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On June 13 2011 14:05 Traven wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:03 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. Imagine a baseball game. An opponent pitcher goes out and tries to hit one of your players with the ball intentionally. What is expected? The next time you are up to pitch, you will most likely try to hit one of the opposing teams batters. Boxer cheese, Idra didn't GG. Emperor or not, Idra can get ticked if he wants. Wait what? Cheese=hitting a batter with a pitch? Are you serious? Is that seriously the best analogy you have? Not only is it not even close to applicable, but it makes no sense. A rush is part of the game. Idra didnt defend. If you want to use baseball analogy, it would be a fastball Idra couldnt catch up to. Or a curve when he thought he was getting a change up. Boxer struck Idra out, and Idra has a right to be pissed. But he should be honored just to share the game with Boxer. You dont spit on the greatest person ever to play a sport. You clearly missed the analogy. Cheesing is frowned upon mostly by the SC community last time I recall, so is intentionally hitting a batter with a pitch. Idra just returned the hit with another hit.
Except what Boxer did was not cheesing. Cheesing is something which is designed to catch your opponent by surprise and fails hard if it's scouted. Proxy 2 rax pressure when done this way is not cheese, it was scouted both games, and was still effective both games, the first game it punished Idra for being greedy, the 2nd game it forced Idra to pool first and then transitioned into a long macro game.
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On June 13 2011 14:27 sc2guy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. u still dont know the half of it ^^ if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho "ratboy"? óo are you deezer? omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed. seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole? Who cheated multiple times?
TT1 had a history of cheating in BW, but has since turned over a new leaf and had a good competitive career in that game and SC2.
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So Idra lost and the LR thread went to shit oO.
Anyone got the LR Quote for those games plz? Or did no do it?
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On June 13 2011 14:24 Disquiet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:23 twndomn wrote:On June 13 2011 14:20 sc14s wrote:On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.
0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio
he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is. that's actually incorrect since hes 2-4 MC. I will admit i think sen is a better player and will show this once he gets out of school. Sen might have the same problem Boxer once had, military draft. Before the match, Idra told Incontrol and just about everyone else that his most confident match-up is ZvT; as it turns out, Boxer just exposes his false confidence. A few more losses and I wouldn't be surprised if terran becomes the evil imba race of choice again for idra and his minions
Idra fanboys V Idra haters is like watching the Israeli & Palistinian conflict. pretty sure both sides need to just drop it
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IdrA wins and nobody says anything in LR threads
Idra loses and gets 20 pages of LOLOLOLOL IDRA SO BAD
Hint : it's not the fans ruining the threads.
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On June 13 2011 14:23 twndomn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:20 sc14s wrote:On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.
0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio
he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is. that's actually incorrect since hes 2-4 MC. I will admit i think sen is a better player and will show this once he gets out of school. Sen might have the same problem Boxer once had, military draft. Before the match, Idra told Incontrol and just about everyone else that his most confident match-up is ZvT; as it turns out, Boxer just exposes his false confidence.
Sen is from Taiwan, and I am pretty sure they do not have a mandatory 2 year draft like S. Korea does. However, he is still in college (graduates this year?), which makes him all the more awesome that he is still so good at this game.
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On June 13 2011 14:25 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:19 TooN wrote:On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.
0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio
he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is. Facts Didn't a shitload of other foreigners lose to those guys? But yeah, Thorzain and Sen rule. Sen is probably the best non-Korean Zerg out there right now.
Exactly. That's the point. Idra loses to them like " other foreigners" u pointed out.
IdrA wins and nobody says anything in LR threads
Idra loses and gets 20 pages of LOLOLOLOL IDRA SO BAD
Hint : it's not the fans ruining the threads.
No it's IdrA. It's his overloving him self.
IdrA doesn't love anything as much as he loves himself. ^^
People are tired of him complaining, and leaving games in that fasion.
I think if IdrA would spent the time when he complains on practice, he would be for sure the best foreigner but now... ahm.
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On June 13 2011 14:29 Mailing wrote:
IdrA wins and nobody says anything in LR threads
Idra loses and gets 20 pages of LOLOLOLOL IDRA SO BAD
Hint : it's not the fans ruining the threads.
and yet his anti fans are still better than his fans.
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Hey I missed tonight's games, I'm glad that Boxer won even though I did liquibet Idra. I tend to overestimate his consistency but anyway hopefully Boxer will win NASL season 1.
Also I can't believe a mod had to lock the LR thread... Way to go guys. Way to represent teh foreign community...
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On June 13 2011 14:24 Karthane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.
0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio
he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is. Wow, you are good at compiling a list of random losses a player has had. Though it still means nothing.
They are not random losses, they are pretty damn important
0-2 MMA - MLG Columbus
0-2 Sen - NASL
0-2 BoxeR - NASL
2-4 MC - MLG Columbus
0-2 Zenio - NASL
These are not ladders, there're more than just prize money on the line, especially if you say your confident match-up is ZvT.
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On June 13 2011 14:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:29 Mailing wrote:
IdrA wins and nobody says anything in LR threads
Idra loses and gets 20 pages of LOLOLOLOL IDRA SO BAD
Hint : it's not the fans ruining the threads. and yet his anti fans are still better than his fans.
And yet that's the attitude that makes you worse than idra fans. This odd arrogance that permeates you.
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On June 13 2011 14:25 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:19 TooN wrote:On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.
0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio
he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is. Facts Didn't a shitload of other foreigners lose to those guys? But yeah, Thorzain and Sen rule. Sen is probably the best non-Korean Zerg out there right now.
Some love for Nerchio! I genuinely believe that he's the best zerg atm, once he actually starts playing in LANs, you will see :d!
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It's not a point of note that Idra lost. I mean, it's SLAYERS_FUCKING_`BOXER`!!!!!!!!
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Ugh, we even have veterans slugging it out, just right after the thread opened again. This isn't a place to discuss it, Idra fan, BoxeR fan, no fan, et cetera. It's embarrassing to read this right now.
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On June 13 2011 14:05 shockaslim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:02 obesecat wrote:
Daigo won today, Boxer won today, and the Mavericks won as well. Makes it even better to see garbage like Bosh, Idra, and Wolfkrone cry after they got put in their places Daigo and Boxer are the real faces of Asia. To think Daigo was winning tournaments in 3-4 different fighting games at the same time is unthinkable.
I thought Daigo was a SF specialist and wasn't considered top tier in other fighting games? Has he been tearing it up in MvC lately?
OT but I think this is better than the current dross of a discussion going on in LR.
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On June 13 2011 14:29 Mailing wrote:
IdrA wins and nobody says anything in LR threads
Idra loses and gets 20 pages of LOLOLOLOL IDRA SO BAD
Hint : it's not the fans ruining the threads.
Lmfao... It is the fans and the haters making a big deal out of it.
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Well, I'm curious what is going to happen here if anything. I have a feeling that Korea's respect for IdrA is going to drop a lot and a lot of them are going to try to embarrass him in games. People always make SO many excuses for IdrA --- oh people don't always do it in basketball, oh maybe he just didn't do it because he didn't think it's a good game --- when IdrA is pretty much the ONLY person who doesn't GG after games in tournaments. I don't think I've actually ever seen any other high level people not GG even if they BM a little bit before it. People are trying to act like this is some common thing and people are targeting IdrA for it specifically, but it's really just him being a child.
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Damn, I missed those games between Idra and Boxer, just read the live report of the games. All hail the EMPEROR !!!.
Don't know what going on on with Idra these days, hope he can shape up his mental skill in the future.
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On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.
0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio
he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.
LOL Nothing like selective stats, right?
I agree that Thorzain is awesome, for the record. But really, you picking some of IdrA's losses and ignoring all his wins is rather ridiculous.
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Why TT1 is so pissed about IdrA? I mean he knows IdrA for so long already.
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