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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#741
On August 05 2011 20:28 ellirc wrote:
Where is the morrow and sjow games? Khaldor and TB streaming the same match again...

They will be played in an hour, its only 2 matches at the same time now.
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
August 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#742
GG WP Seiplo. I'm really hoping he'll pull through. He's been playing his heart out since beta and vZ is his weakest match up.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
dragoonier
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany154 Posts
August 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#743
I don't think it has much do with Europeans playing better but Huk, Sen and Nada didn't play that well for what ever reason Nada plays not his A-game at all outside of the GSL. I hope he will get better when sk is sending him out for other foreign events. I don't have much hope so, because I'm pretty sure he will have to go to university again, it will only get worse.
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
August 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#744
On August 05 2011 20:28 Titorelli wrote:
Hmmm Seiplo 1-0 Stephano


that game was pretty retarded

I am NOT calling imbalance, but stephano kind of deserved to win that he baited a lot of forcefields multiple times before the 6gate even got to his base, had 3 spines, got a great surround with lings which should have done a lot more than it did...

well played by seiplo I guess, he deserves some credit :D
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
August 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#745
"DIMAGA can play any zerg style, defensive AND passive" -Apollo

that's actually well said :p
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#746
On August 05 2011 20:29 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 20:28 ellirc wrote:
Where is the morrow and sjow games? Khaldor and TB streaming the same match again...

They will be played in an hour, its only 2 matches at the same time now.

Oh thank god. I was seriously upset there for a while :p
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
August 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#747
just me or is the stream framedropping horribly from time to time?
Team NSHoseo <3
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
August 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#748
On August 05 2011 20:29 dragoonier wrote:
I don't think it has much do with Europeans playing better but Huk, Sen and Nada didn't play that well for what ever reason Nada plays not his A-game at all outside of the GSL. I hope he will get better when sk is sending him out for other foreign events. I don't have much hope so, because I'm pretty sure he will have to go to university again, it will only get worse.


plz dont make any reason
i've been in very much pain knowing NaDa lost
i just want to get over it already
-Terran-
Behemoth.1337
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland76 Posts
August 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#749
On the other hand - even though I like NaDa a lot (but due to his personality and BW career) I'm glad that he got eliminated, not because of my countryman did it, but because of his deal with SK. In my opinion they acted really unfair towards Jimpo, supporting him as a promising player and then kicking him, because of lacking big results. It feels like (just like in wc3) they approach big names, and hope that money will equal dominance. That's not the right way...
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 11:34:27
August 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#750
On August 05 2011 20:27 redloser wrote:
just got home and...

NADA 0-2??????????????

OMFG T_T NADA T_T


1st game, Talderim Altar South positions - Nada does a half all in off 4 rax 2 base (takes half his SCV's), but Mana puts up amazing force fields, traps all the scv's and half the marines on the ramp. A lot of back and forth but Mana keeps his stalkers alive throughout, gets out his first collosus and from there begins to just push Nada back.

Nada tries to rebuild, but can't get out vikings and rebuild his army so has nothing to stop Mana's 3 collosus + zealot/stalker attack.

2nd game, Cross positions on Crevasse. Both take their inbase natural, nada moves out to do an attack with drop ships and all rax upgrades done while Mana is teching to charge. Nada tries a drop but Mana is ready for it.

Nada pulls back, and they start exchanging armies in the centre, whoever winning push towards the opponent but being pushed back.

Mana takes a hidden 4th that Nada will not scout till very late in the game. Mana gets HT with storm, Nada with ghosts. Some good engagements from Nada take a lot of Mana's units out, but with the 4th Mana's production is huge. Another engagement includes Collosus, and Nada has to start getting vikings.

Mana enters Nada's base while Nada is in the middle of the map, does a lot of damage to production facitilites but loses his army. However he has rebuilt back at his base. Nada takes 4th, but now is low on ghosts. Constant storms from Mana who sends a HT one at a time to avoid EMP's being that effective.

Nada is 3/3 but stim and storms mean his army is always half strength. Tries to drop the 4th after finding it, but by then he has lost his 4th, almost mined out his 3rd and Mana is twice his supply. GG
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#751
Dimaga should go muta, it rules on this map
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 11:37:00
August 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#752
The French commentators are so patriotic ^^
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#753
On August 05 2011 20:28 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 20:18 Toxi78 wrote:
let's not forget that the 3 best europeans are not even here, namely thorzain naniwa and nerchio.
anyways, there were almost only europeans in this tour, no wonder we are going to win...


oh them
they're outmucsled badly in MLG if my memory served me right

nerchio ??
never heard major tournament that he won yet




very sad for NaDa
i really really wish he wins this
i've lost my interest in this tournament
will only be back to check who's the winner

but getting curious over EU vs KR
is NaDa just a fluke
or does EU is reall a beast in disguise

Naniwa is first rank in MLG, he did fairly well in both MLG with koreans, and he won the one before that.

Thorzain went through open bracket and then got 3-2 in pool play, ended up at 9th total.

For Nerchio, read the tournament winnings recap. He's in that pretty much every time, he's a beast when it comes to online cups and tournaments. 13 tournament wins and 1 silver in June and July. And in online cups in europe you have good players in pretty much all of them, which is one of the reasons why Europe has a large amount of top players, they're playing against each other in tournaments a lot. Nerchio won 5 out of 6 ZOTAC cups in a row, and is the reason why Morrow started playing TvZ instead of ZvZ.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#754
On August 05 2011 20:36 coko wrote:
The French commentators are so patriotic ^^


They can't be patriotic for football, E-sport just remains :D
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#755
What's forcefield in french?
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#756
On August 05 2011 20:33 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 20:27 redloser wrote:
just got home and...

NADA 0-2??????????????

OMFG T_T NADA T_T


+ Show Spoiler +
1st game, Talderim Altar South positions - Nada does a half all in off 4 rax 2 base (takes half his SCV's), but Mana puts up amazing force fields, traps all the scv's and half the marines on the ramp. A lot of back and forth but Mana keeps his stalkers alive throughout, gets out his first collosus and from there begins to just push Nada back.

Nada tries to rebuild, but can't get out vikings and rebuild his army so has nothing to stop Mana's 3 collosus + zealot/stalker attack.

2nd game, Cross positions on Crevasse. Both take their inbase natural, nada moves out to do an attack with drop ships and all rax upgrades done while Mana is teching to charge. Nada tries a drop but Mana is ready for it.

Nada pulls back, and they start exchanging armies in the centre, whoever winning push towards the opponent but being pushed back.

Mana takes a hidden 4th that Nada will not scout till very late in the game. Mana gets HT with storm, Nada with ghosts. Some good engagements from Nada take a lot of Mana's units out, but with the 4th Mana's production is huge. Another engagement includes Collosus, and Nada has to start getting vikings.

Mana enters Nada's base while Nada is in the middle of the map, does a lot of damage to production facitilites but loses his army. However he has rebuilt back at his base. Nada takes 4th, but now is low on ghosts. Constant storms from Mana who sends a HT one at a time to avoid EMP's being that effective.

Nada is 3/3 but stim and storms mean his army is always half strength. Tries to drop the 4th after finding it, but by then he has lost his 4th, almost mined out his 3rd and Mana is twice his supply. GG

It seems like you don't give MaNa enough credit for the 2nd game, his storms were pretty much magnificent, and his army control was better than NaDa's (bar one fail battle).
It appears I have been chosen.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 11:41:09
August 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#757
On August 05 2011 20:23 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 20:16 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2011 20:13 setzer wrote:
On August 05 2011 20:05 BjC wrote:
Koreans go to american MLG - finish top 6. Koreans (and HuK) go to european tourament and get owned! excellent! gogo europe. Huk really the top foreigner??


Where was this European power at DH? All I saw was EU falling like flies to Bomber, MC, Moon and July.


Maybe they got better since then? DH was kind of a wake-up call for Europeans, and perhaps they are training harder now.

I guess we'll see at the next big international tournament where both the EU and Korea send their best.

MLG just keeps getting worse and worse though. NA players do need to step it up, hard as that maybe.

Classic case of interpreting too much into single results.


That's why there's a "maybe" attached, along with a "perhaps," and a question mark.

The Europeans who have been doing really well in this tournament, and knocking out the favorites, are players we haven't seen in a while, especially at LANs. While a fluke is certainly possible, it's also possible that there's a lot more depth to the European scene than Thorzain, Naniwa, and White-Ra.

Even Kas went out against a relative unknown. It's a tournament of upsets, and shows that there is competition out there beyond the regulars that are bantered about all the time.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#758
Dimaga crushing!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#759
On August 05 2011 20:38 ellirc wrote:
What's forcefield in french?


Blizzard translation is "Champ de force", but casters use to say "Forcefields" or "Glaçon" (Glaçon means Iceblock)
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
August 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#760
On August 05 2011 20:38 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 20:33 coko wrote:
On August 05 2011 20:27 redloser wrote:
just got home and...

NADA 0-2??????????????

OMFG T_T NADA T_T


+ Show Spoiler +
1st game, Talderim Altar South positions - Nada does a half all in off 4 rax 2 base (takes half his SCV's), but Mana puts up amazing force fields, traps all the scv's and half the marines on the ramp. A lot of back and forth but Mana keeps his stalkers alive throughout, gets out his first collosus and from there begins to just push Nada back.

Nada tries to rebuild, but can't get out vikings and rebuild his army so has nothing to stop Mana's 3 collosus + zealot/stalker attack.

2nd game, Cross positions on Crevasse. Both take their inbase natural, nada moves out to do an attack with drop ships and all rax upgrades done while Mana is teching to charge. Nada tries a drop but Mana is ready for it.

Nada pulls back, and they start exchanging armies in the centre, whoever winning push towards the opponent but being pushed back.

Mana takes a hidden 4th that Nada will not scout till very late in the game. Mana gets HT with storm, Nada with ghosts. Some good engagements from Nada take a lot of Mana's units out, but with the 4th Mana's production is huge. Another engagement includes Collosus, and Nada has to start getting vikings.

Mana enters Nada's base while Nada is in the middle of the map, does a lot of damage to production facitilites but loses his army. However he has rebuilt back at his base. Nada takes 4th, but now is low on ghosts. Constant storms from Mana who sends a HT one at a time to avoid EMP's being that effective.

Nada is 3/3 but stim and storms mean his army is always half strength. Tries to drop the 4th after finding it, but by then he has lost his 4th, almost mined out his 3rd and Mana is twice his supply. GG

It seems like you don't give MaNa enough credit for the 2nd game, his storms were pretty much magnificent, and his army control was better than NaDa's (bar one fail battle).


Yeah, sorry I understated them. Terran-bias

The army control, I wasn't so sure about. It was hard to follow that from the commentators movements. They mostly showed where Nada was.

Should note that Mana was great at feedback the ghosts. Constantly.
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