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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11781
On June 20 2011 05:38 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
You can't drop on metalopolis, MC's whole army was in his base. He had more roaches at the start of the final battle than MC had stalkers, yet MC only loses like 1/3 of his stalkers. Yep, blink is completely broken.


what are you talking about Idra beat MC WITH DROPS at MLG on METALOPOLIS.

God these post-idra loss posts hurt my brain.


yeah cause that game and this game are identical, right?
god these idra fanboy posts hurt my brain.
Frugalicious
Profile Joined June 2010
United States121 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11782
On June 20 2011 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:32 shaman6ix wrote:
go ahaid brainwashed idra minions, whine about balance despite idra playing painfully bad

70 food lead = bad play? oh, wow, idra haters are just as bad as idra lovers.


70 food lead in lings, roaches, and drones is meaningless. Those are very cheap and easy to max out own relative to upgraded DTs, Stalker, and Sentries. MC's army was much more expensive and more upgraded than Idra's. If Idra won with a smaller, less expensive, and less upgraded army than MC, then there would be something wrong with this game.

Idra also through away a lot of units on several occasions in the last few minutes of that game. He easily lost 50+ food doing nothing (Early burrow w/o movement, poor rally point). So that can be considered "bad play". There honestly shouldn't be a surprise that Idra lost the game. MC played much more efficiently than Idra.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11783
you can't claim "I'm sorry that IdrA can't win with one unit" when MC won with a handfull of sentries (comparable to the handfull of lings by idra) and mass stalkers


and immortals... and DTs....

godddddd
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11784
On June 20 2011 05:32 shaman6ix wrote:
go ahaid brainwashed idra minions, whine about balance despite idra playing painfully bad


The only whine I'll make is for Idra. MC is clearly in Idras head. I dont think he is able to beat MC no matter what atm. And even though I'm a dedicated Idra fan, he plays a very outdated style vs protoss.
As I said earlier: The zerglings are pivotal in ZvP when your opponent doesn't go the collosus route! If Idra would have spent the larvae and resources on zerglings instead of useless hydras it could have looked a lot different!
Ariovist
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany430 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11785
So, which idiot schedule that most interesting matches for MONDAY, a day, where normal people have to work -.-
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11786
Roach is not a good unit in the midgame because it's too supply intensive. I mean, it costs half the gas and almost half the minerals of a Stalker but is still the same supply.

It's IdrA's fault for massing them though.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11787
Poor HuK, he has to play Socke once again. Will he be able to dispel the curse ?
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
IBCloaked
Profile Joined June 2010
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 20:41:06
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11788
Good Games all around though I cant believe Idra still doing the roach hydra and expects to win he needs to come up on the meta game or something no zerg in thier right mind goes pure roach agaisnt stalkers.....blink ones at that and look what happens HUGE lead dies instantly because Idra and I quote him hates infestors.... Cant wait to see the rest DH is amazing ^_^
eunao2
Profile Joined June 2011
Portugal21 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11789
GG's to everyone who got through
MLQ10
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada40 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11790
I'm not a fan of Idra but I respect his ability as a SC2 player. He's a very talented player but I don't think he is in the level of MC, Nestea. I think he has the potential to be a great player and challenge the titans but as of right now I don't see Idra's loss to MC as a surprise. MC is a far superior player that's not to say that Idra is bad and like I already stated, he has the potential to cause damage. His level of play also resembles how bad the NA server and what makes it worse is that his team (no disrespect to EG) is not good enough to help Idra improve. Unless he starts practicing with top tier players, he will continue losing to the MC's, just my 2 cents.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11791
Idra's army looked tiny considering the supply lead he had. I don't know if he made too many drones or just had a ton of roaches in production/rallied, but he wasn't fighting with an overwhelming force at all in any of those engagements.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11792
god these idra fanboy posts hurt my brain.


lol im not in idra-fanboy... did you even read my post?
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11793
Idra really needs to start using Infestor's, his control with them sucks, but it's better than a-moving with a bunch of badly micro'd Roaches against about as hard a counter as you'll find.

Frugalicious
Profile Joined June 2010
United States121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 20:41:50
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11794
deleted post (accidental double post)
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11795
On June 20 2011 05:39 Garnet wrote:
only 40 minutes and Idra - MC already over?

Series was like 30 mins in total
+ Show Spoiler +
MC won 2-0
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11796
On June 20 2011 05:39 mols0n wrote:
did moon beat white ra?

yes, i got to see those vods.
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11797
On June 20 2011 05:39 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
Whitera or moon?

+ Show Spoiler +
Moon won, I tuned in at the last second and was a crazy finish I wanna watch the whole series now
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11798
On June 20 2011 05:39 azr wrote:
Guys, IdrA had a group of something below the ramp at his 3rd, prbably the group of roaches he sent to deal with the DT. That would explain why he managed to lose with such a superior supply count.

yea I was noticing this as well, but the obs was on the battle so it could have just been overlords or some weird shit... anyway Idras army looked way too small for his supply
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11799
On June 20 2011 05:36 minhchi1211 wrote:
I want Idra win so bad we were able to wipe out only Moon


Wipe out Moon? Moon advanced, he beat White Ra 2-0 in pretty convincing fashion. Totally outplayed.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#11800
On June 20 2011 05:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:36 Ruyguy wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:35 Theoren wrote:
Idra made way to many drones and didn't have much of an army advantage. When you consider MC has blink and +2 weapons it's no surprise he steamrolled Idra's pure Roach army. Idra's ZvP is pretty bad and he seems to have a mental block not only against MC but in the match up in general.

but honestly I still hate the fact that a 170 supply army cannot kill a 110 protoss army.....kinda bullshit despite still being pure roach.

It was like a 70 supply army vs a 60 supply army actually, drones and queens and 10 supply at MCs third

And MC's army cost a lot more to make, so if you compare army value, it's even more, well, even.
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