• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:18
CEST 18:18
KST 01:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE15Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5
StarCraft 2
General
August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Life's Huge Gambling Spree After IEM Katowice 2014 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles #19 2-Days Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Scarlett Fan Club The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4533 users

Blizz EU Invite - Day 1 - Page 79

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 77 78 79 80 81 423 Next
Try to keep it positive in the thread please. And stop hating on other games! Respect and show everyone how awesome TL is :D
DrVegetables
Profile Joined August 2011
16 Posts
August 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#1561
How do they say there`s not a single empty seat over there if the camera shows us at least one empty seat! Think more people should fly over to Poland =P
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
August 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#1562
who won strelok v nani?
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#1563
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roaches". Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.


Name me a couple games where a ZvT was won with roaches, when it wasn't a type of super aggressive cheese opening, Ret held the 1st push no problem, it was the later pushes with 8+ medivacs that he was having trouble with. Tarson just kept streaming units, he only made 2-3 real "pushes".
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
August 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#1564
(Z)Ret vs. (T)Tarson on Typhoon Peaks. Score is at 1-1.

1:00

Ret spawning bottom right, Tarson, bottom left.

Tarson 12 barracks.

Ret 15 hatch (duh).

"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1565
has naniwa vs strelok happend yet?
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1566
On August 06 2011 22:19 Tsuki.eu wrote:
who won strelok v nani?

not played yet, later
No carpal tunnel no skill
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1567
On August 06 2011 22:19 darlhet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roach DPS". It wasn't even on full energy or something. Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision(but he needed them way before tarson attacked) and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.

he's doing the slayers build, the follow up of this destroyes roaches used to fend the attack off, slazyers arent a bunch of amateurs they have everything mapped in this build


This is not the SlayerS build. It differs in the opening and the follow up is completely different.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1568
On August 06 2011 22:19 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roaches". Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.


Name me a couple games where a ZvT was won with roaches, when it wasn't a type of super aggressive cheese opening, Ret held the 1st push no problem, it was the later pushes with 8+ medivacs that he was having trouble with. Tarson just kept streaming units, he only made 2-3 real "pushes".

You should watch Dimaga's games if you want ZvT's with roaches .
It looks weird and weak, but he makes it work.
It appears I have been chosen.
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1569
On August 06 2011 22:20 Fig wrote:
has naniwa vs strelok happend yet?


Nopp.
noggster
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden37 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1570
I hate rotterdam, how do you stand him?
When life gives you lemons, say fuck the lemons and bail.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1571
On August 06 2011 22:19 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roaches". Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.


Name me a couple games where a ZvT was won with roaches, when it wasn't a type of super aggressive cheese opening, Ret held the 1st push no problem, it was the later pushes with 8+ medivacs that he was having trouble with. Tarson just kept streaming units, he only made 2-3 real "pushes".


Name me a ZvT where the terran didn't build tanks tho :D
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1572
On August 06 2011 22:19 darlhet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roach DPS". It wasn't even on full energy or something. Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision(but he needed them way before tarson attacked) and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.

he's doing the slayers build, the follow up of this destroyes roaches used to fend the attack off, slazyers arent a bunch of amateurs they have everything mapped in this build

No, he's not. He modified it for a later timing and earlier expansion. I wish people would understand that blue flames + elevation play =/= SlayerS build.
lalala
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
August 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#1573
On August 06 2011 22:16 Nivity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:16 NotSoSerious wrote:
They need to lower that camera sensitivity or something,it's kinda disturbing to watch....good game by tarson.


Nah rotterdam moves using arrowkeys and mouse to edge. Which is the biggest nono as a caster because its so jerky.


Yeah, he's been doing that bad observing for AGES and he's supposed to be a "pro" caster. It's not even that hard to do the thing properly without giving the viewers headache.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1574
On August 06 2011 22:20 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:19 Tsuki.eu wrote:
who won strelok v nani?

not played yet, later


oh thanks, so this is first series?
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1575
On August 06 2011 22:17 Jaxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:12 pallad wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:10 Jaxx wrote:
Is there low quality stream please? This computer/connection can't handle HQ ((


English stream is not HQ , only polish is.

Huh, it's too good for me anyway, would like to have justintv 360p option


hmm maby try pop out video option whitout 10 sites in browser opened , if that not help you i dunno
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1576
I watched some ZvTs on the Korean ladder streams on this maps. Terrans liked one base play here.
Lokj
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands439 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1577
On August 06 2011 22:18 Gaxton wrote:
Oh god i love those awkward pauses.


i think the production team is a little bit trolling MrBitter and Rotti right there. We go to the intro screen in 5, 4, 3, 2.... 21, 20, 19....

cracks me up as well
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1578
On August 06 2011 22:20 PeggyHill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:19 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roaches". Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.


Name me a couple games where a ZvT was won with roaches, when it wasn't a type of super aggressive cheese opening, Ret held the 1st push no problem, it was the later pushes with 8+ medivacs that he was having trouble with. Tarson just kept streaming units, he only made 2-3 real "pushes".


Name me a ZvT where the terran didn't build tanks tho :D


Well played
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1579
Ret better make roach/infestor if tarson goes hellion/marines again.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
August 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#1580
On August 06 2011 22:19 darlhet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:17 KeksX wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:15 Hierarch wrote:
On August 06 2011 22:14 Integra wrote:
ret, why you not make roaches?


Roaches are bad ZvT, they just don't do enough dps vs marine/medivac so they lose, only thing they're good vs is hellions and "thors" (when thors are in lowish numbers)

What?
Did you watch the game?

By the first attack Tarson had ONE Medivac. ONE. That wasn't nearly enough to say "medivacs would've destroyed the roach DPS". It wasn't even on full energy or something. Also, in combination with SOME slow banes it would've been even more efficient.
Roaches would have been overall the best decision(but he needed them way before tarson attacked) and he could've attacked before tarson had his 2base push rdy,
but Ret played too passively.

So yea, don't say "roaches are bad zvt", they would've had great use in this game and ret didn't know that.

he's doing the slayers build, the follow up of this destroyes roaches used to fend the attack off, slazyers arent a bunch of amateurs they have everything mapped in this build

You do not need to mass roaches to fend off these hellion marine attacks so the follow up won't even be all that strong, just enough to tank and take out the hellions. Baneling/ling to back them up.
Prev 1 77 78 79 80 81 423 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 992
Rex 105
BRAT_OK 64
SHIN 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25175
Bisu 2639
Shuttle 2054
EffOrt 1265
actioN 965
Mini 851
Soulkey 512
firebathero 479
Soma 394
Snow 179
[ Show more ]
hero 166
Rush 157
Hyun 122
Dewaltoss 100
Sharp 73
scan(afreeca) 29
Terrorterran 26
Rock 14
Sexy 11
Dota 2
Gorgc12452
qojqva1766
420jenkins209
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1341
C9.Mang0365
Mew2King138
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor253
Other Games
singsing1492
FrodaN1434
B2W.Neo1067
uThermal436
XBOCT342
Hui .197
ArmadaUGS83
ToD46
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH288
• Shameless 23
• Adnapsc2 5
• Reevou 1
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2562
• WagamamaTV570
League of Legends
• Jankos2037
• Nemesis884
Other Games
• imaqtpie634
• Shiphtur225
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
18h 42m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
INu's Battles
1d 18h
Percival vs Zoun
Cure vs Rogue
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs NightMare
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
INu's Battles
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.