NASL Grand Finals Day 1 - Page 931

On July 09 2011 13:22 kevinmon wrote:
artosis is vegetarian??

On July 09 2011 13:26 Daralii wrote:

He's turning into a protoss irl.

On July 09 2011 13:20 Ramuh wrote:


Yeah, like 10am when we have to work and stuff

On July 09 2011 13:26 Ezekyle wrote:

Would the greatest nerd to have ever lived be anything else?

On July 09 2011 13:25 zEnVy wrote:



That's pretty much the only thing we're good at.

On July 09 2011 13:26 Ezekyle wrote:

Would the greatest nerd to have ever lived be anything else?

On July 09 2011 13:20 HolyArrow wrote:



I strongly disagree. I feel that Alive played pretty badly and honestly Darkforce had a pretty easy win in the 3rd game.

Before people crucify me for saying that, let me just elaborate on my argument. Perhaps a more experienced player can totally prove me wrong, but for now, I'm convinced that Alive straight up played terribly.

As far as I know, you have to pressure Zerg. Or he'll just expand all over the map, and have so many resources that he can replenish his army over and over again (not that it mattered, because Alive handled every engagement so badly that Darkforce ended up ahead in supply in many of those engagements. No EMPs on infestors, which was CRITICAL. We know players at Alive's level are capable of great EMPs - Byun vs. Zenio is a great example of that. But Alive just let himself get fungled into oblivion).

Anyway, a huge digression there. After that heavy helion opening, Alive literally sat on his ass, let Darkforce spread creep all over the map, and expand all over the place, while Alive turtled to 200. I'm not even a good player, but I'm pretty sure you're really NOT supposed to do that. Darkforce didn't have to deal with ANY sort of harassment after Alive's opening. He was able to comfortably drone up, pump out units, expand everywhere, spread creep everywhere, and Alive just turtled all the way to 200/200. Then when the battles began, all Darkforce had to do is cast fungal everywhere, which isn't hard to do. I'm not trying to downplay DarkForce's battle management, but I honestly think AoE spells in general are easy to do (I'm a Toss player who loves HT play, and yeah... Fungals and Storms are simply easy to pull off, even though people love to hype them whenever they're casted. Press key -> click). From there, it looked like DarkForce a-moved to crush Alive's army because Alive just doesn't know how to EMP infestors.

If someone can explain why Alive did what he did and failed so hard at EMPing other than "he just messed up really badly", then I'm genuinely curious to hear an explanation.

Bottom line: Darkforce played fine - he macroed well, and he had free reign to fungal everything since Alive seemed to not have the ability to EMP anything. But Alive didn't make Darkforce really fall under any pressure after the hellion opening. He left DarkForce to just macro and creep spread comfortably all the way until they were both maxed, and then failed all the battles really badly by not EMPing anything. A deserved win for sure, but not very impressive to me since I perceive Alive as playing really badly.

On July 09 2011 13:24 ggrrg wrote:


Yes, foU that calls itself home to Leenock and sC among others.

Alive is top 50 on the Korean GM league, has 62% wins in Korean tournaments and made it to second place in the NASL open tournament. All of these suggest that he obviously isn't the mediocre player you make him out to be.

On July 09 2011 13:24 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
holy fuck i just got home and this is still going on