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On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win.
ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir
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On July 31 2011 05:36 Maghetti wrote: I have seen that attack not beat, but one sidedly wtfpwnroflstomp every single korean protoss but on stream and the GSL and now the MLG, I have only seen it held one time ever, by MC, barely...
And it has me 12 wins out of 13 games vP on ladder in season 3 <3 <3
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On July 31 2011 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win. ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir You have more than 4 zealots if you don't expand. It covers the Nexus cost yeah but if you don't expand you're powering tech/units .
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On July 31 2011 05:37 EmilA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:36 Maghetti wrote: I have seen that attack not beat, but one sidedly wtfpwnroflstomp every single korean protoss but on stream and the GSL and now the MLG, I have only seen it held one time ever, by MC, barely... And it has me 12 wins out of 13 games vP on ladder in season 3 <3 <3 Puzzle has held it, Choya showed if you get a harass in first then you can hold it cause it's weaker, etc.
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On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win. ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir You have more than 4 zealots if you don't expand. It covers the Nexus cost yeah but if you don't expand you're powering tech/units .
You're not powering any tech with only 2 gas.
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Tommie you should do the LR in here
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On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win. ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir You have more than 4 zealots if you don't expand. It covers the Nexus cost yeah but if you don't expand you're powering tech/units .
haha ok protoss certainly has a lot of possibilities with 2 gas <3
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On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:37 EmilA wrote:On July 31 2011 05:36 Maghetti wrote: I have seen that attack not beat, but one sidedly wtfpwnroflstomp every single korean protoss but on stream and the GSL and now the MLG, I have only seen it held one time ever, by MC, barely... And it has me 12 wins out of 13 games vP on ladder in season 3 <3 <3 Puzzle has held it, Choya showed if you get a harass in first then you can hold it cause it's weaker, etc.
Choya prevented it with the exact same harass that Oz just had, but the difference was close-air positions. Without the close-air that Choya had, you end up with what we just saw.
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On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:37 EmilA wrote:On July 31 2011 05:36 Maghetti wrote: I have seen that attack not beat, but one sidedly wtfpwnroflstomp every single korean protoss but on stream and the GSL and now the MLG, I have only seen it held one time ever, by MC, barely... And it has me 12 wins out of 13 games vP on ladder in season 3 <3 <3 Puzzle has held it, Choya showed if you get a harass in first then you can hold it cause it's weaker, etc.
Imo at equal skill lvl it's almost an autowin. But some toss openings are great vs it (3g vr, Stargate opening, DT opening isn't bad because there is a banshee before the raven)
On July 31 2011 05:39 Ryzu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:On July 31 2011 05:37 EmilA wrote:On July 31 2011 05:36 Maghetti wrote: I have seen that attack not beat, but one sidedly wtfpwnroflstomp every single korean protoss but on stream and the GSL and now the MLG, I have only seen it held one time ever, by MC, barely... And it has me 12 wins out of 13 games vP on ladder in season 3 <3 <3 Puzzle has held it, Choya showed if you get a harass in first then you can hold it cause it's weaker, etc. Choya prevented it with the exact same harass that Oz just had, but the difference was close-air positions. Without the close-air that Choya had, you end up with what we just saw.
same pos in both games.
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2 more gates going down for toss. rain researching stim
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On July 31 2011 05:39 Ryzu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:On July 31 2011 05:37 EmilA wrote:On July 31 2011 05:36 Maghetti wrote: I have seen that attack not beat, but one sidedly wtfpwnroflstomp every single korean protoss but on stream and the GSL and now the MLG, I have only seen it held one time ever, by MC, barely... And it has me 12 wins out of 13 games vP on ladder in season 3 <3 <3 Puzzle has held it, Choya showed if you get a harass in first then you can hold it cause it's weaker, etc. Choya prevented it with the exact same harass that Oz just had, but the difference was close-air positions. Without the close-air that Choya had, you end up with what we just saw.
But...they were close air >_>
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On July 31 2011 05:38 Ryzu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:On July 31 2011 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win. ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir You have more than 4 zealots if you don't expand. It covers the Nexus cost yeah but if you don't expand you're powering tech/units . You're not powering any tech with only 2 gas. you've never heard of one base colossus?
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twilight council going down
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On July 31 2011 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win. ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir
That expand didn't do anything during the game, he didn't even have any probes mining there. =P
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who here is watching both streams?
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On July 31 2011 05:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 05:38 Ryzu wrote:On July 31 2011 05:37 DystopiaX wrote:On July 31 2011 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:On July 31 2011 05:33 Tommie wrote:On July 31 2011 05:32 AsnSensation wrote: this terran "timing" attack is starting to become really ridiculous And we keep seeing protoss expand against the strongest 1base any race has and expect to win. ah ok so you're saying instead of that nexus he could have warped in 4 more zealots and win that engagement? ok sir You have more than 4 zealots if you don't expand. It covers the Nexus cost yeah but if you don't expand you're powering tech/units . You're not powering any tech with only 2 gas. you've never heard of one base colossus?
You cant go colossus against that. Banshees will stomp you. Especially cause you wont have enough stalkers to deal with them. Even if you have enough stalkers, PDD will nullify them.
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I have both on as well both EVO streams but I only have one on with sound at any given time.
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On July 31 2011 05:44 RaiKageRyu wrote: I have both on as well both EVO streams but I only have one on with sound at any given time.
me too lol
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