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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5101
On August 28 2011 06:07 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:06 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:05 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
LOL HAYDER!!! HAHA oh tasteless


Hayder is his name...



Yup.


I thought he was saying "Hater", i was like wtf ?
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5102
Bomber always has such sexy builds.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5103
This announcer ...
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5104
On August 28 2011 06:08 sharktopus. wrote:
The problem for EG is that their practice consists of ladder matches on the NA server all day. Regardless of if they are in GM or Masters, they are still laddering on the NA server, which in no way prepares them to show up at a tournament and post results against top Koreans and Europeans.

There is a reason why HuK, who continues to live and practice in Korea, is the only one posting fairly strong results.

Having a team house in the US did nothing but put them all under the same roof.

uhhh, practicing against each other from time to time helps a bit too.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5105
ugh zoomed in.
twitch.tv/medrea
imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5106
On August 28 2011 06:01 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.


ur basing ur decision off of isolated shit tho man, gotta focus on their ingame skill rather than results(even tho i do agree results are extremly important aswell)

the way ur supposed to deduct how a player is better than another is by how they play, dont take the results into consideration(as hard and stupid as that might sound)


Both have one awful match up. But imo Nada's macro/positionning (this one improved a lot on the past months) still gives him an edge (and the fact tha Ret doesn't play P for their recent confrontation)
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5107
some guy in the background announces something too loud O.o
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5108
On August 28 2011 06:07 sitromit wrote:
Sigh... Are they really not going to stream TLO vs DRG?


It is safe to assume if there is any game you are really wanting to see, they won't be covering it.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Cultoviac
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:10:21
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5109
Really wonder when people will start to be realistic about Haypro. Grandmaster-material and thats it.
Achieving something in tournaments requires way more. Yes he may be a nice guy and all but that doesn´t count much in a competitive setting.
Some people pray, I just turn up the radio.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5110
On August 28 2011 06:06 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:02 Orome wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:58 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:56 Asha` wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada





Nada...for now.

So unconvincing lately, but still good enough to be considered all round stronger than Ret.


u sure? from wat i saw yesterday id give ret a 60-40 edge(skillwise)


I think all these skill comparisons are still way too shaky and volatile right now to make much sense. Ret was looking relatively mediocre for quite a while until he absolutely tore through the EU invitational, while Nada was looking extremely strong and a real contender for Code S until he got abolutely dismantled by Byun last season. Right now I would give a small edge to Ret, but that might very well change again soon.


i shit u not all the progamees predicted that ret would crush the blizzard eu before it happened, that was based off of his ingame skill that we saw from him in practice games and such.. we didnt base our decision off of tournaments results(if we used that logic than naniwa should have been the favorite)


Very few of us have inside information from practice games so all we have to base our perception of player skill on is the tournament games they play (and their streams).
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5111
haypro can actually expo a lot righte now especially since bomber is turtling
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5112
On August 28 2011 06:06 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:04 Jyvblamo wrote:
IPL 1 had no Europeans in it lol...

Also those MLG scores are practically ancient history.

And there were no top Europeans in the first two MLGs, only Socke :p


indeed. so why talking to some idra-fanboys?
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 27 2011 21:09 GMT
#5113
On August 28 2011 06:08 CEPEHDREI wrote:
After a grueling 55 minute battle Hero edges out against Slush and takes game one - 1-0! #mlg

55?!?!! Omg. Wish I could watch
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5114
Bomber with the standard 8 Depot wallin o_0
You Got The Touch
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5115
On August 28 2011 06:09 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:07 sitromit wrote:
Sigh... Are they really not going to stream TLO vs DRG?


It is safe to assume if there is any game you are really wanting to see, they won't be covering it.

Haha, true.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:11:23
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5116
On August 28 2011 06:07 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:05 Darpa wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:04 Numy wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:02 Darpa wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:53 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans


1 P HuK 1st 3rd 9th 2835
2 p KiWiKaKi 2nd 4th 11th 2445
3 P TT1 8th 14th 2nd 2360
4 T SeleCT 7th 2nd 12th 2200
5 T PainUser 17th 10th 3rd 1970
6 T drewbie 12th 5th 8th 1925
7 P Tyler 25th 6th 4th 1900
8 T Jinro - - 1st 1800
9 Z SLush 11th 7th 10th 1720
10 T qxc 9th 9th 13th 1490
11 Z IdrA - 1st 17th 1440

Winners Huk. Idra, Naniwa, Jinro (seems pretty even to me.

Liquipedia rankings for MLG last season.... 1 Euro.

IPL Champion last season - Idra

Feel free to stop spouting nonsense.


If you want to argue with him at least stop quoting results from NA only tournaments?



If you Read his post you would see that he only said NA tournaments.

Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans[/QUOTE


I see, but there aren't any tournaments with EU people are there? It's generally quite isolated. Mainly NA getting Koreans in. I'm not trying to argue anything I'm generally interested.


I wasnt really arguing that point, nor that Euros arent stronger as a group (they most definitly are). More that he was just full of crap about Euros dominating NA tournies.

That said. MLG 2010 had Ret, Nazgul, Jinro, Socke, Haypro, Sjow and TLO all played last season.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5117
oh god this is gonna get ugly
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5118
The zoom is really annoying
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5119
Classic tasteless i zoomed in and I don't even realize it >_<. God his observing is awfull.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 27 2011 21:10 GMT
#5120
Haypro has no chance to break this i think T.T
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