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On August 01 2011 11:21 stlh2opolo wrote:
What?! When KiWi and NaNi played wasn't it a straight up best of 7?
So if the stupid, albeit necessary, extended series rule doesn't take effect, they make you have to win two best of 3's rather than an EPIC best of 7???? They already talked about how hard it has been for MMA while MVP gets to watch, study, and rest.
No, Naniwa had a 2-0 extended series going into a best of 7. Get your facts right.
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Cannot wait till MLG bans vuvuzelas. OEEEEEE
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On August 01 2011 11:20 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Can someone explain to my why MLG is so fucking stupid format wise? They are making MMA win 2 bo3s... They aren't gonna give code A to boxer... However they are gonna some random guy that got out really early in the tournament code A that would most likely now even use it... What a joke
Lol .. what?
MMA having to win 2 Bo3s is STANDARD double elimination format; why no complaints about the format before this? EVERY player has the right to fall into the "losers bracket" why should Mvp forfeit this right simply because he is good enough to go undefeated in bracket play?
Why on earth would they give Code A to BoxeR? There is absolutely no reason to, at all, ever. The terms of the Code A spot regarding BoxeR's position are perfectly clear.
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MLG isn't deciding who gets code A, GOM decides who they wanted to invite and the terms for that
And it's called double elimination tournament format, the BEST one, the player who performs the best and stays in winners bracket gets the advantage in grand finals. Have you never played in a tournament before?
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On August 01 2011 11:19 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 11:19 Chicane wrote:On August 01 2011 11:18 EnderCraft wrote:
wtf is up with this format. It should just be a Bo7 I was looking forward to a non extended series format... but this isn't much of an improvement. indeed this format is so bad T_T go MMA!
You realize this format is the only thing keeping MMA in the tournament? If it weren't for double elimination MVP would have won and Boxer would have finished second and achieved code S. MMA would have been out after groups.
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Format makes sense. Need to give the winners bracket an advantage.
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On August 01 2011 11:20 Stanlot wrote:
Wait, so if MMA needs to win 2 bo3s compared to MVPs 1 bo3, what would have been the difference if Boxer had won? Nothing?
I think if Boxer beat MMA, he would have been down 0-2 in a BO7 (needs 4 to win) first. THEN, beat MVP AGAIN in a BO3.
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Extended Series (down 2-0):
Possible wins:
WWWW, WWWLW, WWLWW, WLWWW, LWWWW
Possible losses:
LL, WLL, WLWL, WLWWL, WWLL, WWLWL, WWWLL
So 5/12 possible results are W
2 Bo3 (vs 1 Bo3)
Possible wins:
WW/WW, WLW/WLW, LWW/LWW, WLW/LWW, LWW/WLW, WW/LWW, WW/WLW, LWW/WW, WLW/WW
Possible losses:
LL, LWL, WLL, WW/LL, WW/WLL, WW/LWL, LWW/LL, LWW/LWL, LWW/WLL, WLW/LL, WLW/LWL, WLW/WLL
9/21 possible results are W
NOTE: These are not probabilities, just possibilities
It looks like 2 Bo3 favors the lower player assuming we're coming off a 2-0. Off a 2-1 I think the extended series may favor the lower player a little more even than the 2 Bo3. Again, not hard probabilities (much harder to calculate) but looking at possibilities.
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On August 01 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:Game One on testbug In the south is  MMA While in the top left is MVP 1:40Barracks on the way for both players
2:40
Orbital + marine for both, no gasses yet
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On August 01 2011 11:20 Vallelol wrote:
I do not know why people are complaining about 2 bo3, this is standard double elimination like it has been forever in esports.
People will always find something to cry about
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On August 01 2011 11:21 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 11:20 Clank wrote:
not getting everyones criticism of the 2 best of 3 rule. its a double elim tournament, so why should MVP get knocked out by only losing once, when MMA has already lost once? Because people are stupid.
I'm glad MLG actually does it right. Other tournaments don't get it right, like that recent Verizon tournament.
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On August 01 2011 11:21 Iggnite wrote:
look, its obvious. MVP is taking this game. Hes rocking FLY swag and looks like the tiger woods of sc2. GG!
Except Tiger didn't come out of his slump. It appears MVP has
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On August 01 2011 11:20 Stanlot wrote:
Wait, so if MMA needs to win 2 bo3s compared to MVPs 1 bo3, what would have been the difference if Boxer had won? Nothing?
mma's coming from the losers bracket it would be the same for boxer I think i could be wrong me sleepy
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What a retarded format for the finals.. it is really a buzz killer to give so much advantage to one player.... in this case MVP.
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On August 01 2011 11:20 dcsoda wrote:
The finals really should be a BO7. Leave the extended series for the previous rounds but wipe it clean for the finals.
It's not extended series, they've never played.
This is how double elimination works, MVP hasn't been eliminated once yet becuase he's gone undefeated to win the winner's bracket.
It's massively unfair to your undefeated finalist gets a single attempt at victory while the player coming from the loser's bracket is already on his second life lol
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On August 01 2011 11:20 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Can someone explain to my why MLG is so fucking stupid format wise? They are making MMA win 2 bo3s... They aren't gonna give code A to boxer... However they are gonna some random guy that got out really early in the tournament code A that would most likely now even use it... What a joke
Its not mlg format that is fucking stupid, its just you. MMA is coming through the losers bracket while MVP is coming from the winners. It is not fair that if MVP loses this match he does not get to have another chance as everyone else did. This has always been a rule in a majority of tournaments that have double elimination. They are not giving a code A spot to boxer because he is an exchange player, the point of the code A spots is to give it to foreigners so that there are more foreigners in GSL. This was announced at the very start of the exchange program.
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On August 01 2011 11:21 stlh2opolo wrote:
What?! When KiWi and NaNi played wasn't it a straight up best of 7?
So if the stupid, albeit necessary, extended series rule doesn't take effect, they make you have to win two best of 3's rather than an EPIC best of 7???? They already talked about how hard it has been for MMA while MVP gets to watch, study, and rest.
Look at this this way. MMA already lost, he used his 2nd chance. Mvp hasn't lost a single series, he still has his 2nd chance. It was the same way when MMA defeated Losira.
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On August 01 2011 11:21 MrSexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 11:18 EnderCraft wrote:
wtf is up with this format. It should just be a Bo7 It's double elimination. MMA has been eliminated once so far. MVP hasn't been eliminated yet. MMA has to be eliminated one more time. MVP has to be eliminated two more times.
Thank you for helping to sprinkle logic and reasoning. People do not understand that loser's bracket needs extended series to make sense.
And Loser's bracket is awesommmmmme.
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