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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#2701
On June 18 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
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On June 18 2011 22:00 whiteLotus wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:56 haxard wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:55 Macabre wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit.

ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon.

15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this.

wtf. no its not. 15hatch can hold anything if played right.



In ZvT maybe, I wouldn't say that in PvZ at all.


forge first against hatch first in pvz is a big joke

sure if youre a bad player. but a little micro shuts down any cannon rush.


sure, good example is how idra shut down MC's cannon rush at MLG, got blocked by 3 pylons -> gg.

You mean the one where the cannons were finished before the hatch was and he could have just canceled and taken another base whilst the Protoss just dropped 450 Minerals to delay your natural...whilst he delays Warpgates/Gas

Good luck taking another base...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 13:04:36
June 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#2702
Those storms from Socke did a disgusting amount of damage xD

BratOK is pretty fucked now.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
June 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#2703
On June 18 2011 22:01 ZAiNs wrote:
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On June 18 2011 21:59 Maliris wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:56 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:53 Sniffy wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit.

ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon.

15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this.


Are you joking? Dont talk about things you know nothing about

He's right. You can Hatch first on very few maps and only if you follow the probe with a drone and are very confident in your crisis management, and hope your opponent doesn't play perfectly.

PLEASE don't talk... 15 hatch is the best possible opener vs 4gate lol. Would you rather 14gas 14pool and then have your expansion finish exactly when the protoss is warping in at your front door..?

only reason ret lost is he ran off creep and lost a lot of roach, the forcefields were the final nail in the coffin

I'm not talking about what is the best vs. 4gate, I'm just saying that Hatch first in general is not safe -- which is a fact.

if you play "safe" with zerg, you lose.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
June 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#2704
Bloody hell, Brat_OK going the 'bit of everything' composition and then just stands in storms and gets rolled.
Love is more fun than hate.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
June 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#2705
holy shit what an awesome attack by socke!!
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
June 18 2011 13:04 GMT
#2706
On June 18 2011 22:01 Olinim wrote:
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On June 18 2011 22:00 dubRa wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:58 Olinim wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:57 dubRa wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:56 Daimai wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:48 SC2Phoenix wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:47 Fubi wrote:
How do you die to 4gate in a non-PvP at this level of play...
because its a four gate...

Exactly, then why did he die?

Because nani is the king of 4gate

That title belongs to MC, sorry bud.

Then I demand a clash of the kings in the playoffs so this can be settled.

Naniwa already lost to MC at MLG, it has been settled

That was the fight over the title suicide toss
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 13:05 GMT
#2707
On June 18 2011 22:03 youngminii wrote:
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On June 18 2011 22:02 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:01 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:59 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:57 youngminii wrote:
Game 3 Start
Nightend V Dimaga
Current score: 1-1
Map: Shakuras Plateau
Nightend at 7 o'clock
Dimaga at 2 o'clock

3:00
Nightend going for a Forge fast expand while Dimaga goes Pool/gas first.

6:30
Dimaga starts a Lair while Nightend starts a Stargate.

7:30
Dimaga starts a third and a Roach Warren. Nightend making a Void Ray and is still on a single Gateway with all 4 Gas.

9:00
Dimaga has no anti air except some Queens. Nightend harassing with a Void Ray and 3 Phoenixes.

10:30
Nightend sends 3 Zealots to Dimaga's 3rd which shuts down mining. Mismicro's his air units and loses his only Void Ray and a Phoenix. Dimaga starts a Hydralisk Den while Nightend starts a Robotics Facility. Dimaga starts a 4th.
lalala
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 13:05 GMT
#2708
great phoenix play
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 13:05 GMT
#2709
Nice storms haha
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 13:05 GMT
#2710
dimaga taking a lot of damage so far, great creep spread though
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
June 18 2011 13:05 GMT
#2711
1-1 On to game 3! Socke vs BratOK
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
June 18 2011 13:05 GMT
#2712
Socke and bratok are so good today. didn't expect that of both of them. sick play!
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 13:06 GMT
#2713
robo bay on the way
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
June 18 2011 13:06 GMT
#2714
Ouch, terrible air work by Nightend, does nothing against 3 queens.
Love is more fun than hate.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 13:06 GMT
#2715
On June 18 2011 22:05 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:03 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:02 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:01 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:59 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:57 youngminii wrote:
Game 3 Start
Nightend V Dimaga
Current score: 1-1
Map: Shakuras Plateau
Nightend at 7 o'clock
Dimaga at 2 o'clock

3:00
Nightend going for a Forge fast expand while Dimaga goes Pool/gas first.

6:30
Dimaga starts a Lair while Nightend starts a Stargate.

7:30
Dimaga starts a third and a Roach Warren. Nightend making a Void Ray and is still on a single Gateway with all 4 Gas.

9:00
Dimaga has no anti air except some Queens. Nightend harassing with a Void Ray and 3 Phoenixes.

10:30
Nightend sends 3 Zealots to Dimaga's 3rd which shuts down mining. Mismicro's his air units and loses his only Void Ray and a Phoenix. Dimaga starts a Hydralisk Den while Nightend starts a Robotics Facility. Dimaga starts a 4th.

12:30
A Twilight Council and resumed Void Ray production for Nightend. 3 Queens with a ton of transfuses take out a Void Ray and the Phoenixes fly back. Baneling next and +2 Melee for Dimaga, and Pathogen Glands.
lalala
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 13:06 GMT
#2716
infestors on the way
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 13:06 GMT
#2717
Nightend adding on blink, needs a 3rd though
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
June 18 2011 13:07 GMT
#2718
On June 18 2011 22:04 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:01 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:59 Maliris wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:56 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:53 Sniffy wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit.

ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon.

15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this.


Are you joking? Dont talk about things you know nothing about

He's right. You can Hatch first on very few maps and only if you follow the probe with a drone and are very confident in your crisis management, and hope your opponent doesn't play perfectly.

PLEASE don't talk... 15 hatch is the best possible opener vs 4gate lol. Would you rather 14gas 14pool and then have your expansion finish exactly when the protoss is warping in at your front door..?

only reason ret lost is he ran off creep and lost a lot of roach, the forcefields were the final nail in the coffin

I'm not talking about what is the best vs. 4gate, I'm just saying that Hatch first in general is not safe -- which is a fact.

if you play "safe" with zerg, you lose.


Gotta love that defeatist attitude.

Don't 15 hatch, instant lose against protoss.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 13:08:29
June 18 2011 13:07 GMT
#2719
On June 18 2011 22:05 Finrod1 wrote:
Socke and bratok are so good today. didn't expect that of both of them. sick play!


Ye socke played that game out perfectly. Bratok was a bit strange. Was kinda an all in but he missed the window so socke had a third up and both temp/colossi tech. Odd game.

On June 18 2011 22:07 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:04 alepov wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:01 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:59 Maliris wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:56 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:53 Sniffy wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:52 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 18 2011 21:48 crappen wrote:
bleh, reminds me of sc2 6months ago. Was hoping ret would go 14p14gas instead of this greedy shit.

ret's build was fine. 15hatch isnt greedy. he just needed faster spine crawlers, and to not suicide for the pylon.

15hatch is unviable, it is absurdly greedy. Even the second greediest Zerg in the world (Morrow) accepts this.


Are you joking? Dont talk about things you know nothing about

He's right. You can Hatch first on very few maps and only if you follow the probe with a drone and are very confident in your crisis management, and hope your opponent doesn't play perfectly.

PLEASE don't talk... 15 hatch is the best possible opener vs 4gate lol. Would you rather 14gas 14pool and then have your expansion finish exactly when the protoss is warping in at your front door..?

only reason ret lost is he ran off creep and lost a lot of roach, the forcefields were the final nail in the coffin

I'm not talking about what is the best vs. 4gate, I'm just saying that Hatch first in general is not safe -- which is a fact.

if you play "safe" with zerg, you lose.


Gotta love that defeatist attitude.

Don't 15 hatch, instant lose against protoss.


He didn't lost because of 15 hatch. It's not instant lose against protoss. If they cannon you sure it's super risky and can lose you the game. There were no cannons.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 13:07 GMT
#2720
nightend busting out of his base
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
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