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Alright guys,

Let's have a good time tonight!!

Remember to leave all player/caster bashing, imbalance discussion, arguing, flaming, trolling, memes, etc. at the door.

Enjoy the finals!
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
September 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#3781
Haha I love how they mixed in some level of humour into this intro :D
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
September 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#3782
On September 10 2011 18:14 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 18:12 Disquiet wrote:
On September 10 2011 18:09 Dommk wrote:
On September 10 2011 18:06 Disquiet wrote:
On September 10 2011 18:00 Dommk wrote:
On September 10 2011 17:53 jmbthirteen wrote:
On September 10 2011 17:50 WesleyLok wrote:
On September 10 2011 17:39 Dommk wrote:
On September 10 2011 17:33 WesleyLok wrote:
On September 10 2011 17:22 Dommk wrote:
[quote]
Are you trolling or what? I can't tell...


5gate Warpgate Pressure has probe production behind it and hits a bit later. MKP wasn't building Probes, by the end of it when MKP had MMA down to 1 Ghost and 3 Marines he still only had 37 Probes...He had something like 12 Stalkers and a bunch of Zealots but chose to back out for fun

The very build MKP did was THE text book definition of a 6gate all-in

I'm Masters, fyi


Well I'm high level masters protoss and although I wasn't vigorously checking his probe count every second, it didn't look like an all-in to me.

And looking back on your posts on this thread, all of them are bashing MKP so I guess it doesnt really matter, you're just looking for an excuse to hate on MKP.


You are a high masters Protoss that complains about Protoss? (Just reading your post history)

Really, if you really are a "High Masters Protoss" then you should know that was a 38 Probe 6gate all-in (except with 37 Probes)...you can literally google the very build MKP did :o

Check the vods, when MKP backed out he was on 37 Probes, I checked because I wanted to see if MMA could come back 0o

I only made 4 Posts about MKP before this and the worst I said was "lol MKP could lose this"..yeah clearly hating him /rollseyes


Standard 6 gate all-in.......... With 5 gates............ And only not making probes when he was microing......... You sure know your stuff

Yeah, Dommk, you were definitely wrong. Only 5 gates were made, and MKP had 38 probes. Wolf even said it was a 5 gate right as MKP was moving into MMA's natural.


When I checked he had 37 Probes, guess he must have lost the one at his natural. But 38 Probes is the "all-in" version of a 2baes build for Protoss.

Just enough Probes to mine from 2 bases and efficiently from both mineral patches, no more no less

5gates or 6gates is just personal preference. Some like 6, others do 5, it all just depends on how much resources you want to let build up


Please stop calling it an all-in. In most cases people spout the word "all-in" all the time when its entirely not appropriate. 6pool is an all in, 2 proxy gate is an all in, pulling all your SCV's is an all in.

A 5gate is an aggressive build yes, but its not an all-in, it depends entirely on the player how much to commit, and even if you just poke and never attack with it and do absolutely no damage you are not terribly behind. A small disadvantage, yes but its hardly all-in you attack or you lose ffs. At the rate things are going soon any attack before 4 bases will be called an all in.


It is an all-in because if you don't do a lot of damage then you fall really far behind as you are only working off two gases. You don't have the gas to tech and build an army.

Against fast ghosts it absolutely has to do a TON of damage, because there is no way in hell you can defend an incoming push. Fast Ghost/Medviac is considered the counter to 5/6gate, MMA was playing just a little to greedy

Its not an all in its a timing attack ffs. Yes you are at a disadvantage because you cut econ. But you have not lost, and its entirely possible to outplay your opponent and still win.

It is a timing attack in the same way a 1-1-1 all-in is a "timing attack", in most cases even if the Protoss defends it you still have done enough damage to be in the game.

I added in why it is considered "more" all-in these days. Fast Ghost/Medivacs crush it because you have to do a LOT of damage to not die to a counter push

1-1-1 is only an all-in if you pull all your scvs. An all in is when there is NO recovery after the attack. In essence if the chances are 99% the game is going to end right now its an all in. Unless SCVs are pulled or protoss has been on 2base for a long time 1-1-1 is not an all in, often players will just bunker and try contain the protoss. Hell you can even turn around and go back home if you don't bring scvs, if the protoss is still on 1 base your expand timings will be the same.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
September 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#3783
mvp seriously looks like toadstool

it's getting worse LOL (or better)
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3784
TOP hwaiting!
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3785
MVP FIGHTING! LETS GO!
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3786
Haha Sad legend of the GSL finals!
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3787
I'm a hipster oGsTop fan(been rooting for him since he 4-0 MC after his first GSL win), anyone else?

Also I would like to see the first Code A AND Code S champion.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3788
MMA/Optimus had the best banter back-and-forth. So did MC/July.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3789
ROFL TOP so cute "MVP won the finals because he was facing jinx MKP"....
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Erionn
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1015 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3790
I am strong against players with the name Jung Hoon.

Hahaha
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3791
ahaha top is so happy :D
Romanes eunt domus
Dominico
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada678 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3792
tos is a boss, win it all!!!
Shootist
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore405 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3793
Come on MVP 4-0 this guy!
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3794
Just in case nobody posted this stuff before:
TOP will TOPple MVP.
TOP may be the 'MVP of the day' here.
MVP better be on TOP of his game today.
There's probably more but I can't come up with any.

TOP fighting!
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3795
MVP: "I want to win 4 - 0"
GomTV's staff member: "WHAT!?"

"Sad Legend of GSL Finals"

I lol'd at that.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3796
On September 10 2011 18:23 pred470r wrote:
OMG 1st TvT finals since January, but it feels like we've been seeing only TvT since January.


You're not considering the Super Tournament?
lardroom
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1017 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3797
Top coming in super excited. MVP coming in like he's going to murder someone on stage.
gehgrfhgrh
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany294 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3798
MVP looks like he is walking to the toilet after he woke up.
♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥
juzlol
Profile Joined January 2011
United States125 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3799
the english voice sounds so corny
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
September 10 2011 09:24 GMT
#3800
uh oh Top is on fire, he will take 1 game i feel!
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