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MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
October 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#201
On October 02 2011 10:20 Telcontar wrote:
For fuck sakes. That was god awful. I haven't been more frustrated by a game of SC2.

That was exactly how 50% of my ZvT's look like. Except that I loose them. No Balance whine btw. Im gold lol -.-
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
October 02 2011 01:24 GMT
#202
MorroW is one of the best Zergs for a reason, and he had a good reason to starve the Terran out. I mean look at this marines raping his mutas and broodlords mid game, he could have fucking lost the game right there because marine dps is ridiculous... but he made a good choice and kinda starved out the terran instead. Dont blame him for being passive, it was a good choice of him to win the game.
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
October 02 2011 01:24 GMT
#203
On October 02 2011 10:22 Eury wrote:
This is just how Morrow plays vs Terran. According to him it is just too risky trying to go for the kill against Terrans so he just starve them out.


starving out includes not allowing his opponent to expand, which he never does

i think he's just not confident in the midgame/unaware of the ingame situation, there's been ton of similar frustrating games by morrow lately
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 01:27:20
October 02 2011 01:24 GMT
#204
On October 02 2011 10:22 Eury wrote:
This is just how Morrow plays vs Terran. According to him it is just too risky trying to go for the kill against Terrans so he just starve them out.


IMO he just doesn't know how to engage properly. He should take lessons from DRG.

On October 02 2011 10:24 Deekin[ wrote:
MorroW is one of the best Zergs for a reason, and he had a good reason to starve the Terran out. I mean look at this marines raping his mutas and broodlords mid game, he could have fucking lost the game right there because marine dps is ridiculous... but he made a good choice and kinda starved out the terran instead. Dont blame him for being passive, it was a good choice of him to win the game.


This happens because you engage on open ground, without enough infestors. Bad positioning, bad unit composition, bad battle overall. I insist, his engagements are really poor. His decision making is pretty good though, I think he realizes his problems in ZvT, and as such opts to drag the game out like that, but he could improve a lot by engaging better.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 01:24:44
October 02 2011 01:24 GMT
#205
On October 02 2011 10:23 lariat wrote:
Morrow's style ensures that he can't win more than one game because its just so taxing to play multiple one hour games :|

If you are a pro gamer i would think its pretty relaxing to just chill a game out.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
October 02 2011 01:24 GMT
#206
I tuned in the last 10 minutes, of morrw vs ryung, LOL WTF! WTF!?
runforyourllife
Profile Joined September 2010
United States73 Posts
October 02 2011 01:24 GMT
#207
i thought that was a very good and entertaining game. their army size was pretty similar it seemed to me, not that much of a blowout. ryung just had no workers, thats y his food count was so much lower
Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
October 02 2011 01:25 GMT
#208
On October 02 2011 10:24 Deekin[ wrote:
MorroW is one of the best Zergs for a reason, and he had a good reason to starve the Terran out. I mean look at this marines raping his mutas and broodlords mid game, he could have fucking lost the game right there because marine dps is ridiculous... but he made a good choice and kinda starved out the terran instead. Dont blame him for being passive, it was a good choice of him to win the game.

that only happened because morrow suicided his units, if he would have attacked with the brood in the front he would have won that engagement
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 02 2011 01:25 GMT
#209
There's safe, then there's so safe that it's actually risky. MorroW needs to find the line.
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RadicalApathy
Profile Joined September 2011
United States24 Posts
October 02 2011 01:26 GMT
#210
That was a very epic game, haha. It seems like Morrow was thinking 'okay, I've got 3/4 of the map controlled, and he's nearly mined out. Let's turtle up and starve him. Also Ultras
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
October 02 2011 01:26 GMT
#211
On October 02 2011 09:23 Antithesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 09:14 SafeAsCheese wrote:
his opponent is playing scared

Ya, he delayed his 3rd forever, althoug Ryung applied only little pressure in the early midgame.


tbh Lots is probaby a stronger tvz player than Ryung.


also, can someone recap the Hasu game for me?
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
October 02 2011 01:27 GMT
#212
On October 02 2011 10:26 icarly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 09:23 Antithesis wrote:
On October 02 2011 09:14 SafeAsCheese wrote:
his opponent is playing scared

Ya, he delayed his 3rd forever, althoug Ryung applied only little pressure in the early midgame.


tbh Lots is probaby a stronger tvz player than Ryung.


also, can someone recap the Hasu game for me?

It was a pretty good game, centered around controlling casters and mid plateau.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 02 2011 01:30 GMT
#213
On October 02 2011 10:26 icarly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 09:23 Antithesis wrote:
On October 02 2011 09:14 SafeAsCheese wrote:
his opponent is playing scared

Ya, he delayed his 3rd forever, althoug Ryung applied only little pressure in the early midgame.


tbh Lots is probaby a stronger tvz player than Ryung.


also, can someone recap the Hasu game for me?

Ryung took an early econ advantage(15CC) and then constantly pressured Hasu the entire game.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 02 2011 01:31 GMT
#214
no stim on creep? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm a Korean Terran.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
October 02 2011 01:31 GMT
#215
Ahhh! I'm never going to be able to build a drone again.

/well....a everybody heard about the drone/
/drone drone drone a drone drone drone/
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vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 01:32:57
October 02 2011 01:31 GMT
#216
On October 02 2011 10:25 Telcontar wrote:
There's safe, then there's so safe that it's actually risky. MorroW needs to find the line.

He killed/denied the expansions of ryung and that's the only thing he has to do. It's never risky if you have 4 bases, the better army and a lot ressources against a player with zero income.

If we have to blame someone for the last 10 minutes, it's Ryung.
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
October 02 2011 01:34 GMT
#217
On October 02 2011 10:24 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 10:22 Eury wrote:
This is just how Morrow plays vs Terran. According to him it is just too risky trying to go for the kill against Terrans so he just starve them out.


starving out includes not allowing his opponent to expand, which he never does

i think he's just not confident in the midgame/unaware of the ingame situation, there's been ton of similar frustrating games by morrow lately

He never allowed Ryung to expand past his third. The fourth and fifth were constantly denied.

Very solid late game by Morrow, and the first big engagement was excellent too.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 02 2011 01:35 GMT
#218
Morrow seems like he wants to bane bust that planetary.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 02 2011 01:35 GMT
#219
SO. Many. Banelings.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shemsu
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom28 Posts
October 02 2011 01:35 GMT
#220
On October 02 2011 10:31 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 10:25 Telcontar wrote:
There's safe, then there's so safe that it's actually risky. MorroW needs to find the line.

He killed/denied the expansions of ryung and that's the only thing he has to do. It's never risky if you have 4 bases, the better army and a lot ressources against a player with zero income.

If we have to blame someone for the last 10 minutes, it's Ryung.


I have to agree, containing and starving out your opponent when you have the lead is strategically the correct move. It was nice to see it pulled off against a very good player
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