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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#6001
Extended series is le suck. It's an awful rule. But that doesn't mean Tod didn't deserve his win, who knows how he would have played given different circumstances.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
July 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#6002
On July 31 2011 08:10 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:07 Antithesis wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:05 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:03 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:01 Telcontar wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:00 Baituri wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Hellions are like mutalisks, except faster, cost no gas, and kill workers 5x faster xD


And don't fly...

I would say they're more like banelings on wheels.

That don't explode when firing either :D.


That have a much longer range, but in a line.

They are kinda like ultralisks, but on wheels and cheaper and don't have claws, but shoot fire.

They are like carriers, but on ground, don't have interceptors, shoot blue flames, move faster, don't cost gas, take up less supply, don't come out of a stargate, and weren't in BW.


they are like vultures, cost more minerals, can't lay mines, don't have a speed upgrade, can't push themselves over pylons or through units. but their icon was updated 'now with more blue flames!'
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 23:16:15
July 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#6003
On July 31 2011 08:13 Failsafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:10 iamke55 wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:07 Antithesis wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:05 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:03 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:01 Telcontar wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:00 Baituri wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Hellions are like mutalisks, except faster, cost no gas, and kill workers 5x faster xD


And don't fly...

I would say they're more like banelings on wheels.

That don't explode when firing either :D.


That have a much longer range, but in a line.

They are kinda like ultralisks, but on wheels and cheaper and don't have claws, but shoot fire.

They are like carriers, but on ground, don't have interceptors, shoot blue flames, move faster, don't cost gas, take up less supply, don't come out of a stargate, and weren't in BW.


they are like vultures, cost more minerals, can't lay mines, don't have a speed upgrade, can't push themselves over pylons or through units. but their icon was updated 'now with more blue flames!'


They're like Blademaster, on wheels, with more speed, an AOE range attack, no lumber or gold cost, you can have more than one, and they come from the future. Scary shit I shit you not.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
July 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#6004
On July 31 2011 08:10 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:07 Antithesis wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:05 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:03 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:01 Telcontar wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:00 Baituri wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Hellions are like mutalisks, except faster, cost no gas, and kill workers 5x faster xD


And don't fly...

I would say they're more like banelings on wheels.

That don't explode when firing either :D.


That have a much longer range, but in a line.

They are kinda like ultralisks, but on wheels and cheaper and don't have claws, but shoot fire.

They are like carriers, but on ground, don't have interceptors, shoot blue flames, move faster, don't cost gas, take up less supply, don't come out of a stargate, and weren't in BW.

They are kind of like motherships, but don't fly, move three times faster, shoot only one beam of blue destruction, can actually do damage, have wheels instead of floating, aren't protoss units, don't come out of a nexus, can not be chronoboosted, but can be reactored, cost 2 supply, don't have spells, are less vulnerable to templar, are lower tech, are designed for proffesional play and cost only minerals.
Old lamps for new!
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 23:14:17
July 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#6005
MLG: We're taking a look at the upcoming Pool Play matches to determine the schedule. We'll have a revised hour by hour broadcast schedule for the afternoon up shortly.

Looks like I'll know if I should keep watching for a few more hours or call it a night. I'm hoping to catch Tyler-DRG and Ret-MMA.
Tyr1989
Profile Joined July 2011
United States10 Posts
July 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#6006
MLG still more fun to watch then GSL finals, even if not at a high level.
Terran is not OP, everyone else is UP.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6007
On July 31 2011 08:09 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:06 MandoRelease wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:05 Logros wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:02 Maghetti wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:58 drifting1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:56 Maghetti wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:51 drifting1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:50 Maghetti wrote:
SO basically, if there were no extended series, first match would have been 2-0 ToD, and the 2nd match would have been 1-2 Alicia, but instead it went to game a 6th game, and Alicia losses.....fuck extended series.


So you'd rather Alicia advance over Tod with a 2-3 record?

Would I rather the over all better player advance if it was 2-3? Yep.


That's an opinion, results are fact.

It is not an opinion. ToD has a 51% over all winrate in foreign events, that is, against far worse players. Alicia has a 58% win rate against koreans.

Fact is that ToD beat him in a straight up match this tournament. You can pull out statistics all you want but that doesn't change the fact that Alicia lost to ToD and thus played worse than him.


As long as tod loses next round, i'm happy. Couldn't care less who he beats. Just want him to lose

Lol isn't ToD French as well? Did he steal your girlfriend or something what is up with the hate?

He beat Alicia. That's almost as bad, dude.

Hahahaha, yeah. Anyways, I don't get the hate. I'm as big an Alicia fan as the next person, but ToD deserved his win, and I hope he gets all the way through to the finals, personally. He's a cool guy and was such a great WC3 legend back in the day. I've been waiting for him to put up results for a long time, so I'm glad he's performing so well at this MLG.
TaoTeKing
Profile Joined April 2011
France481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 23:14:16
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6008
what are the next games on blue and red pls guys?
ToD hell yeah^^
Zerg imba^^
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6009
and PvP isn't random ToD completely outplayed Alicia from the 2 replays i saw and also owned puzzle pretty bad in pvp yesterday
so maybe he is just good?
mb you should listen to some roterdam talking about pvp
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6010
On July 31 2011 08:11 roymarthyup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:08 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:05 Kevan wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:02 Maghetti wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:58 drifting1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:56 Maghetti wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:51 drifting1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:50 Maghetti wrote:
SO basically, if there were no extended series, first match would have been 2-0 ToD, and the 2nd match would have been 1-2 Alicia, but instead it went to game a 6th game, and Alicia losses.....fuck extended series.


So you'd rather Alicia advance over Tod with a 2-3 record?

Would I rather the over all better player advance if it was 2-3? Yep.


That's an opinion, results are fact.

It is not an opinion. ToD has a 51% over all winrate in foreign events, that is, against far worse players. Alicia has a 58% win rate against koreans.


Well maybe ToD has improved lately and he's now better than Nestea and MC combined.

The player who wins games should get the place in the tournament. If only that actually applied to MLG events instead of their ranking system basically making it near impossible for a person new to MLG to get into the groups and making it equally difficult for a player who plays decently at best to lose their group spot.... Players like SeleCT, drewbie, and TLO have successfully played horribly 2 MLGs in a row, yet I'm sure that a couple of them will still be in the groups next MLG. Yay for your broken system MLG!



agreed


its retarded how people who play badly in groups 1 tournament get to be in the groups next tournament



some kind of system needs to exist to possibly take 90% of the group players from each event and throw them out and replace them with winners of small mini tournies or something, which group players can play in


Or perhaps they are the weakest of the best players. They stay in the groups because they then subsequently also wreck the guys that come from the open bracket and are in the losers bracket. You guys are probably the same people that complained when the GSL was too volatile. You can't have it both ways.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6011
On July 31 2011 07:50 Maghetti wrote:
SO basically, if there were no extended series, first match would have been 2-0 ToD, and the 2nd match would have been 1-2 Alicia, but instead it went to game a 6th game, and Alicia losses.....fuck extended series.


ah well thats fair enough really. ToD is still 4-2 overall, and 3-2 at the point you are saying.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6012
On July 31 2011 08:11 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:05 Logros wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:02 Maghetti wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:58 drifting1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:56 Maghetti wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:51 drifting1 wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:50 Maghetti wrote:
SO basically, if there were no extended series, first match would have been 2-0 ToD, and the 2nd match would have been 1-2 Alicia, but instead it went to game a 6th game, and Alicia losses.....fuck extended series.


So you'd rather Alicia advance over Tod with a 2-3 record?

Would I rather the over all better player advance if it was 2-3? Yep.


That's an opinion, results are fact.

It is not an opinion. ToD has a 51% over all winrate in foreign events, that is, against far worse players. Alicia has a 58% win rate against koreans.

Fact is that ToD beat him in a straight up match this tournament. You can pull out statistics all you want but that doesn't change the fact that Alicia lost to ToD and thus played worse than him.

sc2 isn't as black and white as that. Lets look at the best example, Inca. Inca is capable of beating the very top protosses in pvp, yet he is barely a code A level player over all. He is only good in that match up. When Inca beats a top protoss, it is a loss for the tournament over all because that sort of player cannot beat the other races. Now I am not saying ToD cannot beat other races, just that Alicia across the 3 different match ups is proven to be a better player, so it is a loss for the tournament as a whole.


But it's a win for ToD. A win he deserved. By beating Alicia.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6013
alicia also beat losira and nestea back to back in team league and has shown a really nice PvT during the leagues also.

DRG to win anaheim and get code s imo!!!!!!
WCX
Profile Joined July 2011
74 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6014
man these guitar pieces from the MLG breaks are really starting to grow on me. anybody know if these songs are up on youtube, or if MLG has posted them somewhere?
Pengu
Profile Joined April 2011
England226 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6015
On July 31 2011 08:11 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:09 vilg wrote:
Anyone who watches the tod vs alicia reps would know that tod utterly outplayed alicia; don't look dumb saying alicia is better, at least not in PvP.


PvP is almost completely random. MC beat Nani, Nani beat MC, Huk beat Nani, Huk beat MC, Mc beat Huk, Alcia beat MC, Tod beat Alicia.

Anyone can beat anyoine in PvP. It means nothing.


Not so sure, But you have to admit, PvP is a fuck load more interesting these days, actually along with TvT starting to become my favourite matches where as before I couldn't stand watching them for the boredom.

SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6016
Ahah ToD said in his interview that Alicia looked down at him, cause ToD went to him to speak in corean, and Alicia asked him : what race do you play ? lol gg tod
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6017
On July 31 2011 08:10 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:07 Antithesis wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:05 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:03 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:01 Telcontar wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:00 Baituri wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:59 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Hellions are like mutalisks, except faster, cost no gas, and kill workers 5x faster xD


And don't fly...

I would say they're more like banelings on wheels.

That don't explode when firing either :D.


That have a much longer range, but in a line.

They are kinda like ultralisks, but on wheels and cheaper and don't have claws, but shoot fire.

They are like carriers, but on ground, don't have interceptors, shoot blue flames, move faster, don't cost gas, take up less supply, don't come out of a stargate, and weren't in BW.

WTF they're nothing like Carriers! Definitely more like Battlecruisers, but on ground, don't have lasers, shoot blue flames, move faster, don't cost gas, take up less supply, don't come out of a Starport, and weren't in BW. No idea where you got Carriers from...
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6018
Can someone link me to the Evo stream? Or is there not a Free one?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6019
On July 31 2011 08:10 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 08:04 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:04 Jyvblamo wrote:
On July 31 2011 08:03 Scrandom wrote:
Do they really have to do the "I'm djwheat and I'm day9" every single outro and intro?

It's for the audience that has Alzheimer's.


Or it's professional.


What sports do the commentator say their names before and after every commericial.

Its quite annoying imo.

Pretty much every commentator says their names right when they com back from commercial. And before the commercial they always say something like "this is the NFL on Fox" or "Your watching the NBA on ABC"

Its just a little sign on and off, happens everywhere dude.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
July 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#6020
On July 31 2011 08:14 Phats wrote:
alicia also beat losira and nestea back to back in team league and has shown a really nice PvT during the leagues also.

DRG to win anaheim and get code s imo!!!!!!


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