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[VODS] 4v4 TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open #23 - Page 9

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Windows 7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 20:09:28
September 07 2011 20:09 GMT
#161
I have some questions.

1. Does the team captain have to play on his team?

2. The team captain can use anyone for his 4v4 team and switch up his line-up between rounds? What about between games in a Best of series?

To clarify with example, let's say I am W, and I manage Clan X. We have 8 players, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H.

W signs up as team captain. Does W have to play on his team, or can his team be A, B, C, D?

For round 1, he sends in A, B, C, D. For round 2, he can switch it up and send in F, G, C, D, right? And so on?

Same question for between games in a BoX series.

Because from this rule:

If players are missing, the team without 4 players has two options:

1. Five minutes to find a replacement player in #TLOpen


It sounds like we can use whoever we want for our team regardless of who played in it in previous rounds, with the exception that we cannot use players who are on other teams at the moment.

Also, it isn't clear whether the team captain must play on his team.

Thanks!
FC
insomdapowahouz
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada58 Posts
September 07 2011 21:24 GMT
#162
sounds cool
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
September 07 2011 23:28 GMT
#163
Awesome idea.. dont usually watch these but I will tune in
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
September 07 2011 23:30 GMT
#164
Can we name our teams?

^Very important question.
lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 05:55:09
September 08 2011 05:49 GMT
#165
On September 07 2011 14:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 14:34 lofung wrote:
btw, what is 12am or 12pm? this kind of presentation seems very confusing and retarded. couldnt you use something like 11:59 or 12:01 to avoid the confusion?

First, it says 12pm for anyone logged into the time feature, and you can click to reveal this.

Second, if you can't tell what it is right now, how does changing it to 11:59 or 12:01 help?

Third, do you really think we'd start a tournament at midnight EDT for North America? Common sense??

Typically I don't warn or ban for genuinely asking for information but your question is so beyond stupid that I can't help but do it.


yes, it still completely makes sense when people wants to start a competition over the night, starting from 23:59 Saturday to the dawn when most people is going to get a off on Sundays. there have been lan parties going through midnight and starting competitions late in the night or the nerd hours. Having times like 23:59, 11:59, 12:01 p.m. would of course put away this kind of ambiguity. 12:00 a.m. indicates nothing and it would be well improved by saying noon or midnight.

While computers and digital clocks display "12:00 a.m." and "12:00 p.m.", those notations provide no clear and unambiguous way to distinguish between midnight and noon. It is actually improper to use "a.m." and "p.m." when referring to 12:00. The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante meridiem or before noon and p.m. stands for post meridiem or after noon. Since noon is neither after noon nor before noon, and midnight can equally be twelve hours before and after noon, neither abbreviation is correct (although the length of the error is determined by the smallest unit of time — 12:00:01 p.m. would be correctly notated).

The most common ways to represent these times are, (a) to use a 24-hour clock (00:00 and 12:00, 24:00), (b) to use "12 noon" or "12 midnight", although unless the person is referring to a general time and not a specific day, "12 midnight" is still ambiguous, (c) to specify the time between two successive days or dates (Midnight Saturday/Sunday or Midnight December 14/15), and (d) to use "12:01 a.m." or "11:59 p.m." This final usage is common in the travel industry, especially train and plane schedules, to avoid confusion as to passengers' schedules.[2]


from the wikipedia.

surprisingly disappointing. even if it is unlikely to happen, there is still a chance to happen. thats why a clear use of words and definition is important.
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
September 08 2011 11:17 GMT
#166
On September 08 2011 04:55 Probe1 wrote:
Could ProTechs team register while he's banned? Good thing it was only for 2 days and he'll still have time :p

This is going to be great Thanks for organizing this guys!


Protech is going to play in this?
<3 Moonbattles
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
September 08 2011 13:57 GMT
#167
Please ban that extinction map. It's overly retarded.

Source: I am solo masters 4v4
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
KillOByte
Profile Joined February 2011
United States7 Posts
September 08 2011 14:09 GMT
#168
The fun level meter should be off the charts for this!
Manners count!
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 16:22:48
September 08 2011 16:21 GMT
#169
On September 08 2011 14:49 lofung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 14:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
On September 07 2011 14:34 lofung wrote:
btw, what is 12am or 12pm? this kind of presentation seems very confusing and retarded. couldnt you use something like 11:59 or 12:01 to avoid the confusion?

First, it says 12pm for anyone logged into the time feature, and you can click to reveal this.

Second, if you can't tell what it is right now, how does changing it to 11:59 or 12:01 help?

Third, do you really think we'd start a tournament at midnight EDT for North America? Common sense??

Typically I don't warn or ban for genuinely asking for information but your question is so beyond stupid that I can't help but do it.


yes, it still completely makes sense when people wants to start a competition over the night, starting from 23:59 Saturday to the dawn when most people is going to get a off on Sundays. there have been lan parties going through midnight and starting competitions late in the night or the nerd hours. Having times like 23:59, 11:59, 12:01 p.m. would of course put away this kind of ambiguity. 12:00 a.m. indicates nothing and it would be well improved by saying noon or midnight.

Show nested quote +
While computers and digital clocks display "12:00 a.m." and "12:00 p.m.", those notations provide no clear and unambiguous way to distinguish between midnight and noon. It is actually improper to use "a.m." and "p.m." when referring to 12:00. The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante meridiem or before noon and p.m. stands for post meridiem or after noon. Since noon is neither after noon nor before noon, and midnight can equally be twelve hours before and after noon, neither abbreviation is correct (although the length of the error is determined by the smallest unit of time — 12:00:01 p.m. would be correctly notated).

The most common ways to represent these times are, (a) to use a 24-hour clock (00:00 and 12:00, 24:00), (b) to use "12 noon" or "12 midnight", although unless the person is referring to a general time and not a specific day, "12 midnight" is still ambiguous, (c) to specify the time between two successive days or dates (Midnight Saturday/Sunday or Midnight December 14/15), and (d) to use "12:01 a.m." or "11:59 p.m." This final usage is common in the travel industry, especially train and plane schedules, to avoid confusion as to passengers' schedules.[2]


from the wikipedia.

surprisingly disappointing. even if it is unlikely to happen, there is still a chance to happen. thats why a clear use of words and definition is important.




also from wikipedia:
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (Fourth Edition, 2000) has a similar usage note on this topic: "Strictly speaking, 12 a.m. denotes midnight, and 12 p.m. denotes noon, but there is sufficient confusion over these uses to make it advisable to use 12 noon and 12 midnight where clarity is required."[14]


lawyered.


ps: advisable =/= necessary. when dealing with the general population then sure, but when trying to deal with intelligent people then 12pm is acceptable
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 08 2011 19:49 GMT
#170
Starts 18.00 CEST.

I don´t understand why the 12h clock is still in use, it´s an outdated system.

Hoping for a few macro games in-between the rushes. The synergy between races will be more interesting with all races there, so we can see a Hydra+Medivac+Mothership+Voidray combination.
:3
Th0R
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada359 Posts
September 08 2011 23:11 GMT
#171
Ill have to go as a free agent than, because I cannot find a team
Protoss Player | @ScThoR_ | www.Twitch.tv/ScThoR | Business Student and Entrepreneur
alcaras
Profile Joined July 2010
United States67 Posts
September 09 2011 12:10 GMT
#172
Rules question:
Can I stream my team's games when we're playing?
http://subcreation.net/ http://twitch.tv/alcaras/
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
September 09 2011 15:03 GMT
#173
On September 09 2011 21:10 alcaras wrote:
Rules question:
Can I stream my team's games when we're playing?


I was wondering this too, I could just put a 10 minute delay on it ><

From the rules though we arent allowed to have ANY stream up while playing
<3 Moonbattles
nucl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany15 Posts
September 09 2011 17:22 GMT
#174
Need more European teams.
Hoping to see Lillekanin's or mEtRoSG's team owning it up =)

Did I miss any good Eu teams?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
September 09 2011 17:28 GMT
#175
On September 08 2011 14:49 lofung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 14:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
On September 07 2011 14:34 lofung wrote:
btw, what is 12am or 12pm? this kind of presentation seems very confusing and retarded. couldnt you use something like 11:59 or 12:01 to avoid the confusion?

First, it says 12pm for anyone logged into the time feature, and you can click to reveal this.

Second, if you can't tell what it is right now, how does changing it to 11:59 or 12:01 help?

Third, do you really think we'd start a tournament at midnight EDT for North America? Common sense??

Typically I don't warn or ban for genuinely asking for information but your question is so beyond stupid that I can't help but do it.


yes, it still completely makes sense when people wants to start a competition over the night, starting from 23:59 Saturday to the dawn when most people is going to get a off on Sundays. there have been lan parties going through midnight and starting competitions late in the night or the nerd hours. Having times like 23:59, 11:59, 12:01 p.m. would of course put away this kind of ambiguity. 12:00 a.m. indicates nothing and it would be well improved by saying noon or midnight.

Show nested quote +
While computers and digital clocks display "12:00 a.m." and "12:00 p.m.", those notations provide no clear and unambiguous way to distinguish between midnight and noon. It is actually improper to use "a.m." and "p.m." when referring to 12:00. The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante meridiem or before noon and p.m. stands for post meridiem or after noon. Since noon is neither after noon nor before noon, and midnight can equally be twelve hours before and after noon, neither abbreviation is correct (although the length of the error is determined by the smallest unit of time — 12:00:01 p.m. would be correctly notated).

The most common ways to represent these times are, (a) to use a 24-hour clock (00:00 and 12:00, 24:00), (b) to use "12 noon" or "12 midnight", although unless the person is referring to a general time and not a specific day, "12 midnight" is still ambiguous, (c) to specify the time between two successive days or dates (Midnight Saturday/Sunday or Midnight December 14/15), and (d) to use "12:01 a.m." or "11:59 p.m." This final usage is common in the travel industry, especially train and plane schedules, to avoid confusion as to passengers' schedules.[2]


from the wikipedia.

surprisingly disappointing. even if it is unlikely to happen, there is still a chance to happen. thats why a clear use of words and definition is important.

Let's take a look at the evidence:

1. It says 12pm
2. Tournaments don't start at midnight
3. Every TL Open, all 23 of them, have been in the afternoon

Yet you still feel it is necessary to complain about the time wording being confusing.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
September 09 2011 18:11 GMT
#176
Hopefully MMX/RatZ team can take it.
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
dodelol
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands68 Posts
September 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#177
would be disappointed if nobody does 4 p 1 with cannons to maybe kill 1 but make everyone panic, rest dt rushes:D so many dt's lovely:D

to bad i don't have a na account
unifo
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada65 Posts
September 09 2011 21:16 GMT
#178
Its interesting that as of the time when I made this post, there doesn't seem to be a single korean captain listed as registered. The vast majority of the captains is predominantly North American. Note that this may change and this information listed in this paragraph may become irrelevant.

I would love to see a professional team sign up for this and show their stuff in 4v4... and better yet know if the micro/macro abilities of such players in 1v1 will make a huge difference in a team-based format... especially the madness you see in 4v4.... there is still time left for some1 from EG to join.
None
alwaid
Profile Joined October 2010
United States96 Posts
September 09 2011 22:33 GMT
#179
hah, this is going to be excellent! I love tournaments where the focus is on fun, not necessarily on perfect builds and execution. I'll probably be free agenting! gl hf everyone!
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
September 10 2011 00:08 GMT
#180
Is there going to be a stream or casting?
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