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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
August 27 2011 22:13 GMT
#6041
What did PuMa just cancel? Something just blew up in his base and I can't figure out what it was, lol.
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
August 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#6042
On August 28 2011 07:11 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:09 fraktoasters wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:07 cilinder007 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:05 fraktoasters wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:03 0ne wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 mango_destroyer wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 Yaki wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:58 Femari wrote:
Problem with Code S is that it's not the hardest league.

Are you kidding ?

Pros have already come out and said Code A is harder.


Which pros?

How is code A supposed to be harder if the best code A players get promoted into code S?


It's so hard the best players can't even get into it!


then they're obviously not the best player.... or is logic not realy your thing ?


lol you totally didn't get it. I mean the best players like Nestea/MC.. as in they're not in Code A.. ahh wahtever... I give up.


why do you try to use sarcasm on a forum, I obviously cant know your tone of voice.....


Yeah I keep forgetting its impossible to detect sarcasm in my forum voice.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#6043
Great Snipe!!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#6044
On August 28 2011 07:13 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:09 cilinder007 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:07 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:03 Lylat wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:00 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 dog4 wrote:
Grrr was the best foreign SC1 pro by far and it wasn't even close.

Maybe in terms of success but any foreign BW pro later on would've destroyed him.



No they would not.

Stop trolling dude, first with Idra top foreign zerg and now this...


I'm very glad that you feel the need to say that you spotted a trolled successfully lol. How was Idra top SC1 foreign pro gamer? What do he do to earn that title tell me what did he do nothing. Get your facts straight before you throw out flawed knowledge like get your facts staight.


stop trolling man

Didn't see the response to my post so okay here we go.

Grrrr... didn't even use hotkeys. Oh and the game evolves. If you are telling me that IdrA with a better understanding of the game as the game had evolved would lose to dated strategies from Grrrr you must be crazy.



The best player at the end of the games lifetime is nearly always the best of all time in terms of video games. They know the game in and out. They know the best strategies. They know how to counter dated strategies. Get a time machine and grab Grrrr and IdrA from their respective points in time in Korea and watch Grrrr get wrecked because he would be so behind in strategies.


So President Obama is better than Iulius Caesar by default just because it's 2011? Stupid response by you, sorry.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6045
On August 28 2011 07:12 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:07 Aquafresh wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:55 TT1 wrote:
tsl2 = nony tsl1 = jf, jf was probably the most talented foreign sc1 player

Was he any good though? Or would random noname b-team Koreans smash him?

Random nonname b-team Koreans would smash any foreigner in in BW.

K it was a genuine question. People say Nony/Mondragon/JF etc were really good at BW but I don't get that if they're still nowhere near Koreans.


BW was a lot different. The scenes were considered completely separate. When someone says "X foreigner was really good at BW," and they're talking about someone that played after 2001-3ish it is implied they are not counting Koreans. There was no comparison. Korean BW pro's had practice regiments and infrastructure that puts even SC2 korean pro-houses to shame.

Ya this is the impression I got but wasn't sure 'cause people keep gushing about these guys as if they were genuinely good. So even the shitty b-teamers who have switched to SC2 were better at BW than any foreigner?


pretty much, the very top foreigners could take games off b-teamers, but even average A-teamers are gonna have no problem rolling over foreigners. a foreigner winning 1 game at WCG was like HOLYSHITOMGWTF amazing
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
ReacH.
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland333 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6046
Puma floating a ton of minerals for a bit there
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6047
On August 28 2011 07:12 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:07 Aquafresh wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:55 TT1 wrote:
tsl2 = nony tsl1 = jf, jf was probably the most talented foreign sc1 player

Was he any good though? Or would random noname b-team Koreans smash him?

Random nonname b-team Koreans would smash any foreigner in in BW.

K it was a genuine question. People say Nony/Mondragon/JF etc were really good at BW but I don't get that if they're still nowhere near Koreans.


BW was a lot different. The scenes were considered completely separate. When someone says "X foreigner was really good at BW," and they're talking about someone that played after 2001-3ish it is implied they are not counting Koreans. There was no comparison. Korean BW pro's had practice regiments and infrastructure that puts even SC2 korean pro-houses to shame.

Ya this is the impression I got but wasn't sure 'cause people keep gushing about these guys as if they were genuinely good. So even the shitty b-teamers who have switched to SC2 were better at BW than any foreigner?


Those "shitty" b-teams were only "shitty" compared to A-Teamers.
They would have smashed any foreigners.
wat
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6048
Nada has a nice contain but those 2 BFH are gonna wreck him.
coolyou
Profile Joined December 2010
United States958 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6049
LINE EM UP!
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6050
omg nada has no more scvs in his nat
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#6051
On August 28 2011 07:14 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:13 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:09 cilinder007 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:07 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:03 Lylat wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:00 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 dog4 wrote:
Grrr was the best foreign SC1 pro by far and it wasn't even close.

Maybe in terms of success but any foreign BW pro later on would've destroyed him.



No they would not.

Stop trolling dude, first with Idra top foreign zerg and now this...


I'm very glad that you feel the need to say that you spotted a trolled successfully lol. How was Idra top SC1 foreign pro gamer? What do he do to earn that title tell me what did he do nothing. Get your facts straight before you throw out flawed knowledge like get your facts staight.


stop trolling man

Didn't see the response to my post so okay here we go.

Grrrr... didn't even use hotkeys. Oh and the game evolves. If you are telling me that IdrA with a better understanding of the game as the game had evolved would lose to dated strategies from Grrrr you must be crazy.



The best player at the end of the games lifetime is nearly always the best of all time in terms of video games. They know the game in and out. They know the best strategies. They know how to counter dated strategies. Get a time machine and grab Grrrr and IdrA from their respective points in time in Korea and watch Grrrr get wrecked because he would be so behind in strategies.


So President Obama is better than Iulius Caesar by default just because it's 2011? Stupid response by you, sorry.

Well, a better analogy would be that the USA army would demolish the Roman legions.
vOkk
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium576 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6052
floating barrack to ennemy base, the new bm
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6053
Great air domination for Nada but god those 2 hellions doing some good work in Nadas base.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6054
sooo many scvs gone...Nada is finished
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6055
Noblesse wins 2-0 over Machine
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Minored
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil88 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6056
blue flame is OP in TvT
go ahead, make my day.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6057
Errrr :/
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45937 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6058
Nada, why so sloppy? x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6059
On August 28 2011 07:14 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:13 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:09 cilinder007 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:07 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:03 Lylat wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:00 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 dog4 wrote:
Grrr was the best foreign SC1 pro by far and it wasn't even close.

Maybe in terms of success but any foreign BW pro later on would've destroyed him.



No they would not.

Stop trolling dude, first with Idra top foreign zerg and now this...


I'm very glad that you feel the need to say that you spotted a trolled successfully lol. How was Idra top SC1 foreign pro gamer? What do he do to earn that title tell me what did he do nothing. Get your facts straight before you throw out flawed knowledge like get your facts staight.


stop trolling man

Didn't see the response to my post so okay here we go.

Grrrr... didn't even use hotkeys. Oh and the game evolves. If you are telling me that IdrA with a better understanding of the game as the game had evolved would lose to dated strategies from Grrrr you must be crazy.



The best player at the end of the games lifetime is nearly always the best of all time in terms of video games. They know the game in and out. They know the best strategies. They know how to counter dated strategies. Get a time machine and grab Grrrr and IdrA from their respective points in time in Korea and watch Grrrr get wrecked because he would be so behind in strategies.


So President Obama is better than Iulius Caesar by default just because it's 2011? Stupid response by you, sorry.

Did you read the post? I'm talking about video games specifically. I literally stated it. Learn to read bro.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#6060
On August 28 2011 07:14 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 07:13 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:09 cilinder007 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:07 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:03 Lylat wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:01 dog4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 07:00 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:59 dog4 wrote:
Grrr was the best foreign SC1 pro by far and it wasn't even close.

Maybe in terms of success but any foreign BW pro later on would've destroyed him.



No they would not.

Stop trolling dude, first with Idra top foreign zerg and now this...


I'm very glad that you feel the need to say that you spotted a trolled successfully lol. How was Idra top SC1 foreign pro gamer? What do he do to earn that title tell me what did he do nothing. Get your facts straight before you throw out flawed knowledge like get your facts staight.


stop trolling man

Didn't see the response to my post so okay here we go.

Grrrr... didn't even use hotkeys. Oh and the game evolves. If you are telling me that IdrA with a better understanding of the game as the game had evolved would lose to dated strategies from Grrrr you must be crazy.



The best player at the end of the games lifetime is nearly always the best of all time in terms of video games. They know the game in and out. They know the best strategies. They know how to counter dated strategies. Get a time machine and grab Grrrr and IdrA from their respective points in time in Korea and watch Grrrr get wrecked because he would be so behind in strategies.


So President Obama is better than Iulius Caesar by default just because it's 2011? Stupid response by you, sorry.


if you think Grrr in his prime could take a game off idra in his prime at BW, i would like to make a friendly wager..
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
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