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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1821
that was so bad...
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
October 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#1822
On October 05 2011 08:38 zaii wrote:
How was this not expected...


Fanboy JP sticking up for his boy. Can't blame him really.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
The Void
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany428 Posts
October 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#1823
if you wanna be pro, you have to train pro...

tyler is out
it is hard to be an atheist and deal with day9 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ also i stole this too ♞...o_O..oh..and his buddies ♚♛♜♝♟http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295038 don't trust the suits...
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 04 2011 23:42 GMT
#1824
On October 05 2011 08:26 zEnVy wrote:
Tyler is easily the worst Team Liquid player. He repeatedly makes boneheaded decisions and plays incredibly passively. Its like he throws a dart at a dartboard full of builds and then just sits his units outside his base till somebody comes and kills him.


Easilly? have you heard about Haypro?
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 04 2011 23:43 GMT
#1825
It's simple, TL needs to drop tyler and haypro and get some better players.
Dating thread on TL LUL
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
October 04 2011 23:43 GMT
#1826
Tyler needs to retire and become an honorary TL member and allow TL get a real practicing protoss to rule along side Hero
Idra White Ra Sheth DRG SaSe Thorzain GOGO!
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
October 04 2011 23:43 GMT
#1827
How out of touch does it sound when casters say: 'No one would believe that Destiny could 2-0 Tyler'?

How was that unforeseen or surprising? Like at all?

I think that what I am starting to really find appalling in a lot of casters is that they simply do not follow the scene very closely at all. Because Destiny 2-0 Tyler was really not surprising in the slightest.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 04 2011 23:43 GMT
#1828
On October 05 2011 08:42 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 08:26 zEnVy wrote:
Tyler is easily the worst Team Liquid player. He repeatedly makes boneheaded decisions and plays incredibly passively. Its like he throws a dart at a dartboard full of builds and then just sits his units outside his base till somebody comes and kills him.


Easilly? have you heard about Haypro?


dude, haypro is sick when hes on a roll


he just isnt on a roll lately
No Artosis, you are robin
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#1829
On October 05 2011 08:43 Porcelina wrote:
How out of touch does it sound when casters say: 'No one would believe that Destiny could 2-0 Tyler'?

How was that unforeseen or surprising? Like at all?

I think that what I am starting to really find appalling in a lot of casters is that they simply do not follow the scene very closely at all. Because Destiny 2-0 Tyler was really not surprising in the slightest.


I agree, it sounds like they're lying through their teeth when they say this stuff.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#1830
On October 05 2011 08:39 scatmango2 wrote:
People give Tyler too much credit. How could you ever say Tyler is favored vs ANYONE?


Maybe Incontrol??

Even then probably not.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 04 2011 23:45 GMT
#1831
On October 05 2011 08:43 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 08:42 Mentalizor wrote:
On October 05 2011 08:26 zEnVy wrote:
Tyler is easily the worst Team Liquid player. He repeatedly makes boneheaded decisions and plays incredibly passively. Its like he throws a dart at a dartboard full of builds and then just sits his units outside his base till somebody comes and kills him.


Easilly? have you heard about Haypro?


dude, haypro is sick when hes on a roll


he just isnt on a roll lately


Lately = since retail, I guess...

Since WoL started I've seen waaaaaay better play from Tyler... I'm not saying he's playing super-duper-perfect... But having seen Tyler play some godlike games earlier I can easilly understand why he's on TL... Haypro... eh...

(just as a note: TLO, Sheth, Ret, Hero are all ballers imo - even though TLO often times mixes things up for fun rather than effeciency)
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 04 2011 23:48 GMT
#1832
Oh Sheth.... You really should be staring at your mineral line quite often during the beginning, so I don't know how he didn't catch that.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Lenet
Profile Joined February 2011
United States38 Posts
October 04 2011 23:48 GMT
#1833
Is IdrA vs MajOr tonight?
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1681 Posts
October 04 2011 23:48 GMT
#1834
cmon Sheth !
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
October 04 2011 23:48 GMT
#1835
On October 05 2011 08:48 Lenet wrote:
Is IdrA vs MajOr tonight?

Nop.
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 04 2011 23:48 GMT
#1836
Oh... and just 1 thought... Yes, Destiny is playing alot - and he's good... No, Tyler isn't practicing enough... But how can you see a guy like Destiny (who's gone pro lately... he's living through stream - not a team sallery/price money) is a super favourite against a good solid player from TL, who's just a bit off lately?

Would you say Catz (not hating, just speculating) should deffo beat MC... Just because he isn't on a winstreak lately?
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
October 04 2011 23:49 GMT
#1837
Kiwi is a freaking genius.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46618 Posts
October 04 2011 23:49 GMT
#1838
Kiwikaki and Sheth... love them both... but I'm hoping Kiwi wins
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
October 04 2011 23:49 GMT
#1839
On October 05 2011 08:48 Lenet wrote:
Is IdrA vs MajOr tonight?


Only loser's bracket tonight. Both US and EU though, so ThorZain v Ret and Jinro v Naniwa coming up after this one.
Redlol
Profile Joined June 2010
United States181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 23:54:44
October 04 2011 23:52 GMT
#1840
On October 05 2011 08:45 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 08:43 Deathmanbob wrote:
On October 05 2011 08:42 Mentalizor wrote:
On October 05 2011 08:26 zEnVy wrote:
Tyler is easily the worst Team Liquid player. He repeatedly makes boneheaded decisions and plays incredibly passively. Its like he throws a dart at a dartboard full of builds and then just sits his units outside his base till somebody comes and kills him.


Easilly? have you heard about Haypro?


dude, haypro is sick when hes on a roll


he just isnt on a roll lately


Lately = since retail, I guess...

Since WoL started I've seen waaaaaay better play from Tyler... I'm not saying he's playing super-duper-perfect... But having seen Tyler play some godlike games earlier I can easilly understand why he's on TL... Haypro... eh...

(just as a note: TLO, Sheth, Ret, Hero are all ballers imo - even though TLO often times mixes things up for fun rather than effeciency)


Haypro made the GSL open tournaments, he started relatively well.
He's also played well enough at MLG to both secure and maintain group stage rankings.

His play isn't amazing by any means, but he has been lurking just under the radar as a very solid player. His personality is such that people tend to forget what he has accomplished, he'll break out eventually and people will be asking where the hell it came from.

As for Tyler being a terrible player, I disagree. His mechanics tend to be pretty decent still, his builds are usually all experimental, just like they always have been, and if you know anything about developing a build, you know that it's probably going to come out and get absolutely stomped while he continues to figure it out.
Tyler's builds have always been this way, either he dominates with something awesome, or he gets destroyed because he's playing an incomplete build. His builds as of late have all been incomplete due to the fact he's dealing with depression and probably some burn out as well.

TeamLiquid would be stupid to drop Haypro, why drop a player who's currently in the MLG group stages every tournament. Every other group stage player is part of a good team, and Haypro will get snatched up quick if TeamLiquid drops him.
While it wouldn't necessarily be stupid of TeamLiquid to drop Tyler, I get the feeling that Victor is a loyal manager, and their sponsors are too. As a result, they will stand by him while he deals with his personal issues. It wouldn't surprise me if they've begun to dial back some of the benefits he gets from being a part of TeamLiquid though, or if they will do so soon.
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