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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2011 22:16 GMT
#5361
k they mentioned the problem on the live blog, so hopefully it gets fixed.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
July 30 2011 22:16 GMT
#5362
DAWWWW
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5363
11 gates lololol what is going on
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5364
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5365
On July 31 2011 07:15 Pyskee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:13 setzer wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:11 Fleebenworth wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:09 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:06 karpo wrote:




To everyone who claims that being 30 somehow ruins your motor skills etc.

Both players are freakishly fast and accurate yet both are over 40.

Pointing out a few examples is not how to properly argue something.

Especially when, in BW, it is widely known that players can't legitimately compete anymore after a certain age.


So in order to refute an anecdote you present one of your own, only with less evidence. /facepalm


You can look at TLPD for evidence. There has been only a few progamers who have been able to compete at that age.

That doesn't necessarily mean they get worse, it might just mean they stop practicing as much because they stop caring. Correlation =/= Causation.


It is a combination of getting worse and younger players being better. There is mechanical deterioration for people who have progamers for a long period of time. That is a fact.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5366
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5367
On July 31 2011 07:17 Tachion wrote:
11 gates lololol what is going on

wrong thread bro
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5368
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select


3:00

Orbital half way done for ganzi
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5369
Select got to pick up his game X-X
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 22:18:28
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5370
edit: wrong thread.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5371
On July 31 2011 07:13 godemperor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:11 Fleebenworth wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:09 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:06 karpo wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0fv-KmxJSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qG9PZNJI_k

To everyone who claims that being 30 somehow ruins your motor skills etc.

Both players are freakishly fast and accurate yet both are over 40.

Pointing out a few examples is not how to properly argue something.

Especially when, in BW, it is widely known that players can't legitimately compete anymore after a certain age.


So in order to refute an anecdote you present one of your own, only with less evidence. /facepalm

not really, oldest MSL/OSL winner was 22 i think.


That ignores the fact that the growth of any body, be it human, dog, bird, lasagna, water, or fast food chains, is not something to which we can apply an absolute standard.

Some people may as well be Benjamin Button, whereas others will follow more common paths. That's still not to say that you cannot say it's uncommon for players to lose motor skills at the age of 20-whatever, but you cannot therefore say it applies to everybody.

Also, I believe it's not so much about age as it is the normalization of an outlier in terms of player success
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5372
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select


3:00

Orbital half way done for ganzi


3:20

Factory and orbital for select
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5373
11 gates on 2bases :/
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5374
On July 31 2011 07:16 Troublesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:15 Bashion wrote:
None of the streams are working for me

Someone help plz



Yeah can anyone at the event ask if tech guys are aware?

It's working for a ton of people
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5375
Just woke up. It's great that BoxeR has been very solid so far.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5376
On July 31 2011 07:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select


3:00

Orbital half way done for ganzi


3:20

Factory and orbital for select


3:40

Reaper on the way for Ganzi
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5377
On July 31 2011 07:15 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:05 syllogism wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:05 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:02 syllogism wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:00 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:57 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:54 happyness wrote:

On July 31 2011 06:50 kunstderfugue wrote:
My problem with InControl's manner: it seems forced. If he feels frustrated He doesn't need to be that mannered.


ROFL oh my.... what the hell is wrong with you?


my point of view is different to yours

I agree with your viewpoint, and would rather see those types of manners in games but all the time towards everyone just seems very forced. I would rather see more sincere manners then forced manner from Incontrol.

He has been doing this in tournaments forever. There is nothing forced about. You just don't understand incontrol, which is very common around here and reddit

That is why I say it is forced when he does it all the time. Also the funny thing you mentioned reddit because there is a post about him with the incontrol/sundance issue.

So wait is it also forced when Sheth does it

e: and I'm stunned people are trying to claim saying "you are amazing" to BOXER could possibly be forced

Well Sheth doesn't shit on people and then try to make up for it with fake gm at the end of broadcasted tourney games.

This basicly..Does Sheth have a history of being overly nice then just shit on people? No. Also I said earlier that the manner from playing boxer is probably not forced because after all it is boxer.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5378
On July 31 2011 07:14 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:09 Coutcha wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:08 Maliris wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:05 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:02 Maliris wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:59 Beyonder wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:59 Pyskee wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:57 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:55 Yaotzin wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:52 paradox_ wrote:
everyone hating on boxer should realize, hes in his 30s

him playing is basically the equivalent if bill russell was still playing in the nba and beating younger players (not to mention while dealing with a shoulder injury)

The age thing is a load of bullshit, you don't really become worse at video games when you age. You just get responsibilities, lose motivation etc and practice less.

The injury is a legitimate mitigating factor for him though, obviously.


You don't get worse at video games but your concentration, reaction time, and the muscle fibers to preform some actions wear down.

It's not bullshit.

Yeah, all that happens when you turn like 80. 30 years old is fucking young, dude.

Actually, some parts of your cognitive ability start declining at the age of 25

Videogames use a very small amount of mental ability, regardless of how difficult it may seem

the difference is negligible.

Do you mean physical ability? High level StarCraft is all about mind games and thinking. I'm fairly certain that it requires you to be intelligent and constantly alert.

Also MLG's system is so stupid, can't believe White-Ra missed his match, I know that things like that have angered a lot of pros like ThorZaIN and MorroW.

nope, I mean mental activity. Being a progamer is about constant practice and most of it is just reacting to situations you have already seen.

the brain is very inactive when playing videogames

Thiis last commentis sooooo stupid lol

lol? there is empirical evidence of the brain being inactive during videogames

please don't talk if you're clueless

I'm pretty sure that study was done during a CoD playtest.
$♥$
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5379
On July 31 2011 07:17 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:15 Pyskee wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:13 setzer wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:11 Fleebenworth wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:09 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:06 karpo wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0fv-KmxJSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qG9PZNJI_k

To everyone who claims that being 30 somehow ruins your motor skills etc.

Both players are freakishly fast and accurate yet both are over 40.

Pointing out a few examples is not how to properly argue something.

Especially when, in BW, it is widely known that players can't legitimately compete anymore after a certain age.


So in order to refute an anecdote you present one of your own, only with less evidence. /facepalm


You can look at TLPD for evidence. There has been only a few progamers who have been able to compete at that age.

That doesn't necessarily mean they get worse, it might just mean they stop practicing as much because they stop caring. Correlation =/= Causation.


It is a combination of getting worse and younger players being better. There is mechanical deterioration for people who have progamers for a long period of time. That is a fact.

*looks at Boxer*

hmmmmm
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5380
lol cruncher had no follow-up. food count shows it
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