, saying he was afraid of an a rematch because he thinks Hero is very good. And maybe he's scared not to be able to beat top korean protoss twice in a row in big events (he got beat by MC a few times after beating him the first time in TSL)
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France655 Posts
October 07 2011 21:00 GMT
#5142
On October 08 2011 05:57 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:52 Apom wrote:
You got it all wrong guys.

Select won the Blizzcon NA qualifier so he's a NA player.
Major won the Blizzcon LA qualifier but he's still a NA player.

Flawless logic ~~

What continent do you think mexico is in?

88% North America and 12% Central America. But that was not my point actually.
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
October 07 2011 21:00 GMT
#5143
now tl is with hero, time to bounce back
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5144
On October 08 2011 05:58 vincom2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Select have been smithed by the mighty hammer of Thorzain.

+ Show Spoiler +
smithed??

smited lol

Maybe an unintended reference to (black)smith?
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5145
On October 08 2011 05:59 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:56 Badfatpanda wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Can someone summarize what happened?Just came in.


Truck crashed, took out internet in area, matches delayed for 3-4h while BoxeR plays BW and we just got finished with the cast of the first game today ThorZain SeleCT

Basically dead internet turned out to be awesome.


Exactly this.

We got to look at the legs of an awesome and very funny lady, and watch HuK - BoxeR on BW.

I want more delays like this one :D
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5146
On October 08 2011 06:00 Apom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:57 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:52 Apom wrote:
You got it all wrong guys.

Select won the Blizzcon NA qualifier so he's a NA player.
Major won the Blizzcon LA qualifier but he's still a NA player.

Flawless logic ~~

What continent do you think mexico is in?

88% North America and 12% Central America. But that was not my point actually.


"Central America" is not a continent...
I cant stop lactating
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44614 Posts
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5147
On October 08 2011 06:00 Apom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:57 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:52 Apom wrote:
You got it all wrong guys.

Select won the Blizzcon NA qualifier so he's a NA player.
Major won the Blizzcon LA qualifier but he's still a NA player.

Flawless logic ~~

What continent do you think mexico is in?

88% North America and 12% Central America. But that was not my point actually.


omg central america isn't a continent.

Mexico is in North America. Do a frickin Google search.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5148
On October 08 2011 06:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:58 Jtom wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:57 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:52 Apom wrote:
You got it all wrong guys.

Select won the Blizzcon NA qualifier so he's a NA player.
Major won the Blizzcon LA qualifier but he's still a NA player.

Flawless logic ~~

What continent do you think mexico is in?

Not North America :S


Well you're wrong lol.

Mexico is in North America.

Lol, today I learned.
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
TidusX.Yuna
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States239 Posts
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5149
On October 08 2011 06:01 Denar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:59 forsooth wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:56 Badfatpanda wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Can someone summarize what happened?Just came in.


Truck crashed, took out internet in area, matches delayed for 3-4h while BoxeR plays BW and we just got finished with the cast of the first game today ThorZain SeleCT

Basically dead internet turned out to be awesome.


Exactly this.

We got to look at the legs of an awesome and very funny lady, and watch HuK - BoxeR on BW.

I want more delays like this one :D


Yes, IPL made the delays work wonderfully.
Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 21:05:26
October 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#5150
On October 08 2011 05:56 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:53 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:47 tree.hugger wrote:
Let's correct some mis-information okay?

SeleCT is on the same level as ThorZaIN (better micro, worse macro), but I think it's been months since SeleCT practiced on the NA server. It's a stretch to call him an NA player. QXC got much better with his stay in KR, and even his time in EU. More of an NA player but still a stretch. MajOr is good, but super predictable and now he's in KR, so he's not really an NA terran either.

Regarding zergs, saying IdrA is as good as EU zergs is hilarious, I count at least five better zergs than IdrA (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, MorroW and DIMAGA in that order) from Europe, and one (Sheth) from NA.


I disagree about the Zergs. I cannot say IdrA is WORSE or better than them, but I think it really depends on his daily play. Sometimes he's outstanding, sometimes insanely 'weak' or disappointing. Same for DIMAGA for example.

That's a fair point, DIMAGA is extremely inconsistent and terrible against certain styles. But I'd say that the first three (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret) are better than IdrA all the time, and that MorroW, Sheth, and DIMAGA usually are.


I don't know and I don't want to discuss as I think its really hard to seperate players in Starcraft 2 from each other. No one is outstanding or super constant and a game or series is easily lost. Ret for example is beastly .. but thats because he's super greedy. If he gets punished, he dies. If he doesn't, he wins.

So... all the players you named are very good and very close in skill, but all of them have their highs and downs. As I said I think its very hard to seperate all of them into different skill levels as IdrA did show amazing games vs PuMa or single series at MLG while he also did show terrible play in some other situations.

It really depends on the matchup, match, series etc... Overall that player discussion really is not doing anyone any good.
I think that used to be the case for Ret, but he's gotten much much cleverer and better at reading his opponent. I can't really tell Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret apart, and they all have different styles, it's quite neat. They're probably the top three foreigners at the moment actually.

Nothing I saw from IdrA demonstrated to me that he's solved some of the most fundamental mistakes that I think he makes with his play. He's definitely better than he was last month though. And he didn't leave some games as early as he used to, but I don't think that's improvement, per se.

On October 08 2011 05:58 1Eris1 wrote:
Ret>Idra? Really....You could make an arguement for Nerchio or Stephano, but I don't see how you think Ret is better
If you watch their games, I really don't know how you could possibly see otherwise. Ret's decision making, reads, and mechanics are all stronger right now.
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s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5151
IPL outdoing MLG in every possible way... getting to showcast matches that are ongoing.. how cool is that?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5152
Mexico is obviously in Europe.

Which makes majOr the best european zerg (and therefore the best zerg in the world).
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5153
On October 08 2011 05:59 vincom2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:57 vincom2 wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:56 BFD wrote:
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I stayed up for Hero vs Sleep

Sigh so no hero? :/


Hero vs. Sleep now, then Thorzain vs. Sleep

Oh nice! They're jumping into hero vs sleep! What's the current score?


I am pretty sure it's 1-0 with sleep being up one, however I'm not entirely sure.
vincom2
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1775 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5154
On October 08 2011 06:00 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:57 kenkaze291 wrote:
wait what happened with hero? did he win his match?

EDIT: nvm just found out gonna show hero vs sleep now xD HerO fighting!


He mentionned his previous win at Dreamhack invitational, saying he was afraid of an a rematch because he thinks Hero is very good. And maybe he's scared not to be able to beat top korean protoss twice in a row in big events (he got beat by MC a few times after beating him the first time in TSL)

Thorzain said that? Lol nah, with the current state of TvP and hero's best MU being PvZ I don't think he needs to worry. Sad but true
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 21:03:53
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5155
On October 08 2011 05:58 tree.hugger wrote:

Except it's not. Watch the players, talk to top level players, and then come back to me.



You really come off as quite ignorant here lol. You don't think we watch the players play? "talk to top level players" oh please... How many of them are fond of IdrA and his BM? Both you and the "pros" you talk to seem quite biased, just as Axslav obviously was when he stated that IdrA was better than any other zerg outside of korea (in reality he is ONE OF THE BEST outside of Korea, that doesn't make him THE BEST, there is probably no "the best" zerg outside of Korea now).

Also, seeing you quoting MTW Naruto up there obviously proves my thing about pros opinions, obviously all of them don't agree with you .
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5156
On October 08 2011 05:58 Jtom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:57 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:52 Apom wrote:
You got it all wrong guys.

Select won the Blizzcon NA qualifier so he's a NA player.
Major won the Blizzcon LA qualifier but he's still a NA player.

Flawless logic ~~

What continent do you think mexico is in?

Not North America :S

hahahahahahaha
xajukx
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada325 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5157
HerO FIGHTING!!!!
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5158
On October 08 2011 06:00 Goshdarnit wrote:
Reading other comments I just don't understand why people think dimaga is worse than the other zergs. TBH his other race match-ups may not be as strong as nerchio or stephano, and dimaga is weak vs T. BUT I am pretty sure dimaga is the best zvz foreigner zerg, he is definately better than stephano and he seems to be able to be nerchio more than he loses to him, as for idra idk tbh, but I feel dimaga is at least as good based on my bias and not being impressed by idra's decent zvz.


I think Nerchio has the best ZvZ hands down.
I may have been lucky(or unlucky depends on how you look at it) but I never seen Nerchio lose a ZvZ-series.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5159
Cool, I love me some Hero PvZ.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Srule
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada181 Posts
October 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#5160
anyone know where the open bracket thread is? I'm interested in seeing if they will cast puma.
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