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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 09:44 GMT
#1841
On October 22 2011 18:41 j0ker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:37 Azarkon wrote:
Feels like Cloud had the right idea and could have taken that map. All it'd have taken was bringing along a dozen SCVs or so for repairs with his first thors and sending his hellions into IdrA's natural, main, and third where there were no roaches while he attacked.

Course, the reason it got to that point in the first place was because of the second hellion attack that killed like 12 drones and forced IdrA to remake them instead of making roaches or more mutas.


the mutas likely still would have won if he had pulled scvs as the glaive kills them quite fast, but idra would have lost a lot more mutas. although idra still would have came out cost effective. i didnt get a look at idras main and natural, but he had enough queens and lings to prevent significant helion damage although cloud probably could have done more with them than he did. clouds mistake was attacking at that time in the first place, had he shown that push and retreated he would have forced all those mutas and had a thor count that would have rendered them quite useless. he then would have been able to secure that gold and probably win with a 200 mech push.


I don't know. Timing attacks are important against a Zerg, and looking at how IdrA dismantled him afterward I don't think Cloud could've afforded to wait till 200/200 if he could even get there. But we'll never know
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
October 22 2011 09:44 GMT
#1842
Oh god, Grubby wants to end this...

7 gate.
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ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 09:52:14
October 22 2011 09:45 GMT
#1843
both advanced anyway, just for seeding this match

Players already qualified:

MarineKing
MC
Bischu
IdrA
ThorZaiN
Grubby
Stephano
Nerchio
Socke
elfi


Players that still can qualify:

Aures / HayprO / KenZy
ClouD / Orly / Harpner
DarKFoRcE / LiveZerg
Strelok / Axlav / MoMaN
SjoW / LoWeLy
MaNa / sYz / biGs
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 22 2011 09:47 GMT
#1844
On October 22 2011 18:45 ThisGS wrote:
both advanced anyway, just for seeding this match

Very important though, especially in this tourney.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
October 22 2011 09:47 GMT
#1845
On October 22 2011 18:43 Vira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:42 Nawe wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:41 Vira wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:39 Nawe wrote:
if they played wc3 stephano could leave straight away but now idk hope grubzor will own him


Not exactly , at the end of wc3 , Stephano was the only european take often game to Grubby , so not that sure =)


I stopped following wc3 scene after 2007 but I dont think Stephano could take him series in some serious tourney. We all know who god is I was UD btw as stephano but grubby is grubby


Stephano was human...


oh yes I mistake. but I would never heard of him if my friend wasnt his manager in team. Dont compare them pls
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
October 22 2011 09:47 GMT
#1846
That was a pretty easy game for Darkforce, just came in and killing everything.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
October 22 2011 09:47 GMT
#1847
Oh my god.

I'm shaking, what an engagement.
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bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
October 22 2011 09:47 GMT
#1848
darkforce was playing pretty well, love to see a zerg actually micro his mutas to pull back weak ones. very smooth play.
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
October 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#1849
Why does TB keep saying stephano is so far behind...?
stu >)
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#1850
Yet another protoss who kills a 3rd and refuses to take his own.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
October 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#1851
On October 22 2011 18:48 greatZERG wrote:
Why does TB keep saying stephano is so far behind...?

Because he is a color caster, he is often making false call.

Grubby cutted probes, so Stephano is pretty even if not ahead.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#1852
Stephano would've been behind if Grubby had pulled back fast enough and taken a third while he was floating 800 minerals.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#1853
Doa rocking that SlayerS jersey xD

Khaldor looks super fresh for having flown in from Europe so recently.

They make a good combo actually, looking forward to having them do some Code A next season.
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
October 22 2011 09:49 GMT
#1854
Seems to me like stephano was never in any trouble this whole game
stu >)
Seany
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia114 Posts
October 22 2011 09:49 GMT
#1855
wtf is with grubby's terrible micro?

Aren't WC3 players supposed to be good at micro?

kickazs
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway540 Posts
October 22 2011 09:49 GMT
#1856
On October 22 2011 18:48 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:48 greatZERG wrote:
Why does TB keep saying stephano is so far behind...?

Because he is a color caster, he is often making false call.

Grubby cutted probes, so Stephano is pretty even if not ahead.

TB is a play-by-play, color is artosis
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
October 22 2011 09:49 GMT
#1857
On October 22 2011 18:48 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:48 greatZERG wrote:
Why does TB keep saying stephano is so far behind...?

Because he is a color caster, he is often making false call.

Grubby cutted probes, so Stephano is pretty even if not ahead.


17 to 1 harvesters lost @ 70 to 50 so I think stephano still came ahead even losing the 3rd
stu >)
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
October 22 2011 09:50 GMT
#1858
On October 22 2011 18:47 Nawe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:43 Vira wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:42 Nawe wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:41 Vira wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:39 Nawe wrote:
if they played wc3 stephano could leave straight away but now idk hope grubzor will own him


Not exactly , at the end of wc3 , Stephano was the only european take often game to Grubby , so not that sure =)


I stopped following wc3 scene after 2007 but I dont think Stephano could take him series in some serious tourney. We all know who god is I was UD btw as stephano but grubby is grubby


Stephano was human...


oh yes I mistake. but I would never heard of him if my friend wasnt his manager in team. Dont compare them pls


I didnt say Stephano is better than Grubby in wc3 or their level are even close but he just dont "leave the game straight away" in wc3 since he have a little chance.
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
October 22 2011 09:50 GMT
#1859
On October 22 2011 18:47 Nawe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:43 Vira wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:42 Nawe wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:41 Vira wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:39 Nawe wrote:
if they played wc3 stephano could leave straight away but now idk hope grubzor will own him


Not exactly , at the end of wc3 , Stephano was the only european take often game to Grubby , so not that sure =)


I stopped following wc3 scene after 2007 but I dont think Stephano could take him series in some serious tourney. We all know who god is I was UD btw as stephano but grubby is grubby


Stephano was human...


oh yes I mistake. but I would never heard of him if my friend wasnt his manager in team. Dont compare them pls


???
Stephano was known as Minitod since he surprised by crushing some very good players with his human...
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
October 22 2011 09:51 GMT
#1860
On October 22 2011 18:49 kickazs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 18:48 Ahelvin wrote:
On October 22 2011 18:48 greatZERG wrote:
Why does TB keep saying stephano is so far behind...?

Because he is a color caster, he is often making false call.

Grubby cutted probes, so Stephano is pretty even if not ahead.

TB is a play-by-play, color is artosis

True, English is not my native langage, my bad .
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