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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:
1. Whining about stream 2. Bashing other games 3. Flaming other users 4. Bashing players 5. Complaining about imbalance
Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#) |
On August 28 2011 11:00 Sithelin123 wrote: why isn't 1-1-1 used against zerg? Because zergs has a low tech unit that kills a lot of marines unlike protoss.
They also has an easier time getting up an early expo which means if the terran stays on one base for too long he will actually fall behind, unlike against protoss.
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Kiwi played it really well until the actual engagement. 1-1-1 is ridiculously strong no doubt but I think could have taken that game. Would have liked for him to delay as long as possible and then when he was ready, pull workers of his own. Army vs army+workers isn't going to end well, regardless of it being a 1-1-1 or not.
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On August 28 2011 11:03 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:03 mTw|NarutO wrote: CoCa vs PuMa and it should be Bomber vs DRG right? Not Bomber vs SeleCt Yes, I think MLG does head-to-head before map score. From MLG site: 5. Pool Play Ranking (1st-6th) will be determined using each Player’s Record of Matches won and lost. So Select is first
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On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote: By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW. It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.
Except maybe like... bomber or drg...
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On August 28 2011 11:05 mTw|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:04 awu25 wrote:On August 28 2011 10:59 DystopiaX wrote: DRG BEAT HERO 2-0!!!! DRG 1st in pool! Nope Select is, based on better record MLG takes head to head? .. Could someone clarify things-,-; MLG takes whoever won when they played, that guy is wrong. We cleared this up a hundred pages ago.
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On August 28 2011 11:05 truewt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:04 klops wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 Jakkerr wrote: The only thing left for me in this tourney is pray to god Puma doesn't win this event.
I don't want to see EG.1-1-1 in code S at all, he doesn't deserve it how in the world does puma not deserve it. are you even watching this tournament? he all in's once = BURN THE WITCH? how many games did he all-in at IEM?
last i checked, all the games i've watched yesterday and today were not from IEM.
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Comon, all fellow terrans.. admit this tac is incedible imbalanced. I do this on ladder when i feel for a easy/free win vs toss. Its extreamly easy to exectue and extreamly hard for protoss to defend. My winerate with this tactic is superhigh, im not sure how they can patch it without damaging other matchups tought.
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Anyone know what song is playing atm?
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On August 28 2011 11:02 FallDownMarigold wrote: lol@all these comments bitching about balance. sickening.
that result was due to Kiwi getting impatient and just a-moving into the siege group. Go figure. He had the middle of the map in stand-off mode, had better economy, etc...
Kiwi won't blame that loss on a build order or TERRAN IMBA!! QQ!! - He'll blame it on a poor engagement.
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Especially lol'ing at all these "I no longer respect Puma as a human being" comments...rofl
Ye Kiwi should defenitly have waited for more tanks and marines so he would get stomped even harder...
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MLG website has DRG on top of group C.
Bomber vs DRG and Coca vs Puma. the four best players getting into the semi's woohoo cant wait for tomorrow :D
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On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way  (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Do what ya gotta do to win. If there is a expliotive strategy that is allowed and damn near impossible to hold under normal cercumstances, do it. Money is on the line and like the old poker saying goes, no friends when playing.
Kiwikaki had 4 gates, a robo and stargate off of one base. That was part of the problem IMO, too much stuff for one base
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On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote: By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW. It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament. NaDa?
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On August 28 2011 11:06 Kamikazess wrote: It was pretty clear that Kiwi tried to trick Puma into doing the 1-1-1, hoping to hold it. Why is it so clear?
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On August 28 2011 11:04 Netsky wrote: Imagine a world where...
...Protoss players stopped crying...
...and learned to play Starcraft 2.
quoted for truth
protoss diamond players in the thread needs to stop crying because it's getting really old. it is not unbalanced one bit. Kiwi did not counter that build and he wasnt even expecting it since he put up a nexus that he later cancelled.
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On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote: Puma just lost any respect I had for him.
I highly doubt he gives a damn about your "respect" for him. Good Game Puma, Kiwi engaged that in the worst possible way but everyone just jumps to oh look 1/1/1 wins again. LR threads with people like you are a joke.
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Well, clearly these guys that are saying the only reason 1/1/1 is so strong is because P is greedily expanding... are wrong. All in every close positions map, who cares if they know it's coming! Xel'naga caverns might as well be the new steppes of war for TvP.
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On August 28 2011 11:06 illsick wrote: if TLO took just 1 game off of select, DRG would have won the group I think :'( TLO got DQ'd against SeleCT
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On August 28 2011 11:05 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote: By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW. It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.
You do realize that was my point?
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On August 28 2011 11:05 Razuik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way  (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it. I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done. cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore ....  what a baller Yeah I'm pretty sure he never said those exact words. Were you complaining when MC was winning GSLs with 6gates almost every game PvZ?
Not those exact words but he said he thought 1-1-1 was broken and he wouldnt use it, hence his nickname conscience terran in korea, because he feels bad
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big mistake to cancel the nexus tbh, if you don't have a nexus there is no reason for terran to force the issue and try to attack you, with nexus pressure is on terran and has to make something happen quick before the nexus kicks in, and having ure army in the middle to fake engagements + phoenixes threatning to snipe banshees delays the push a lot ..
He also didn't have to engage there when all tanks were already sieged .. at least engage when some tanks are not sieged when he tries to move forward
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