• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:26
CEST 23:26
KST 06:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature3Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris11Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : I made a 5.0.12/5.0.13 replay fix
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL Maps with Neutral Command Centers Victoria gamers [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway How do the new Battle.net ranks translate?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 995 users

MLG Anaheim Day 2 RED Live Report Thread - Page 269

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 267 268 269 270 271 614 Next
Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2011 22:16 GMT
#5361
k they mentioned the problem on the live blog, so hopefully it gets fixed.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
July 30 2011 22:16 GMT
#5362
DAWWWW
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5363
11 gates lololol what is going on
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5364
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5365
On July 31 2011 07:15 Pyskee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:13 setzer wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:11 Fleebenworth wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:09 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:06 karpo wrote:




To everyone who claims that being 30 somehow ruins your motor skills etc.

Both players are freakishly fast and accurate yet both are over 40.

Pointing out a few examples is not how to properly argue something.

Especially when, in BW, it is widely known that players can't legitimately compete anymore after a certain age.


So in order to refute an anecdote you present one of your own, only with less evidence. /facepalm


You can look at TLPD for evidence. There has been only a few progamers who have been able to compete at that age.

That doesn't necessarily mean they get worse, it might just mean they stop practicing as much because they stop caring. Correlation =/= Causation.


It is a combination of getting worse and younger players being better. There is mechanical deterioration for people who have progamers for a long period of time. That is a fact.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5366
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5367
On July 31 2011 07:17 Tachion wrote:
11 gates lololol what is going on

wrong thread bro
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5368
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select


3:00

Orbital half way done for ganzi
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#5369
Select got to pick up his game X-X
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 22:18:28
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5370
edit: wrong thread.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5371
On July 31 2011 07:13 godemperor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:11 Fleebenworth wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:09 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:06 karpo wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0fv-KmxJSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qG9PZNJI_k

To everyone who claims that being 30 somehow ruins your motor skills etc.

Both players are freakishly fast and accurate yet both are over 40.

Pointing out a few examples is not how to properly argue something.

Especially when, in BW, it is widely known that players can't legitimately compete anymore after a certain age.


So in order to refute an anecdote you present one of your own, only with less evidence. /facepalm

not really, oldest MSL/OSL winner was 22 i think.


That ignores the fact that the growth of any body, be it human, dog, bird, lasagna, water, or fast food chains, is not something to which we can apply an absolute standard.

Some people may as well be Benjamin Button, whereas others will follow more common paths. That's still not to say that you cannot say it's uncommon for players to lose motor skills at the age of 20-whatever, but you cannot therefore say it applies to everybody.

Also, I believe it's not so much about age as it is the normalization of an outlier in terms of player success
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5372
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select


3:00

Orbital half way done for ganzi


3:20

Factory and orbital for select
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5373
11 gates on 2bases :/
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5374
On July 31 2011 07:16 Troublesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:15 Bashion wrote:
None of the streams are working for me

Someone help plz



Yeah can anyone at the event ask if tech guys are aware?

It's working for a ton of people
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5375
Just woke up. It's great that BoxeR has been very solid so far.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5376
On July 31 2011 07:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
First map on Shakuras plateau

In the bottom left is Ganzi

While in the bottom right is Select


2:00

Gas for select

Barracks then gas for Ganzi


2:30

Barracks on the way for select


3:00

Orbital half way done for ganzi


3:20

Factory and orbital for select


3:40

Reaper on the way for Ganzi
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5377
On July 31 2011 07:15 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:05 syllogism wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:05 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:02 syllogism wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:00 oogieogie wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:57 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:54 happyness wrote:

On July 31 2011 06:50 kunstderfugue wrote:
My problem with InControl's manner: it seems forced. If he feels frustrated He doesn't need to be that mannered.


ROFL oh my.... what the hell is wrong with you?


my point of view is different to yours

I agree with your viewpoint, and would rather see those types of manners in games but all the time towards everyone just seems very forced. I would rather see more sincere manners then forced manner from Incontrol.

He has been doing this in tournaments forever. There is nothing forced about. You just don't understand incontrol, which is very common around here and reddit

That is why I say it is forced when he does it all the time. Also the funny thing you mentioned reddit because there is a post about him with the incontrol/sundance issue.

So wait is it also forced when Sheth does it

e: and I'm stunned people are trying to claim saying "you are amazing" to BOXER could possibly be forced

Well Sheth doesn't shit on people and then try to make up for it with fake gm at the end of broadcasted tourney games.

This basicly..Does Sheth have a history of being overly nice then just shit on people? No. Also I said earlier that the manner from playing boxer is probably not forced because after all it is boxer.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5378
On July 31 2011 07:14 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:09 Coutcha wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:08 Maliris wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:05 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:02 Maliris wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:59 Beyonder wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:59 Pyskee wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:57 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:55 Yaotzin wrote:
On July 31 2011 06:52 paradox_ wrote:
everyone hating on boxer should realize, hes in his 30s

him playing is basically the equivalent if bill russell was still playing in the nba and beating younger players (not to mention while dealing with a shoulder injury)

The age thing is a load of bullshit, you don't really become worse at video games when you age. You just get responsibilities, lose motivation etc and practice less.

The injury is a legitimate mitigating factor for him though, obviously.


You don't get worse at video games but your concentration, reaction time, and the muscle fibers to preform some actions wear down.

It's not bullshit.

Yeah, all that happens when you turn like 80. 30 years old is fucking young, dude.

Actually, some parts of your cognitive ability start declining at the age of 25

Videogames use a very small amount of mental ability, regardless of how difficult it may seem

the difference is negligible.

Do you mean physical ability? High level StarCraft is all about mind games and thinking. I'm fairly certain that it requires you to be intelligent and constantly alert.

Also MLG's system is so stupid, can't believe White-Ra missed his match, I know that things like that have angered a lot of pros like ThorZaIN and MorroW.

nope, I mean mental activity. Being a progamer is about constant practice and most of it is just reacting to situations you have already seen.

the brain is very inactive when playing videogames

Thiis last commentis sooooo stupid lol

lol? there is empirical evidence of the brain being inactive during videogames

please don't talk if you're clueless

I'm pretty sure that study was done during a CoD playtest.
$♥$
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5379
On July 31 2011 07:17 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 07:15 Pyskee wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:13 setzer wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:11 Fleebenworth wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:09 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 31 2011 07:06 karpo wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0fv-KmxJSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qG9PZNJI_k

To everyone who claims that being 30 somehow ruins your motor skills etc.

Both players are freakishly fast and accurate yet both are over 40.

Pointing out a few examples is not how to properly argue something.

Especially when, in BW, it is widely known that players can't legitimately compete anymore after a certain age.


So in order to refute an anecdote you present one of your own, only with less evidence. /facepalm


You can look at TLPD for evidence. There has been only a few progamers who have been able to compete at that age.

That doesn't necessarily mean they get worse, it might just mean they stop practicing as much because they stop caring. Correlation =/= Causation.


It is a combination of getting worse and younger players being better. There is mechanical deterioration for people who have progamers for a long period of time. That is a fact.

*looks at Boxer*

hmmmmm
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#5380
lol cruncher had no follow-up. food count shows it
Prev 1 267 268 269 270 271 614 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 387
Nathanias 86
UpATreeSC 63
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3098
Bisu 869
Shuttle 625
ggaemo 321
Soulkey 156
Hyuk 72
scan(afreeca) 22
Dota 2
monkeys_forever356
League of Legends
Reynor110
rGuardiaN25
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K725
Foxcn282
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King39
Other Games
tarik_tv12215
gofns11115
FrodaN1202
C9.Mang0193
Sick158
shahzam123
ZombieGrub72
Trikslyr40
PPMD36
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 39
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 62
• davetesta57
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22118
League of Legends
• Doublelift4180
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur216
Other Games
• imaqtpie1291
• WagamamaTV330
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
13h 34m
BSL Team Wars
21h 34m
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
1d 5h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 12h
SC Evo League
1d 14h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 15h
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
CSO Cup
1d 18h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
herO vs TBD
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.