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1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance
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On August 28 2011 11:01 illsick wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand. cuz so many protoss players like tyler say that safe builds (even with stargate) does well against that build but we all know that's not true
What does 1 gate expand lose to? It can hold 2 rax reactor pressure relative easily if you pull probes and dont skim on units. Even if you lose some probes, you will be ahead. You are on even footing if the terran goes for 1 rax expand, which he won't do on that map unless its on the main because of the wide expansion. Though 1 gate expand is weak to scv all ins, aren't 3 gate or 1 gate robo weak to that as well?
1 gate expand is so solid yet I see no one use it. Am I missing something that it cannot POSSIBLY hold off? I just don't see why people dont do the 1 gate expand especially since doing so always gives u a free win against 1/1/1 if played properly.
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Anybody know what's going to happen with the 3 way tie in Group A? Perhaps MLG seeding points?
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On August 28 2011 11:04 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 Jakkerr wrote:
The only thing left for me in this tourney is pray to god Puma doesn't win this event.
I don't want to see EG.1-1-1 in code S at all, he doesn't deserve it lawl at your believes, If nada or select would be someone like MC withe the 1/1/1 you would be parsing him...
I wouldn't be. I play zerg and I still think the 1-1-1 is bullshit
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On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way  (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it. I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done. cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore ....  what a baller
Did he really? Hmm, he might be even more handsome then I thought he was.
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On August 28 2011 11:04 klops wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 Jakkerr wrote:
The only thing left for me in this tourney is pray to god Puma doesn't win this event.
I don't want to see EG.1-1-1 in code S at all, he doesn't deserve it how in the world does puma not deserve it. are you even watching this tournament? he all in's once = BURN THE WITCH?
how many games did he all-in at IEM?
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On August 28 2011 11:00 WindCalibur wrote:
I really do not understand why protoss do not go 1 gate expand. It is so easy for 1 gate expand to hold a 1/1/1 yet i never see a protoss do it. I really do not understand.
Cause then you get 2rax all-in'd and die even faster.
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On August 28 2011 11:01 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Even if 1/1/1 is unstoppable, engaging when tanks are already sieged and putting bad FFs has no excuse.
...while being supply blocked all the time in G2 has.
That's EXACTLY the problem.
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On August 28 2011 11:00 Sithelin123 wrote:
why isn't 1-1-1 used against zerg?
Banshee don't accomplish anything against zerg. More marine, and medivac instead.
That's what you call a strong marine tank push. :<
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On August 28 2011 11:02 Knightess wrote:my heart just broke
Don't feel bad, Kiwi is playing great and it looks like he could be onto something. Feel good knowing that Puma was worried knowing Kiwi could beat him in a straight up game so he went for the easiest winning strat.
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actually I think he was pretty stupid to engage in the middle, he should have just kept slowing the push down now that I thinka bout it. He forced Puma to siege in middle of the map so he could have forced puma to leapfrog his tanks
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On August 28 2011 11:00 Yaotzin wrote:
Thanks Kiwi for showing us yet another method of holding a 1/1/1 that doesn't work. I guess it's useful for completeness's sake :D With proper micro that actually should work
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On August 28 2011 11:04 Jcuervo wrote:
Is it me or the crowd seem dead and theres not a lot of people at the MLG venue?
it's almost like there's a weather disaster overhead.
people without hotel rooms are going to go home so they don't get stuck.
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On August 28 2011 11:02 butchji wrote:
By the way: unrelated to the 1/1/1 build. Does anyone really think Kiwikaki is the better RTS player than PuMa? O_o
Lol, PuMa was Flash's practice partner and some other pros as well in BW.
It's not because he uses 1-1-1 that he's suddenly a piece of crap. PuMa is much more skilled RTS-wise than everybody else in this tournament.
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[QUOTE]On August 28 2011 11:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 28 2011 11:01 iCanada wrote:
Hmmm, I think Kiwi could have won that engagement if he split all the marines and let his Zealots/Immortals attack.
There you go protoss players, 1base robo/Stargate against 1-1-1, I think it should work. Especially if he were to bring some probes along... not the 15 that PuMa did, but say 5-10.[/QUOTE]
problem is, if the trade is even then terran will just do the same push in a couple minutes due to MULES. ptoss cant expand, as shown by puma vs MC, and if its 1base vs 1base T will just float to the natural. dunno why kiwi picked this map, i woulda rather seen shakuras, which would have been a great map for the stalker/collo push he had been doing..
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On August 28 2011 11:04 awu25 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 10:59 DystopiaX wrote:
DRG BEAT HERO 2-0!!!! DRG 1st in pool! Nope Select is, based on better record
They go by head to head not record.
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On August 28 2011 11:03 Jinivus wrote:
PvT is a joke. Alicia is cutting himself somewhere.
i LOL'ed hard
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On August 28 2011 11:03 HinagikUx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it. I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done. cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore .... what a baller
Yeah I'm pretty sure he never said those exact words. Were you complaining when MC was winning GSLs with 6gates almost every game PvZ?
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On August 28 2011 11:02 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 10:59 norterrible wrote:
i really dont think the phoenixes help at all. they helped delay it for a long long time. Any micro mistake by Puma lost damage to banshees and they counter banshees fairly well, lift tanks etc. Seems like a solid choice to me. A later better engagement might have stopped that
The later it gets, the worst it is for protoss. More units with better DPS/range, and more income/minute for terran.
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On August 28 2011 11:04 awu25 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 10:59 DystopiaX wrote:
DRG BEAT HERO 2-0!!!! DRG 1st in pool! Nope Select is, based on better record
MLG takes head to head? .. Could someone clarify things-,-;
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