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[GSL] August Code A RO32 Day 1 - Page 115

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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
August 08 2011 10:04 GMT
#2281
I dislike wolfs analysis here.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 08 2011 10:04 GMT
#2282
On August 08 2011 19:04 Caesarion wrote:
What race does Wolf play btw?

protoss
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MagmaRam
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2283
TaeJa is going to win with a 1-1-1, what a surprise.
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong748 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2284
On August 08 2011 18:59 aresendez88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 18:54 Zaurus wrote:
On August 08 2011 18:51 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 08 2011 18:48 illumn wrote:
Didn't Polt do a variation of this without tanks vs MC in season one?

How come this build is suddenly getting so much attention when terrans have been doing it for, well, ever?


Seriously.

This build has been around since the beta. It was just as powerful then but Protoss players got so used to seeing it that they figured out ways to hold it. It was never patched then it won't be patched now.

Wolf's right. Toss players have to start expecting it more and scouting before they put their nexus down.


Hey one base toss can't stop this. try it yourself before making stupid comments. Terran get so much more minerals compared to toss. They can just mine out before attacking you with everything they have and there is nothing you can do.


Just like how Protoss players were complaining that Roach/Ling was impossible to hold when the Zerg went all in on it. It's a strong all in timing attack and that's it. It is holdable, but every protoss I've ever seen lose to it at the professional level seems to be surprised when the tanks show up. At this point you'd think they should be expecting it.


I could be misinterpreting your post, but are you saying protoss players are building immortals to counter marines and banshees? Why else do you think they are building immortals if they aren't expecting tanks? =/
SayHello
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic147 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2285
John said it in Code A qualifiers:
"There is no better build." :-D
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2286
In team league, hongun's void ray bust killed ganzi's 111, that's something at least.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2287
So both Wolf and DoA says that you shouldn't have the nexus when defending against this. That isn't what everyone in this thread is saying. Has anyone actually successfully held this above masters level and have any input?
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2288
On August 08 2011 19:04 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:02 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:
(P)Tails vs (T)Taeja

Game One on Metalopolis


In the right position is Tails

While in the north is Taeja


2:10

Gateway / barracks on the way as both players take their first gas


3:30

Factory on the way for Taeja

Tails is getting his second gas + warpgates


4:45

Expansion on the way for tails

Taeja is getting a starport


5:30


Banshees in production


6:40

Robo on the way for tails

Siege tanks coming out for taeja
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2289
On August 08 2011 19:00 Oboeman wrote:
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But that's partially because Tarson forgot to research Siege Mode.


terrans always forget siege mode. I don't get it.

Jinro forgot it against Idra. MMA forgot it against huk. Tarson against Naniwa. TheBest against Yoda. fenix against morrow.
Nada has forgotten it in 3 or 4 televized matches. qxc forgot it against Rain.

it's like forgetting ling speed


Yeah, but you usually get ling speed (or WG for protoss) early in the game at a time where you don't have much else to do. When you're supposed to get siege mode the pace of the game is usually more intense and you can forget/missclick it a bit more easily.

That said it doesn't make it excusable at pro level
Romanes eunt domus
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2290
Am I the only one that doesn't feel sorry for Protoss? The masters of All Ins.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2291
On August 08 2011 19:01 HolyArrow wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:00 Medrea wrote:
On August 08 2011 18:56 Hierarch wrote:
On August 08 2011 18:55 Maskedsatyr wrote:
On August 08 2011 18:52 Hierarch wrote:
On August 08 2011 18:49 EvilSky wrote:
Immortals are so useless in that spot, totally not worth their cost, imagine if instead of those 4? immos he actually had the equivalent in basic units, dunno if he had won but surely it would do better :/


I wonder if zealot/stalker/immortal/voidray would work? ge the zealots near the marines so they take splash also and then use your 1-2 immortals to hit tanks while 1-2 vr's and stalkers deal with the banshees? I honestly can't think of anything else that would be ready in time, gotta scout it quick though so you don't over commit on sentries.


Immortals are just useless to defend this. A good terran will be scvs and marines preventing your immortals from targetting the tanks.


Then maybe 2-3 voidrays and some phoenix? I feel stargate has to be the answer?


I like to drop a stargate and get maybe 3 phoenix out.

Lift 3 tanks.

Kill ground army.

Drop tanks when ground army has no more marines.

Clean up banshees with your hopefully at least one phoenix left.


How do you prevent your Phoenixes from being target fired down by the marine ball? Seems like this would work against a Terran that just doesn't position himself carefully enough.


Ground army has a lot of zealots in it. You come in with your phoenix after you engage anyway so either terran.

Tries to focus one of your 3 phoenix and eats zealot blades.

Stutter steps himself too far away from the situation to kill all of them.

Either way, your not in for a VERY win against the 111. But you might hang on with like 1 phoenix a couple zealots and maybe a sentry and a couple stalkers.
twitch.tv/medrea
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2292
On August 08 2011 19:04 Beyonder wrote:
GSL, 111 REASONS TO WATCH BUT THIS BUILD AINT ONE

oh god, hahahahahah <3
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2293
Wolf keeps saying that expand is bad vs this build but the tosses in this thread say that expo is the best way to go.

Which is it?
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2294
On August 08 2011 19:04 Beyonder wrote:
GSL, 111 REASONS TO WATCH BUT THIS BUILD AINT ONE

hahaha n1
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2295
Oops a T did it again :D
I wonder if making a swarm of zealots + phoenixes would work. In my head I see it work but I dunno.
snifit
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada217 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2296
On August 08 2011 19:04 Beyonder wrote:
GSL, 111 REASONS TO WATCH BUT THIS BUILD AINT ONE


Haha. <3
the raven
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2297
Here we go, 1g expo into mpre gates, let's hope
It appears I have been chosen.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2298
On August 08 2011 19:04 Zaurus wrote:
Please just freaking 4 gate and own the 1/1/1 build, it is furious to see Terran own all protoss with that build




lol, 1/1/1 crushes 4gate so easily its retarded. tanks without siege mode own stalkers, banshees own stalkers, marines own stalkers and zealots


1base fast collossi (with 1-2 immortals and about 8 stalkers) owns 1-1-1
Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2299
they should rename code s to code t
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
August 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#2300
omg... not 1-1-1 again :[ I don't even really care whether or not it's op, this is just as bad as watching an scv all in IMO. low skill boring games to watch...
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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