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On June 18 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 22:00 whiteLotus wrote:On June 18 2011 21:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 18 2011 21:56 haxard wrote:On June 18 2011 21:55 Macabre wrote:On June 18 2011 21:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit. ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon. 15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this. wtf. no its not. 15hatch can hold anything if played right. In ZvT maybe, I wouldn't say that in PvZ at all. forge first against hatch first in pvz is a big joke sure if youre a bad player. but a little micro shuts down any cannon rush. sure, good example is how idra shut down MC's cannon rush at MLG, got blocked by 3 pylons -> gg. You mean the one where the cannons were finished before the hatch was and he could have just canceled and taken another base whilst the Protoss just dropped 450 Minerals to delay your natural...whilst he delays Warpgates/Gas
Good luck taking another base...
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United Kingdom38156 Posts
Those storms from Socke did a disgusting amount of damage xD
BratOK is pretty fucked now.
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On June 18 2011 22:01 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 21:59 Maliris wrote:On June 18 2011 21:56 ZAiNs wrote:On June 18 2011 21:53 Sniffy wrote:On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit. ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon. 15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this. Are you joking? Dont talk about things you know nothing about He's right. You can Hatch first on very few maps and only if you follow the probe with a drone and are very confident in your crisis management, and hope your opponent doesn't play perfectly. PLEASE don't talk... 15 hatch is the best possible opener vs 4gate lol. Would you rather 14gas 14pool and then have your expansion finish exactly when the protoss is warping in at your front door..? only reason ret lost is he ran off creep and lost a lot of roach, the forcefields were the final nail in the coffin I'm not talking about what is the best vs. 4gate, I'm just saying that Hatch first in general is not safe -- which is a fact.
if you play "safe" with zerg, you lose.
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Bloody hell, Brat_OK going the 'bit of everything' composition and then just stands in storms and gets rolled.
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holy shit what an awesome attack by socke!!
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On June 18 2011 22:01 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 22:00 dubRa wrote:On June 18 2011 21:58 Olinim wrote:On June 18 2011 21:57 dubRa wrote:On June 18 2011 21:56 Daimai wrote:On June 18 2011 21:48 SC2Phoenix wrote:On June 18 2011 21:47 Fubi wrote:
How do you die to 4gate in a non-PvP at this level of play... because its a four gate... Exactly, then why did he die? Because nani is the king of 4gate That title belongs to MC, sorry bud. Then I demand a clash of the kings in the playoffs so this can be settled. Naniwa already lost to MC at MLG, it has been settled 
That was the fight over the title suicide toss
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On June 18 2011 22:03 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 22:02 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 22:01 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 21:59 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 21:57 youngminii wrote:Game 3 StartNightend V DimagaCurrent score: 1-1 Map: Shakuras Plateau  Nightend at 7 o'clock  Dimaga at 2 o'clock 3:00Nightend going for a Forge fast expand while Dimaga goes Pool/gas first. 6:30Dimaga starts a Lair while Nightend starts a Stargate. 7:30Dimaga starts a third and a Roach Warren. Nightend making a Void Ray and is still on a single Gateway with all 4 Gas. 9:00Dimaga has no anti air except some Queens. Nightend harassing with a Void Ray and 3 Phoenixes.
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Nightend sends 3 Zealots to Dimaga's 3rd which shuts down mining. Mismicro's his air units and loses his only Void Ray and a Phoenix. Dimaga starts a Hydralisk Den while Nightend starts a Robotics Facility. Dimaga starts a 4th.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
dimaga taking a lot of damage so far, great creep spread though
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1-1 On to game 3! Socke vs BratOK
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Socke and bratok are so good today. didn't expect that of both of them. sick play!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Ouch, terrible air work by Nightend, does nothing against 3 queens.
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On June 18 2011 22:05 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 22:03 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 22:02 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 22:01 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 21:59 youngminii wrote:On June 18 2011 21:57 youngminii wrote:Game 3 StartNightend V DimagaCurrent score: 1-1 Map: Shakuras Plateau Nightend at 7 o'clock Dimaga at 2 o'clock 3:00Nightend going for a Forge fast expand while Dimaga goes Pool/gas first. 6:30Dimaga starts a Lair while Nightend starts a Stargate. 7:30Dimaga starts a third and a Roach Warren. Nightend making a Void Ray and is still on a single Gateway with all 4 Gas. 9:00Dimaga has no anti air except some Queens. Nightend harassing with a Void Ray and 3 Phoenixes. 10:30Nightend sends 3 Zealots to Dimaga's 3rd which shuts down mining. Mismicro's his air units and loses his only Void Ray and a Phoenix. Dimaga starts a Hydralisk Den while Nightend starts a Robotics Facility. Dimaga starts a 4th.
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A Twilight Council and resumed Void Ray production for Nightend. 3 Queens with a ton of transfuses take out a Void Ray and the Phoenixes fly back. Baneling next and +2 Melee for Dimaga, and Pathogen Glands.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Nightend adding on blink, needs a 3rd though
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On June 18 2011 22:04 alepov wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 22:01 ZAiNs wrote:On June 18 2011 21:59 Maliris wrote:On June 18 2011 21:56 ZAiNs wrote:On June 18 2011 21:53 Sniffy wrote:On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit. ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon. 15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this. Are you joking? Dont talk about things you know nothing about He's right. You can Hatch first on very few maps and only if you follow the probe with a drone and are very confident in your crisis management, and hope your opponent doesn't play perfectly. PLEASE don't talk... 15 hatch is the best possible opener vs 4gate lol. Would you rather 14gas 14pool and then have your expansion finish exactly when the protoss is warping in at your front door..? only reason ret lost is he ran off creep and lost a lot of roach, the forcefields were the final nail in the coffin I'm not talking about what is the best vs. 4gate, I'm just saying that Hatch first in general is not safe -- which is a fact. if you play "safe" with zerg, you lose.
Gotta love that defeatist attitude.
Don't 15 hatch, instant lose against protoss.
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On June 18 2011 22:05 Finrod1 wrote:
Socke and bratok are so good today. didn't expect that of both of them. sick play!
Ye socke played that game out perfectly. Bratok was a bit strange. Was kinda an all in but he missed the window so socke had a third up and both temp/colossi tech. Odd game.
On June 18 2011 22:07 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 22:04 alepov wrote:On June 18 2011 22:01 ZAiNs wrote:On June 18 2011 21:59 Maliris wrote:On June 18 2011 21:56 ZAiNs wrote:On June 18 2011 21:53 Sniffy wrote:On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit. ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon. 15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this. Are you joking? Dont talk about things you know nothing about He's right. You can Hatch first on very few maps and only if you follow the probe with a drone and are very confident in your crisis management, and hope your opponent doesn't play perfectly. PLEASE don't talk... 15 hatch is the best possible opener vs 4gate lol. Would you rather 14gas 14pool and then have your expansion finish exactly when the protoss is warping in at your front door..? only reason ret lost is he ran off creep and lost a lot of roach, the forcefields were the final nail in the coffin I'm not talking about what is the best vs. 4gate, I'm just saying that Hatch first in general is not safe -- which is a fact. if you play "safe" with zerg, you lose. Gotta love that defeatist attitude. Don't 15 hatch, instant lose against protoss.
He didn't lost because of 15 hatch. It's not instant lose against protoss. If they cannon you sure it's super risky and can lose you the game. There were no cannons.
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
nightend busting out of his base
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EPT
