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Live report thread equals no balance whining; Balance whining equals warnings and bans!
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 20 2011 10:50 GMT
#1161
Afrojack - take over control

Do it
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1162
On July 20 2011 19:50 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.

Believe me, even if Zerg win the next 3 GSL, Idra would still whine, cos people regards him as one of the best zerg in the Western world, but he didn't archive anything much after hes back in the US...
he will whine untill he got his big title

Zerg could have 4 bonjwas and Idra would still whine.

Yepp hahha, like he did about terran in BW :D
Moderator
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1163
On July 20 2011 19:47 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:45 Sleed wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:42 Ribbon wrote:
YES!

Okay.

So the Semis will have

The sitting Code S champion (Nestea won the last "proper" GSL)
Losira, a Code A champion
EITHER Byun, a code A champion, or Bomber, a long-feared monster.

And ZoidbergPrime


Correction:

Bomber, a long feared monster AND the last Code A champion.

Byun: nothing to say


Oh, oops.

Okay, so

1. The sitting Code S champion
2. A former Code A champion
3. Either a Code A champion or a Code A silver medalist
4. And Zoidberg


Poor HongUn =p

He might not look like the most talented player on paper but this is his second time in a GSL semifinals, and he's made the 1/4s on two further occasions. Arguably the second most accomplished toss in the GSL now.

It's going to be a good semifinal line up whatever happens here, and hopefully an awesome finals.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 10:52:35
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1164
On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
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On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.

That's his opinion on balance, but results are results and when you have multiple zergs making it deep in tournaments and winning that just proves there's no glaring balance issues. Some few things may actually be very strong at this moment against a certain race but the game is changing so why the fuck would you mess with it?

We're talking about the guy who complained about terran in sc1 and then without any major changes flash and multiple other terrans have dominated at certain points.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1165
So the 3rd mirror match in those ro8,but at least it's the best mirror.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Yuriegh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States327 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1166
Is it me or does the opening sound like Sportscenter?
I got shot through a place not long ago I thought I knew the place so well
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1167
On July 20 2011 19:49 EvilSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:46 Caphe wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:42 EvilSky wrote:
Tester could have just went into Losiras bases with the dts and won... no way he could have known it tho


Tester was trying to harrass with dts in Losira's base the whole time... even while Losira's roaches were killing him off.

He never even got the spawning pool, lol.

He walked his 3 DT across that map...and a dt KILLED a zergling in the middle of the map, Losira had no idea before that, but all that 10 secs is enough for him to make an oversee.

If Tester did not make that one mistake, he can do some serious damage to Losira

Yeah Tester actually waited for a while after the shrine was done, made the prism, warped his dts in his natural and walked across the huge map, got spotted by Losira and gave him enough time to totally deflect his attack, the timing was there but the execution was horrid :/
Why do you keep breaking my heart Tester ...

yeah, I was like WTF Tester just warp some DTs in already when his shrine was done...and the moment his dt killed the zergling...I was like omg this is just so bad and I know its over when an oversee is morphing above a trillion of roach in front of Losira's base
Terran
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1168
On July 20 2011 19:49 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:48 Asha` wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:46 pdd wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:45 Sleed wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:42 Ribbon wrote:
YES!

Okay.

So the Semis will have

The sitting Code S champion (Nestea won the last "proper" GSL)
Losira, a Code A champion
EITHER Byun, a code A champion, or Bomber, a long-feared monster.

And ZoidbergPrime


Correction:

Bomber, a long feared monster AND the last Code A champion.

Byun: nothing to say

Well, Byun's a Code A runner up and a solid Code S Terran, who beat Nada and MVP in TvTs and is looking extremely good this season.


Don't forget sC.

In fact if Byun beats Bomber in a TvT here that would be one of the most impressive mirror match win streaks around.

MVP/sC/Nada/Bomber is a fearsome line up.


And if he does do that, people still won't give him any credit. >.<'



Him and Optimus can compete for least credited top level player!
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1169
On July 20 2011 19:50 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.

Believe me, even if Zerg win the next 3 GSL, Idra would still whine, cos people regards him as one of the best zerg in the Western world, but he didn't archive anything much after hes back in the US...
he will whine untill he got his big title

Zerg could have 4 bonjwas and Idra would still whine.


There just better than everyone else. As zerg you need to have a MASSIVE skill advantage to beat protoss or terran.

+ Show Spoiler +
No you don't. Same skill
twitch.tv/medrea
BrettWalking
Profile Joined December 2010
United States18 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1170
0:00 Artosis tickles Tasteless' throat.
I'm a rocket man burning out his fuse up here alone.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
July 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#1171
Instead of having the finals at that university they should hold them at that water park.
Love is more fun than hate.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 20 2011 10:52 GMT
#1172
On July 20 2011 19:50 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.

Believe me, even if Zerg win the next 3 GSL, Idra would still whine, cos people regards him as one of the best zerg in the Western world, but he didn't archive anything much after hes back in the US...
he will whine untill he got his big title

Zerg could have 4 bonjwas and Idra would still whine.


See: Terran in Brood War
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
July 20 2011 10:52 GMT
#1173
On July 20 2011 19:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:49 Rykros wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:45 densha wrote:
Since this is the GSL, HongUn should beat Nestea and advance to the finals so we can have a quick 4-0 for Losira or Bomber. You heard it here first.


look at this dumb folk

I get the feeling like you didn't get his post, or I'm not getting yours.


right , we are all waiting for a 4-0 win in final with hongun being the loser ...?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 20 2011 10:52 GMT
#1174
On July 20 2011 19:50 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:49 Caphe wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:47 alepov wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:43 Jakkerr wrote:
We NEED to get Idra on SOTG if we get a ZvZ final this season.

''So Idra, zerg underpowered?''

Already been discussed multiple times (also with idra), stats and results don't mean anything when you're discussing balance. One should analyze the games instead.

Believe me, even if Zerg win the next 3 GSL, Idra would still whine, cos people regards him as one of the best zerg in the Western world, but he didn't archive anything much after hes back in the US...
he will whine untill he got his big title

Zerg could have 4 bonjwas and Idra would still whine.


Btw did idra ever whine about bw?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
July 20 2011 10:52 GMT
#1175
Noooooooooooooo Tester!!! Oh well a ZvT in semi and a ZvP on other side, hope its not a zvz final As nestea said in his interview, boring.......
Live and Let Die!
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
July 20 2011 10:52 GMT
#1176
I think Byun is going to win, he's wants his puppy and Bomber is not going to deny him that right.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#1177
Byun is always so gangily happy
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 10:53:48
July 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#1178
Byun/Bomber played a lot of Ro32 matches this GSL. Terran imba.
Never make a hydralisk.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 10:54:33
July 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#1179
On July 20 2011 19:49 cyclone25 wrote:
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On July 20 2011 19:45 TheKefka wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:43 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:40 TheKefka wrote:
And this dear zergs is why you need to put,what you would call All-in,pressure on the zerg.


Do u call what that a standard build? It was a semi-all in from Tester, because if he does no damage he will lose.
Don't post comments on balance if you have zero understanding of the game.


First of all it was not a balance whine and second,all this time in the thread zergs were calling out trickster for doing allins versus the zerg.Well there is what happens when you don't make a solid 12 min push and tech to much.You get overrun by roaches.
Don't post comment if you have zero understanding of the matchup scrub.


You said that if protoss doesn't do an all-in he loses. That means you're complaining about balance, because that's not how the game is supposed to work.
He got overrun by roaches because he had no immortals/sentry/etc. to counter them. He invested a lot in DTs and warp prism.
It's very simple to understand why he lost, but not for you it seems. I feel sorry for you dude ...


And this dear zergs is why you need to put,what you would call All-in,pressure on the zerg.

You see that bold up there.That was a joke about zergs calling every mid game push a allin.It had nothing to do about balance.I understand your from Romania but your english is not that bad that you wouldn't understand what i wrote so don't take things out of context.If you miss read something that's your fault.
I very well understand why he lost but you started taking shots at me for making balance comments which i never did.I was just making fun of zergs whining all the time.
Cackle™
Zinthar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 10:53:50
July 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#1180
On July 20 2011 19:45 EvilSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 19:43 Dubpace wrote:
On July 20 2011 19:42 EvilSky wrote:
Tester could have just went into Losiras bases with the dts and won... no way he could have known it tho


Wait, you know he was still dropping DTs during all of that right?

If he hadnt waited for the warp prism and just warped the dts closer he could have just raped since Losira didnt have spores. Im not talking about the end of the game.


Not likely. Losira morphed the overseer the moment he saw the DT's coming from the middle of the map. A player of his caliber who's already on lair tech isn't going to lose too much to DT's when he can quickly pop overseers and has a huge roach army hanging around.

Even if he had killed 10 more drones than he did, it probably wouldn't have been enough to stop Losira from killing him.

I think that was way too early to go for DT play in that matchup -- MC had the right idea when he used them against Sen very late in their metalopolis game in the NASL semis. If Trickster had gone for the robo bay + thermal lance first instead of DT's he'd have been able to hold Losira's roach attack and save his third. No guarantee of a win, but the game would go on.
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