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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9221
On August 28 2011 11:00 Sithelin123 wrote:
why isn't 1-1-1 used against zerg?

Because zergs has a low tech unit that kills a lot of marines unlike protoss.

They also has an easier time getting up an early expo which means if the terran stays on one base for too long he will actually fall behind, unlike against protoss.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9222
Kiwi played it really well until the actual engagement. 1-1-1 is ridiculously strong no doubt but I think could have taken that game. Would have liked for him to delay as long as possible and then when he was ready, pull workers of his own. Army vs army+workers isn't going to end well, regardless of it being a 1-1-1 or not.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9223
On August 28 2011 11:03 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:03 mTw|NarutO wrote:
CoCa vs PuMa and it should be Bomber vs DRG right? Not Bomber vs SeleCt

Yes, I think MLG does head-to-head before map score.

From MLG site:
5. Pool Play Ranking (1st-6th) will be determined using each Player’s Record of Matches won and lost.
So Select is first
Teael
Profile Joined February 2011
United States724 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9224
On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote:
By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o



Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW.

It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.


Except maybe like... bomber
or drg...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9225
On August 28 2011 11:05 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:04 awu25 wrote:
On August 28 2011 10:59 DystopiaX wrote:
DRG BEAT HERO 2-0!!!! DRG 1st in pool!

Nope Select is, based on better record


MLG takes head to head? .. Could someone clarify things-,-;

MLG takes whoever won when they played, that guy is wrong. We cleared this up a hundred pages ago.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9226
On August 28 2011 11:05 truewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:04 klops wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 Jakkerr wrote:
The only thing left for me in this tourney is pray to god Puma doesn't win this event.

I don't want to see EG.1-1-1 in code S at all, he doesn't deserve it


how in the world does puma not deserve it.

are you even watching this tournament?

he all in's once = BURN THE WITCH?


how many games did he all-in at IEM?


last i checked, all the games i've watched yesterday and today were not from IEM.
nordlyset
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway38 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9227
Comon, all fellow terrans.. admit this tac is incedible imbalanced. I do this on ladder when i feel for a easy/free win vs toss. Its extreamly easy to exectue and extreamly hard for protoss to defend. My winerate with this tactic is superhigh, im not sure how they can patch it without damaging other matchups tought.
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9228
Anyone know what song is playing atm?
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9229
On August 28 2011 11:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:
lol@all these comments bitching about balance. sickening.

that result was due to Kiwi getting impatient and just a-moving into the siege group. Go figure. He had the middle of the map in stand-off mode, had better economy, etc...

Kiwi won't blame that loss on a build order or TERRAN IMBA!! QQ!! - He'll blame it on a poor engagement.

edit:

Especially lol'ing at all these "I no longer respect Puma as a human being" comments...rofl


Ye Kiwi should defenitly have waited for more tanks and marines so he would get stomped even harder...
MC | NesTea | Jaedong | PartinG | Liquid'HerO | MvP | Flash | White-Ra | Polt | Squirtle |
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9230
MLG website has DRG on top of group C.

Bomber vs DRG and Coca vs Puma. the four best players getting into the semi's woohoo cant wait for tomorrow :D
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9231
On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:
I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T

Do what ya gotta do to win. If there is a expliotive strategy that is allowed and damn near impossible to hold under normal cercumstances, do it. Money is on the line and like the old poker saying goes, no friends when playing.

Kiwikaki had 4 gates, a robo and stargate off of one base. That was part of the problem IMO, too much stuff for one base

In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9232
On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote:
By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o



Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW.

It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.

NaDa?
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9233
On August 28 2011 11:06 Kamikazess wrote:
It was pretty clear that Kiwi tried to trick Puma into doing the 1-1-1, hoping to hold it.

Why is it so clear?
Otori
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden164 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9234
On August 28 2011 11:04 Netsky wrote:
Imagine a world where...

...Protoss players stopped crying...

...and learned to play Starcraft 2.


quoted for truth

protoss diamond players in the thread needs to stop crying because it's getting really old. it is not unbalanced one bit. Kiwi did not counter that build and he wasnt even expecting it since he put up a nexus that he later cancelled.
MaleficOR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States315 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9235
On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him.


I highly doubt he gives a damn about your "respect" for him. Good Game Puma, Kiwi engaged that in the worst possible way but everyone just jumps to oh look 1/1/1 wins again. LR threads with people like you are a joke.
Its ihdra, like the beginning of idiot- IdrA
Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:07:47
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9236
Well, clearly these guys that are saying the only reason 1/1/1 is so strong is because P is greedily expanding... are wrong.
All in every close positions map, who cares if they know it's coming! Xel'naga caverns might as well be the new steppes of war for TvP.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9237
On August 28 2011 11:06 illsick wrote:
if TLO took just 1 game off of select, DRG would have won the group I think :'(

TLO got DQ'd against SeleCT
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9238
On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote:
By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o



Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW.

It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.


You do realize that was my point?
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
August 28 2011 02:06 GMT
#9239
On August 28 2011 11:05 Razuik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:
I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T


Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it.

I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done.



cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore .... what a baller

Yeah I'm pretty sure he never said those exact words. Were you complaining when MC was winning GSLs with 6gates almost every game PvZ?


Not those exact words but he said he thought 1-1-1 was broken and he wouldnt use it, hence his nickname conscience terran in korea, because he feels bad
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:08:19
August 28 2011 02:07 GMT
#9240
big mistake to cancel the nexus tbh, if you don't have a nexus there is no reason for terran to force the issue and try to attack you, with nexus pressure is on terran and has to make something happen quick before the nexus kicks in, and having ure army in the middle to fake engagements + phoenixes threatning to snipe banshees delays the push a lot ..

He also didn't have to engage there when all tanks were already sieged .. at least engage when some tanks are not sieged when he tries to move forward
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