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Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 07 2011 15:34 GMT
#3681
Does the water in the middle hurt the players, or is it just for show?
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 07 2011 15:34 GMT
#3682
On August 08 2011 00:33 Dommk wrote:
So what is the difference between Cleave and Non-Cleave? What is a "Non-Cleave" 3v3 composition?


During the first expansion, people used to call cleave setup what was double melee setup.
Since when, each new setup is "something" cleave.

So There's not really any non cleave setup, beside rogue mage priest ( the first setup ever made ) or something like Warlock Warrior Druid ( the second setup ever made << )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 07 2011 15:34 GMT
#3683
Seriously.... this MLS lands like 1 CC every 2 minutes. Really bad.

The shaman is the one with the bloodlust icon by his name.

Think of it this way:
Team 1 is a Queen, an Ultralisk, and an Infestor.
Team 2 is a Queen, a High Templar, and an Infestor.

The Ultralisk team is sitting on the High Templar until he dies. No one dies until the Queen runs out of energy for transfuses. Everyone's using their storms and fungals to try to stop the other team from attacking or transfusing. That's about it.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 07 2011 15:34 GMT
#3684
On August 08 2011 00:21 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 00:19 On_Slaught wrote:
Absolutely loving the accent.

Watching the stats of these characters makes me sad. Back in my day you'd be a boss if you had 20khp! Now everyone and their dog has 120,000+. So crazy.

Yeah man, because every person and skill having an extra figure (0) is really detrimental to the game.


Yes it is when it is the result of a gear grind which is absolutely necessary to even compete at this level. The reason WoW fails as an esport is because the playing field isn't level. There is so much shit going on behind the scenes (resistances and such) that you need to be an expert just to know wtf is going on and why it is going on like that.

GW2 is going a long way towards fixing this thankfully.
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
August 07 2011 15:34 GMT
#3685
On August 08 2011 00:33 Dommk wrote:
So what is the difference between Cleave and Non-Cleave? What is a "Non-Cleave" 3v3 composition?


There isn't much anymore.

For a while anything that was melee/melee/healer or caster/caster/healer was considered a cleave composition. Now they give pretty much anything a something-cleave name to be cute.
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
August 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#3686
On August 08 2011 00:33 Dommk wrote:
So what is the difference between Cleave and Non-Cleave? What is a "Non-Cleave" 3v3 composition?


Cleave means that u pretty much do alot of damage too 2 players, to keep the healer busy sorta like a multiproned drop:D
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#3687
On August 08 2011 00:34 SMD wrote:
The Deathknight seems invincible, why not try and kill the lock or healer?

Cause he does a stupid amount of dmg if you don't focus him
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
August 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#3688
So, I guess I learn a little about WoW arena. Have to stay up until 12:00 am T_T to watch LQ. I'm going to die tomorrow.
FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
August 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#3689
On August 08 2011 00:33 Dommk wrote:
So what is the difference between Cleave and Non-Cleave? What is a "Non-Cleave" 3v3 composition?

I think a cleave is a group that is 2 dps and 1 hybrid? The point of it is too take down the other team as fast as possible. Non cleave has a dedicated healer. I think, its been a while.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
August 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#3690
On August 08 2011 00:34 fant0m wrote:
Seriously.... this MLS lands like 1 CC every 2 minutes. Really bad.

The shaman is the one with the bloodlust icon by his name.

Think of it this way:
Team 1 is a Queen, an Ultralisk, and an Infestor.
Team 2 is a Queen, a High Templar, and an Infestor.

The Ultralisk team is sitting on the High Templar until he dies. No one dies until the Queen runs out of energy for transfuses. Everyone's using their storms and fungals to try to stop the other team from attacking or transfusing. That's about it.


What about the worker counts :D
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3691
On August 08 2011 00:33 JoeAWESOME wrote:
This is so viewer unfriendly for ppl who dont play wow.... Too much animation. They need to make it cleaner so you can see more what's happening


Even if you do play WoW... this is still pretty tough to watch.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3692
On August 08 2011 00:34 fant0m wrote:
Seriously.... this MLS lands like 1 CC every 2 minutes. Really bad.

The shaman is the one with the bloodlust icon by his name.

Think of it this way:
Team 1 is a Queen, an Ultralisk, and an Infestor.
Team 2 is a Queen, a High Templar, and an Infestor.

The Ultralisk team is sitting on the High Templar until he dies. No one dies until the Queen runs out of energy for transfuses. Everyone's using their storms and fungals to try to stop the other team from attacking or transfusing. That's about it.


That actually helped a lot in understanding what's happening lol
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3693
what are the most common comps now? I haven't seen a single mage/rogue/priest yet o.o
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3694
Is Dignitas in the WoW tournament to?
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3695
was that a zergling?
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3696
Btw people are treating Soe as if she has no idea whats going on, but shes saying quite sensible stuff.
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Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3697
Are you allowed to change class between rounds?
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3698
Any idea when the SC2 will start again?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3699
On August 08 2011 00:34 fant0m wrote:
Seriously.... this MLS lands like 1 CC every 2 minutes. Really bad.

The shaman is the one with the bloodlust icon by his name.

Think of it this way:
Team 1 is a Queen, an Ultralisk, and an Infestor.
Team 2 is a Queen, a High Templar, and an Infestor.

The Ultralisk team is sitting on the High Templar until he dies. No one dies until the Queen runs out of energy for transfuses. Everyone's using their storms and fungals to try to stop the other team from attacking or transfusing. That's about it.


Thanks! <3
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 07 2011 15:36 GMT
#3700
On August 08 2011 00:34 fant0m wrote:
Seriously.... this MLS lands like 1 CC every 2 minutes. Really bad.

The shaman is the one with the bloodlust icon by his name.

Think of it this way:
Team 1 is a Queen, an Ultralisk, and an Infestor.
Team 2 is a Queen, a High Templar, and an Infestor.

The Ultralisk team is sitting on the High Templar until he dies. No one dies until the Queen runs out of energy for transfuses. Everyone's using their storms and fungals to try to stop the other team from attacking or transfusing. That's about it.

That actually makes sense.
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