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Live report thread equals no balance whining; Balance whining equals warnings and bans!
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 11:01:22
July 20 2011 10:57 GMT
#1221
On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.


rofl... what does that even mean... If one were to analyze all the games in tournaments zerg win, how would one come to the conclusion that zerg is underpowered when they won, isn't that the point of the game, to win? And then stats backing up the small sample of a tournament result mean nothing too? I guess we just analyze the games where idra loses and thats how balance is determined kk idra logic ftw.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 20 2011 10:57 GMT
#1222
On July 20 2011 19:42 Fig wrote:
Not enough zergs just make mass roaches and actually use burrow micro.

Because protoss has a unit that can move and detect? Seriously, burrow micro generally does nothing under detection because units keep attacking burrowed unit. It's not like blink micro.

On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Protoss players don't stand out nearly as much as Terran and Zerg players in terms of skill. Requirements for being a decent toss with a decent success is not too much (well, we got Tester and HongUn who are "decent" protosses with decent success, but skillwise, they don't nearly stand out as much as Losira or NesTea; or Terran players Bomber or Byun). That's why we see people like Tester and HongUn in code s q-finals and s-finals and code a finalists like Tassadar. Puzzle is good though, we might see him in ro8 or ro4 in next code s with an outstanding gameplay.

On July 20 2011 19:39 Tachion wrote:
140 supply to 70 without an engagement lol

Zergs tend to go out of control as long as they don't receive pressure, and the fact that map is Terminus and opponent is Tester helps too.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1223
On July 20 2011 19:56 Medrea wrote:
OH

Uh I think guinea pig is protoss now switching from Random. Does that count?


Guinea switch from Protoss to Terran primary. He just Randoms in the GSTL cause his coach asked him too.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1224
On July 20 2011 19:53 tyrless wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.


Yes this is important: when discussing balance with a perpetual balance whiner, facts are irrelevant to the anecdotal evidence. One must analyze only one's own subjective experiences to determine balance and not consider the consistent, objective data.

NOPE



Er... No.

He means you can't look at a handful of games as "anecdotal evidence" lol....

Hey, Terran has appeared heavily in a couple GSLs. Does that mean I can use that as anecdotal evidence haha? Your idea makes a little sense on the surface, but I'd you think about it, it's actually too shallow and meaningless to use results of a tournament as an indicator of anything.

NOPE
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1225
Ok lets do this

Byun vs Bomber

Game One is on Terminus

Byun is in the left position

While Bomber is in the south
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1226
her pronounciation of bomber makes me cringe every time
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1227
On July 20 2011 19:56 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:55 Autotroph wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:51 Seditary wrote:
Instead of having the finals at that university they should hold them at that water park.

Oh. My. God.
Players enter down water slides, casters in trunks and sunglasses. It's all starting to come together...


This. Is. Brilliant.


Spectators in a pool, floating on lilos and shit, and if it gets to a game 7 they turn the wave machine on.
textbookcovers.tumblr.com
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1228
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Ok lets do this

Byun vs Bomber

Game One is on Terminus

Byun is in the left position

While Bomber is in the south


3:00

Bomber has his gas and is starting a factory
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
July 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#1229
Every LR thread: rawr rawr rawr rawr rawr rawr ballance rawr rawr rawr ur always wrong rawr etc etc.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 20 2011 10:59 GMT
#1230
On July 20 2011 19:58 TAMinator wrote:
her pronounciation of bomber makes me cringe every time

See the BomBers fly up, up!
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 20 2011 10:59 GMT
#1231
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Ok lets do this

Byun vs Bomber

Game One is on Terminus

Byun is in the left position

While Bomber is in the south


3:00

Bomber has his gas and is starting a factory


4:00

Double gas for Byun as he expands
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 20 2011 10:59 GMT
#1232
On July 20 2011 19:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Ok lets do this

Byun vs Bomber

Game One is on Terminus

Byun is in the left position

While Bomber is in the south


3:00

Bomber has his gas and is starting a factory


4:00

Double gas for Byun as he expands


4:40

Tech lab and a starport starting for Bomber
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
July 20 2011 10:59 GMT
#1233
On July 20 2011 19:55 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:54 Mios wrote:
has anyone ever successfully switched to protoss in sc2?


Like a high level pro?

Artosis switched to Protoss but totally plays it like a zerg.


emphasis on successfully
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1234
Everytime that girl says "Startale Bomber" and giggles right after, i feel in love.
I've got moves like Jagger
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1235
On July 20 2011 19:58 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:56 Medrea wrote:
OH

Uh I think guinea pig is protoss now switching from Random. Does that count?


Guinea switch from Protoss to Terran primary. He just Randoms in the GSTL cause his coach asked him too.


Ah ok. Thank you. So thats actually a good point, very few people have switched to Protoss if any.

That being said, it is extremely rare to see people switch races. And I am not sure why since I dont think the game is so huge you can't learn more than one.

The again, I have always felt that the race chooses the player, the player actually has no choice in what race they use.
twitch.tv/medrea
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
July 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#1236
On July 20 2011 19:53 Zinthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:45 EvilSky wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:43 Dubpace wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:42 EvilSky wrote:
Tester could have just went into Losiras bases with the dts and won... no way he could have known it tho


Wait, you know he was still dropping DTs during all of that right?

If he hadnt waited for the warp prism and just warped the dts closer he could have just raped since Losira didnt have spores. Im not talking about the end of the game.


Not likely. Losira morphed the overseer the moment he saw the DT's coming from the middle of the map. A player of his caliber who's already on lair tech isn't going to lose too much to DT's when he can quickly pop overseers and has a huge roach army hanging around.

Even if he had killed 10 more drones than he did, it probably wouldn't have been enough to stop Losira from killing him.

I think that was way too early to go for DT play in that matchup -- MC had the right idea when he used them against Sen very late in their metalopolis game in the NASL semis. If Trickster had gone for the robo bay + thermal lance first instead of DT's he'd have been able to hold Losira's roach attack and save his third. No guarantee of a win, but the game would go on.

How good he is doesnt matter much,when 3 dts come into his base and he doesnt have an overseer already hes gonna suffer and need to replenish drones afterward anyway instead of massing roaches. The only reason he could go and kill him like that was that Tricksters attack was completely deflected.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1237
On July 20 2011 19:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Ok lets do this

Byun vs Bomber

Game One is on Terminus

Byun is in the left position

While Bomber is in the south


3:00

Bomber has his gas and is starting a factory


4:00

Double gas for Byun as he expands


4:40

Tech lab and a starport starting for Bomber


6:00

Bomber is getting cloak and banshees while expanding

Byun is making his own starport and tech lab
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1238
On July 20 2011 19:59 Mios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:55 Medrea wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:54 Mios wrote:
has anyone ever successfully switched to protoss in sc2?


Like a high level pro?

Artosis switched to Protoss but totally plays it like a zerg.


emphasis on successfully


I dunno he beat grubby in NASL.


and that was it though
twitch.tv/medrea
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#1239
On July 20 2011 20:01 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Ok lets do this

Byun vs Bomber

Game One is on Terminus

Byun is in the left position

While Bomber is in the south


3:00

Bomber has his gas and is starting a factory


4:00

Double gas for Byun as he expands


4:40

Tech lab and a starport starting for Bomber


6:00

Bomber is getting cloak and banshees while expanding

Byun is making his own starport and tech lab


7:00

Bomber killing a lot of scvs and marines

Byun is getting blue flame hellions and a Ebay
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 20 2011 11:02 GMT
#1240
That was definitely a weird cloak. Had to be a mistake -_-
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
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