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On July 31 2011 15:13 PartyBiscuit wrote:Too bad drewbie wasn't able to win a Bo3 this tourney (kind of feel bad) 
Ya, I did want him to do better, but he did go against very good players, and I would have raged if his one win would be against WhiteRa who had to fight his way out of the losers bracket.
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whitera fought all the way from lower bracket... srsly what a comeback!
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On July 31 2011 15:12 karis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:10 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 15:05 Jinivus wrote:On July 31 2011 15:02 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:58 Heavenly wrote:On July 31 2011 14:55 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:53 Ubes wrote:On July 31 2011 14:51 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:48 Ubes wrote:On July 31 2011 14:46 KimJongChill wrote:
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Dawg, over half of code S next season is Terran. Could sarcasm be any more obvious? Well, to be fair, SC history has always been terran favoured. 4/5 bonjwas are terran, now >50% of GSL players are terran. It's history rewritten. At the very top the line is thinner though, Nestea, MC and MVP are still the top 3 players imo, and between them it would always be a tough call. It's not a tough call at all. Nestea is clearly the best. But according to TL Nestea is imba and Zerg is SOO underpowered. Hmmm... I'd agree NesTea is the best but they'd be very close series. For instance, MVP's TvP ain't so good so MC might have a decent chance (even though MC's PvT is less than stellar), while NesTea would probably roll MC, and get owned by MVP as per usual. It's a closer triumvirate than it looks like. MVP is quite bad at TvP relatively speaking. Kiwikaki took a game off him and protosses are what sent him into Code A. MC probably has the best, or at least one of the best, PvT's in the world so that either says a lot about other Korean protosses or says a lot about the matchup at that level. Alicia has better PvT than MC. MC's always been very shaky in PvT, although lately he seems to be recovering with heavy gateway play. I still think he'd have good chances vs MVP though, since his TvP is by far his worst matchup. All in all, imo NesTea > MC > MVP > NesTea The top 3 are really close in skill, so it's a tough call. NesTea wins by consistency though. No way, MC is better in PvT, stastically and just looking at game play. What terran has Alicia beaten that MC wouldn't? Just looking at gameplay, Alicia's PvT looks a LOT better than MC's. Statistically, Most of MC's wins vs T come from Open GSL era, when his PvT was actually invincible, while Alicia has recently defeated NaDa, MarineKing and MVP, the latter one in a Bo3 series, pretty nice record. he got 3-0'd by optimus prime though. atmitedly optimus has some great pvt though.
its hard to tell whether MC's pvt is bad (or relatively bad compared to his other two matchups)
I think just about every zerg and protoss has trouble with korean terrans
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Drewbie played awesome against MMA last night but can't seem to win a set.
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On July 31 2011 15:12 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:11 Gorlin wrote:
inc beat Choya, Choya beat Tod, Tod beat Alicia. Inc is therefore better at PvP than Alicia right? That's how it works right? Alicia beat MC, therefore Incontrol best Protoss in world. Yeah, that sounds about right..
Cruncher beat Inc so Cruncher is the best PvPer in the world 
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if idra did that, it would be the worst most malevolent bm ever.
Whitera does it, and it awesome gm!
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On July 31 2011 15:13 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:13 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 15:12 karis wrote:On July 31 2011 15:10 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 15:05 Jinivus wrote:On July 31 2011 15:02 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:58 Heavenly wrote:On July 31 2011 14:55 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:53 Ubes wrote:On July 31 2011 14:51 mordk wrote:
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Well, to be fair, SC history has always been terran favoured. 4/5 bonjwas are terran, now >50% of GSL players are terran. It's history rewritten.
At the very top the line is thinner though, Nestea, MC and MVP are still the top 3 players imo, and between them it would always be a tough call. It's not a tough call at all. Nestea is clearly the best. But according to TL Nestea is imba and Zerg is SOO underpowered. Hmmm... I'd agree NesTea is the best but they'd be very close series. For instance, MVP's TvP ain't so good so MC might have a decent chance (even though MC's PvT is less than stellar), while NesTea would probably roll MC, and get owned by MVP as per usual. It's a closer triumvirate than it looks like. MVP is quite bad at TvP relatively speaking. Kiwikaki took a game off him and protosses are what sent him into Code A. MC probably has the best, or at least one of the best, PvT's in the world so that either says a lot about other Korean protosses or says a lot about the matchup at that level. Alicia has better PvT than MC. MC's always been very shaky in PvT, although lately he seems to be recovering with heavy gateway play. I still think he'd have good chances vs MVP though, since his TvP is by far his worst matchup. All in all, imo NesTea > MC > MVP > NesTea The top 3 are really close in skill, so it's a tough call. NesTea wins by consistency though. No way, MC is better in PvT, stastically and just looking at game play. What terran has Alicia beaten that MC wouldn't? Just looking at gameplay, Alicia's PvT looks a LOT better than MC's. Statistically, Most of MC's wins vs T come from Open GSL era, when his PvT was actually invincible, while Alicia has recently defeated NaDa, MarineKing and MVP, the latter one in a Bo3 series, pretty nice record. he got 3-0'd by optimus prime though. atmitedly optimus has some great pvt though. Couldn't tell if he was joking or not. MC got crushed by polt too though. Polt has sick TvP Polt=Optimus. Mind=Blown?
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off topic - why EG didn't send Puma to MLG?
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Time for white-ra to get revenge for NASL. This time the special tactics shall not fail...
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Oh no! Terran have to L2Micro their medivacs!
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Drewbie so manner, whtie ra so manner, MLg so manner. Manner League Gaming
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jesus christ thats quite a lineup for whitera tomorrow
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whitera has played 25 games today...HOLY SHIZ. EPIC :D
he's yet to actually lose a bo3 in the entire event lol. dq doesn't count as a real bo3 loss!
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On July 31 2011 15:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:12 KimJongChill wrote:On July 31 2011 15:11 Gorlin wrote:
inc beat Choya, Choya beat Tod, Tod beat Alicia. Inc is therefore better at PvP than Alicia right? That's how it works right? Alicia beat MC, therefore Incontrol best Protoss in world. Yeah, that sounds about right.. cruncher beat incontrol cruncher is the best toss in the world.
IdrA beat Cruncher
Idra is the best ZvPer in the world
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Interview!
White-ra interview please!
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On July 31 2011 15:13 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:13 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 15:12 karis wrote:On July 31 2011 15:10 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 15:05 Jinivus wrote:On July 31 2011 15:02 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:58 Heavenly wrote:On July 31 2011 14:55 mordk wrote:On July 31 2011 14:53 Ubes wrote:On July 31 2011 14:51 mordk wrote:
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Well, to be fair, SC history has always been terran favoured. 4/5 bonjwas are terran, now >50% of GSL players are terran. It's history rewritten.
At the very top the line is thinner though, Nestea, MC and MVP are still the top 3 players imo, and between them it would always be a tough call. It's not a tough call at all. Nestea is clearly the best. But according to TL Nestea is imba and Zerg is SOO underpowered. Hmmm... I'd agree NesTea is the best but they'd be very close series. For instance, MVP's TvP ain't so good so MC might have a decent chance (even though MC's PvT is less than stellar), while NesTea would probably roll MC, and get owned by MVP as per usual. It's a closer triumvirate than it looks like. MVP is quite bad at TvP relatively speaking. Kiwikaki took a game off him and protosses are what sent him into Code A. MC probably has the best, or at least one of the best, PvT's in the world so that either says a lot about other Korean protosses or says a lot about the matchup at that level. Alicia has better PvT than MC. MC's always been very shaky in PvT, although lately he seems to be recovering with heavy gateway play. I still think he'd have good chances vs MVP though, since his TvP is by far his worst matchup. All in all, imo NesTea > MC > MVP > NesTea The top 3 are really close in skill, so it's a tough call. NesTea wins by consistency though. No way, MC is better in PvT, stastically and just looking at game play. What terran has Alicia beaten that MC wouldn't? Just looking at gameplay, Alicia's PvT looks a LOT better than MC's. Statistically, Most of MC's wins vs T come from Open GSL era, when his PvT was actually invincible, while Alicia has recently defeated NaDa, MarineKing and MVP, the latter one in a Bo3 series, pretty nice record. he got 3-0'd by optimus prime though. atmitedly optimus has some great pvt though. MC got crushed by polt too though. Polt has sick TvP Polt=Optimus. Mind=Blown?
Yeah, he took the optimus title by winning GSL Super Tournament. It was a Prime Clan rule, whoever won a tournament would be called optimus.
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Can't wait to see who knocks WhiteRa off the tournament.
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On July 31 2011 15:14 don_kyuhote wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:12 KimJongChill wrote:On July 31 2011 15:11 Gorlin wrote:
inc beat Choya, Choya beat Tod, Tod beat Alicia. Inc is therefore better at PvP than Alicia right? That's how it works right? Alicia beat MC, therefore Incontrol best Protoss in world. Yeah, that sounds about right.. Cruncher beat Inc so Cruncher is the best PvPer in the world
But MC beat Cruncher in the NASL playoffs.
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On July 31 2011 15:14 don_kyuhote wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 15:12 KimJongChill wrote:On July 31 2011 15:11 Gorlin wrote:
inc beat Choya, Choya beat Tod, Tod beat Alicia. Inc is therefore better at PvP than Alicia right? That's how it works right? Alicia beat MC, therefore Incontrol best Protoss in world. Yeah, that sounds about right.. Cruncher beat Inc so Cruncher is the best PvPer in the world
Naniwa beat Cruncher, therefore Naniwa is best.
Huk beat Naniwa. Therefore Huk is the best
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I hope white-ra wins the whole tourney... :D
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