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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 19 2011 10:24 GMT
#541
On August 19 2011 19:22 blowfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:21 Nerdslayer wrote:
I dont understand why protoss keep going greedy nexus first!

its so easy to counter for the terren

it helps against the 1 1 1 built

Yup, since 1/1/1 is so fucking strong, you need a total overkill economy to be able to hold it, going anything later than 1gate FE is pretty much insta-loss. If you can get away with a 15 nexus, that's the best chance you will ever get I'd say.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 19 2011 10:24 GMT
#542
On August 19 2011 19:22 zolii wrote:
Does anyone know what are those BIG headphones Kas and Socke are wearing now?


They're for sound proofing so they can't hear the casters. They can probably still hear the casters somewhat and they should probably have booths.
Miraju
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany235 Posts
August 19 2011 10:24 GMT
#543
socke should have put 2 bunkers down
can you dig it, SUCKAAAAA?
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
August 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#544
On August 19 2011 19:24 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:22 zolii wrote:
Does anyone know what are those BIG headphones Kas and Socke are wearing now?


They're for sound proofing so they can't hear the casters. They can probably still hear the casters somewhat and they should probably have booths.

thx, I know that, but Im looking for a specific model name - would like to have them.
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
August 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#545
For the first time in my life I am happy that I currently have Jetlag which let me sleep at 7:00 in the afternoon only to wake up at 4:00 in the morning in order to watch this ;D
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#546
On August 19 2011 19:23 icarly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:22 blowfish wrote:
On August 19 2011 19:21 Nerdslayer wrote:
I dont understand why protoss keep going greedy nexus first!

its so easy to counter for the terren

it helps against the 1 1 1 built


true. it's probably the strongest counter for 111

yes its strongest counter to the build that will never happen because you got allined.
Stork[gm]
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 10:26:34
August 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#547
On August 19 2011 19:24 vdale wrote:
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On August 19 2011 19:22 Logros wrote:
Well I guess Nexus first just isn't a viable build in PvT.

he could have stopped producing probes, build 6 gateways (no forge, twilight council and gas) and he could defend. He just have to throw the coin right

That's what all-ins are all about.


Ya. Honestly, as Rottie said, just -try- scouting with a probe - in this game he could've actually seen there is no expo and instead of going twilight forge, just go all out on the gateway production.

He probably thought that Kas expanded behind his early probe kills.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
August 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#548
On August 19 2011 19:24 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:22 Logros wrote:
Well I guess Nexus first just isn't a viable build in PvT.

he could have stopped producing probes, build 6 gateways (no forge, twilight council and gas) and he could defend. He just have to throw a coin


Not just defend, but also that could force kas to not double expand or just get rolled by a counterattack.
aka ilovesharkpeople
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
August 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#549
Lalush in the lobby? xd
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DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#550
who are they talking about ? :D
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Muesli_
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany83 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#551
which player was rotti talking about?
exittlight
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia271 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#552
On August 19 2011 19:24 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:22 zolii wrote:
Does anyone know what are those BIG headphones Kas and Socke are wearing now?


They're for sound proofing so they can't hear the casters. They can probably still hear the casters somewhat and they should probably have booths.


What headphones they are, not what they are for.
If you have no goals in life, you can never be disappointed.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#553
On August 19 2011 19:25 ArnaudF wrote:
Lalush in the lobby? xd


lol ><
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#554
The guy is CombatEx ore Lalush lol?
Are you human?
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#555
All of you "punished the greedy build with an all-in" guys are idiots. That was a really bad all-in to try against Nexus first, comes way too late. Socke just threw the game away by not scouting at all. He could've ran a probe into Kas' natural, saw all those units, and just pumped stuff out of his 4 gates. At the very least, he could've taken a watchtower with some Stalkers.

Just a bad game in general. Uncharacteristic scouting failure by Socke, and a bad decision to do that build by Kas.
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Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#556
Socke lost because he got greedy and his risk taking backfired since he got scouted first. Nothing more.

Kas's response was typical to what happened.

That said, lol at the mod's note "-LoL vs the world arguments;" Haha.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#557
On August 19 2011 19:24 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:22 Logros wrote:
Well I guess Nexus first just isn't a viable build in PvT.

he could have stopped producing probes, build 6 gateways (no forge, twilight council and gas) and he could defend. He just have to throw the coin right

That's what all-ins are all about.

Kas' army was almost twice the size, even with probe cuts I don't think he could have held that. And we've seen Killer die to a bunch of 3-4 barracks all-ins when he went nexus first as well.
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#558
On August 19 2011 19:25 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:23 icarly wrote:
On August 19 2011 19:22 blowfish wrote:
On August 19 2011 19:21 Nerdslayer wrote:
I dont understand why protoss keep going greedy nexus first!

its so easy to counter for the terren

it helps against the 1 1 1 built


true. it's probably the strongest counter for 111

yes its strongest counter to the build that will never happen because you got allined.


to be fair Killer and Socke were scouted very early, like first scout path, every game they 15 cc'd.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#559
Kas the destroyer? No Rotti, he's the Machine!
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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2372 Posts
August 19 2011 10:26 GMT
#560
It is Bo5, so one game doesn`t do the trick. Gogogo Socke! (^_^)
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