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On August 25 2011 00:27 Maghetti wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 00:16 cordlc wrote:
I haven't watched all the matches yet, but I've gotta say, Wolf / Doa talking about MVP like he's nothing (biggest GSL upset? wtf) really bothers me. Anyone that knew anything about the matchup would've put MVP as the clear favorite.
Nestea's ZvT is his "worst" matchup.
Meanwhile, MVP's TvZ is more or less on par with MMA, in that they simply do not lose TvZ - doubly so when they're at the top of their game (as MVP has been, just watch his recent MLG/GSL games). As Nestea was thoroughly crushed by MMA (game wasn't even close), there was really no reason to believe he'd do all that much better against MVP. I don't remember them calling it the biggest upset. You sure you heard them right? I have a hard time believing they would say something that retarded.
Yeah, they definitely did call it one of the biggest upsets. It was kind of offsetting to be honest, considering MVP's achievements and play level in general.
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On August 25 2011 00:16 Macibax wrote:
what happened to tastosis?
They're currently flying to Raleigh for MLG.
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Today has been an incredible day of Starcraft 2! Mvp! He, Top and Bomber are only true macro Terrans. His TvZ is godly!
While he does insane 2 Barracks pressure and 2 Fact Helion aggression, he gets insanely early bases. On 2 Barracks and 2 Factories he gets 4 bases. At some timings he produced up to 16 Marines.
I think Nestea played an incredible game. He should have been more decisive. I feel July would do nicely against Mvp. Nestea never attacked Mvp before Hive and Broods. At some times he could have crushed his attacks. He also needed counterattacks. At least he needed to place Spined at middle to stall before Broods. Once he got these out he lost his bases to attacks and drops. I would love a Bo7 of these guys.
Huk! Even though I love him I thought Nada beats him easily. He played insanely.
Puzzle vs Ryung is dissapointing. An insane first game and a horrible game 2. Puzzle did not play to his full strenght.
July and his baneling busts and 6 pools! I think he could come far this time!
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Huk is the new protoss hero 
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I loved MVP vs NesTea's first game. It was fun and back-and-forth, even if NesTea's midgame wasn't where it should be. I was excited to go into game two and then . . . bunker rush. Oh well, NesTea is probably the person to blame the most there, but still.
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On August 25 2011 00:51 phorian wrote:Huk is the new protoss hero
He hasn't beaten anyone good recently. Nada is slumping.
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No NesTea, my zerg hope and hero!
glad huk and july(!!!!) won at least!
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congratulations huk... that's a crazy accomplishment at this stage of the gsl
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On August 24 2011 23:19 Joey Wheeler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 23:10 zerious wrote:On August 24 2011 23:08 Joey Wheeler wrote:
I hope July cheeses MVP out of this tourney, I really hate watching MVP play his dull tvz style. Macro games is killing e-sports "i get fast third base then make big push and kill zerg" is not my definition of a fun macro game
You seem pretty upset because Kaiba kicked your ass. You should ask John to give you some lessons and take your revenge, maybe then you'll feel better.
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On August 25 2011 00:38 Nate5911 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 00:27 Maghetti wrote:On August 25 2011 00:16 cordlc wrote:
I haven't watched all the matches yet, but I've gotta say, Wolf / Doa talking about MVP like he's nothing (biggest GSL upset? wtf) really bothers me. Anyone that knew anything about the matchup would've put MVP as the clear favorite.
Nestea's ZvT is his "worst" matchup.
Meanwhile, MVP's TvZ is more or less on par with MMA, in that they simply do not lose TvZ - doubly so when they're at the top of their game (as MVP has been, just watch his recent MLG/GSL games). As Nestea was thoroughly crushed by MMA (game wasn't even close), there was really no reason to believe he'd do all that much better against MVP. I don't remember them calling it the biggest upset. You sure you heard them right? I have a hard time believing they would say something that retarded. Yeah, they definitely did call it one of the biggest upsets. It was kind of offsetting to be honest, considering MVP's achievements and play level in general.
Agreed, MVP is and has always been one of, if not the best TvZer with MMA. They have completely different styles that are both equally effective at killing zergs. MMA is probably more "spectacular" with all the drops, which is why I think people tend to think of him first as best TvZer while MVP simply sits back and shows that it is possible for a terran to match a zerg in macro.
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HuK is the awesome guy who I like
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On August 25 2011 00:38 Nate5911 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 00:27 Maghetti wrote:On August 25 2011 00:16 cordlc wrote:
I haven't watched all the matches yet, but I've gotta say, Wolf / Doa talking about MVP like he's nothing (biggest GSL upset? wtf) really bothers me. Anyone that knew anything about the matchup would've put MVP as the clear favorite.
Nestea's ZvT is his "worst" matchup.
Meanwhile, MVP's TvZ is more or less on par with MMA, in that they simply do not lose TvZ - doubly so when they're at the top of their game (as MVP has been, just watch his recent MLG/GSL games). As Nestea was thoroughly crushed by MMA (game wasn't even close), there was really no reason to believe he'd do all that much better against MVP. I don't remember them calling it the biggest upset. You sure you heard them right? I have a hard time believing they would say something that retarded. Yeah, they definitely did call it one of the biggest upsets. It was kind of offsetting to be honest, considering MVP's achievements and play level in general.
Yeah, I was prettty dumbfounded by the comment.
Artosis seems to be the only caster who knows what MVP is truly capable of.
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On August 25 2011 01:12 Louuster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 00:38 Nate5911 wrote:On August 25 2011 00:27 Maghetti wrote:On August 25 2011 00:16 cordlc wrote:
I haven't watched all the matches yet, but I've gotta say, Wolf / Doa talking about MVP like he's nothing (biggest GSL upset? wtf) really bothers me. Anyone that knew anything about the matchup would've put MVP as the clear favorite.
Nestea's ZvT is his "worst" matchup.
Meanwhile, MVP's TvZ is more or less on par with MMA, in that they simply do not lose TvZ - doubly so when they're at the top of their game (as MVP has been, just watch his recent MLG/GSL games). As Nestea was thoroughly crushed by MMA (game wasn't even close), there was really no reason to believe he'd do all that much better against MVP. I don't remember them calling it the biggest upset. You sure you heard them right? I have a hard time believing they would say something that retarded. Yeah, they definitely did call it one of the biggest upsets. It was kind of offsetting to be honest, considering MVP's achievements and play level in general. Agreed, MVP is and has always been one of, if not the best TvZer with MMA. They have completely different styles that are both equally effective at killing zergs. MMA is probably more "spectacular" with all the drops, which is why I think people tend to think of him first as best TvZer while MVP simply sits back and shows that it is possible for a terran to match a zerg in macro.
MVP has better builds TvZ, has better macro and micro and plays a more solid style. I feel MMA's style has a problem of the snowball effect, where if 2 drops fail, or you lose your tanks, you get more and more behind
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NaDa... I love u. Really, I mean there are things in the world, you cannot describe, NaDa is one of them.
But, I really think, it´s time to go. Something is missing, todays NaDa, is very sloppy. I would say he´s Code B. Every game I see him play, I want him to do great things, to dominate, but there are mistakes ( FOCUSFIRING!!!!) that I see and think, no, your nothing like before man. I didn´t follow BW, but I saw as many of his games back when he was bonjwa as I could. And seeing him now makes me so sad. But Tastosis and everyone are like, no he´s actually not that bad, see he makes it RO8-16 everytime....
He´s terrible. Next group selection, if anyone says:" I pick someone who does not belong to code S", then NaDa should be picked.
As much as I love him, it hurts to much seeing him lose. And I tell you, MLG will not be fun with NaDa. Like we saw at Assembly, any rnd "pro" can take a BO3 of him...
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On August 25 2011 01:38 GurZtly wrote:
NaDa... I love u. Really, I mean there are things in the world, you cannot describe, NaDa is one of them.
But, I really think, it´s time to go. Something is missing, todays NaDa, is very sloppy. I would say he´s Code B. Every game I see him play, I want him to do great things, to dominate, but there are mistakes ( FOCUSFIRING!!!!) that I see and think, no, your nothing like before man. I didn´t follow BW, but I saw as many of his games back when he was bonjwa as I could. And seeing him now makes me so sad. But Tastosis and everyone are like, no he´s actually not that bad, see he makes it RO8-16 everytime....
He´s terrible. Next group selection, if anyone says:" I pick someone who does not belong to code S", then NaDa should be picked.
As much as I love him, it hurts to much seeing him lose. And I tell you, MLG will not be fun with NaDa. Like we saw at Assembly, any rnd "pro" can take a BO3 of him...
"He doesn't deserve Code S" yet he wins his group play...guess the rest of them don't either <3...think b4 u type <3
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On August 25 2011 01:43 HuKPOWA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 01:38 GurZtly wrote:
NaDa... I love u. Really, I mean there are things in the world, you cannot describe, NaDa is one of them.
But, I really think, it´s time to go. Something is missing, todays NaDa, is very sloppy. I would say he´s Code B. Every game I see him play, I want him to do great things, to dominate, but there are mistakes ( FOCUSFIRING!!!!) that I see and think, no, your nothing like before man. I didn´t follow BW, but I saw as many of his games back when he was bonjwa as I could. And seeing him now makes me so sad. But Tastosis and everyone are like, no he´s actually not that bad, see he makes it RO8-16 everytime....
He´s terrible. Next group selection, if anyone says:" I pick someone who does not belong to code S", then NaDa should be picked.
As much as I love him, it hurts to much seeing him lose. And I tell you, MLG will not be fun with NaDa. Like we saw at Assembly, any rnd "pro" can take a BO3 of him...
"He doesn't deserve Code S" yet he wins his group play...guess the rest of them don't either <3...think b4 u type <3
Watch his brackets. Too much luck for one person...
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On August 25 2011 01:38 GurZtly wrote:
NaDa... I love u. Really, I mean there are things in the world, you cannot describe, NaDa is one of them.
But, I really think, it´s time to go. Something is missing, todays NaDa, is very sloppy. I would say he´s Code B. Every game I see him play, I want him to do great things, to dominate, but there are mistakes ( FOCUSFIRING!!!!) that I see and think, no, your nothing like before man. I didn´t follow BW, but I saw as many of his games back when he was bonjwa as I could. And seeing him now makes me so sad. But Tastosis and everyone are like, no he´s actually not that bad, see he makes it RO8-16 everytime....
He´s terrible. Next group selection, if anyone says:" I pick someone who does not belong to code S", then NaDa should be picked.
As much as I love him, it hurts to much seeing him lose. And I tell you, MLG will not be fun with NaDa. Like we saw at Assembly, any rnd "pro" can take a BO3 of him...
Dude, you do realize that NaDa is studying at one of the best universities in Korea while playing right? Despite this he consitently advances into the later rounds of Code S. So before you go all emo and shit, look up the facts.
Topic; Anyone who thought NesTea would beat MvP is crazy.
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On August 25 2011 00:51 phorian wrote:Huk is the new protoss hero
By that logic isn't Mana a far bigger hero? Beat Nada, Huk, Thorzain, Puma etc
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I'm really happy for MVP for his success since slumping for a while but NesTea my champion why did you have to lose?  Good thing HuK advanced to Ro8 \o/
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On August 25 2011 01:46 Rylaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 01:38 GurZtly wrote:
NaDa... I love u. Really, I mean there are things in the world, you cannot describe, NaDa is one of them.
But, I really think, it´s time to go. Something is missing, todays NaDa, is very sloppy. I would say he´s Code B. Every game I see him play, I want him to do great things, to dominate, but there are mistakes ( FOCUSFIRING!!!!) that I see and think, no, your nothing like before man. I didn´t follow BW, but I saw as many of his games back when he was bonjwa as I could. And seeing him now makes me so sad. But Tastosis and everyone are like, no he´s actually not that bad, see he makes it RO8-16 everytime....
He´s terrible. Next group selection, if anyone says:" I pick someone who does not belong to code S", then NaDa should be picked.
As much as I love him, it hurts to much seeing him lose. And I tell you, MLG will not be fun with NaDa. Like we saw at Assembly, any rnd "pro" can take a BO3 of him...
Dude, you do realize that NaDa is studying at one of the best universities in Korea while playing right? Despite this he consitently advances into the later rounds of Code S. So before you go all emo and shit, look up the facts. Topic; Anyone who thought NesTea would beat MvP is crazy.
We´ll see at MLG and hopefully I´m wrong... 
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