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On June 13 2011 14:03 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:58 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. Imagine a baseball game. An opponent pitcher goes out and tries to hit one of your players with the ball intentionally. What is expected? The next time you are up to pitch, you will most likely try to hit one of the opposing teams batters. Boxer cheese, Idra didn't GG. Emperor or not, Idra can get ticked if he wants. Wait what? Cheese=hitting a batter with a pitch? Are you serious? Is that seriously the best analogy you have? Not only is it not even close to applicable, but it makes no sense. A rush is part of the game. Idra didnt defend. If you want to use baseball analogy, it would be a fastball Idra couldnt catch up to. Or a curve when he thought he was getting a change up. Boxer struck Idra out, and Idra has a right to be pissed. But he should be honored just to share the game with Boxer. You dont spit on the greatest person ever to play a sport.
You clearly missed the analogy. Cheesing is frowned upon mostly by the SC community last time I recall, so is intentionally hitting a batter with a pitch. Idra just returned the hit with another hit.
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On June 13 2011 14:02 obesecat wrote:
Daigo won today, Boxer won today, and the Mavericks won as well. Makes it even better to see garbage like Bosh, Idra, and Wolfkrone cry after they got put in their places
Daigo and Boxer are the real faces of Asia. To think Daigo was winning tournaments in 3-4 different fighting games at the same time is unthinkable.
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On June 13 2011 14:02 MajorityofOne wrote:
Idra is a jerk for not gging to the Emperor. Surprise! Idra! Being a jerk after he loses! It's like this is still news to people.
TT1 and an assortment of others are being jerks in this thread because hey, they love talking shit about Idra. Surprise! TT1 and a bunch of LR people are BM! About Idra, of all people! HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS COMING?!
I for one had no idea that TT1 thought IdrA was a spineless rat boy and wanted to shit in his mouth.
I'm genuinely surprised! Was this common knowledge? Why wasn't this in the featured news section? LOL.
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TT1 confirmed for anal fuck and wanting to shit in idras mouth
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 13 2011 14:04 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:01 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. that metaphor is so wrong... not writing gg is the same as simply not shaking the opponents hand after a match. writing bm stuff in chat would be spitting on someone. Not in starcraft. In korean starcraft the gg is a sign of respect and is expected at the end of the game. Not doing it is far worse than not shaking someones hand. It is a personal insult.
I wouldn't say it'd be spitting in their face, but not as light as only not shaking someone's hand.
Probably more equivalent to REFUSING to shake someone's hand
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You have to remember he doesn't just represent himself, he represents Team EG and to a lesser extent foreign players.
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On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. u still dont know the half of it ^^ if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho "ratboy"? óo are you deezer?
omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed.
seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole?
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On June 13 2011 14:03 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:54 hamchan wrote:
TT1 trolling you all is hilarious.
Also Idra not GGing is just bad man. Respect the goddamn Emperor. im not trolling yo, as pathetic as it might seem because it has nothing to do with me i really am mad.. when he doesnt gg to boxer that tells me he thinks hes better than him and i take offence to that shit cus im an anal fuck
Quick question; exactly how drunk would you say you are right now? Cause your posts are really starting to lose their coherence.
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On June 13 2011 14:04 IzieBoy wrote:
in game 2, maybe if he transferred away drones fast with drops and sacrificed those two bases he would still come out ahead if he had switched to mass ultras instead... his creep spread was a little slow too for some reason
Yeah, IdrA's creep spread was pretty bad, by IdrA's standards ... seemed off his game, tbh.
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On June 13 2011 14:04 IzieBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. lol i'm gold and i beat a GM using 2-rax transition into all marines. i was thinking maybe the zerg could place his best tech structures at cross positions.. making his main just an expansion base in game 2, maybe if he transferred away drones fast with drops and sacrificed those two bases he would still come out ahead if he had switched to mass ultras instead... his creep spread was a little slow too for some reason i felt the map in game 2 was pretty balanced
I think he should've broken his own rocks like you would do in Shak, but even so the map and those positions is tough for zerg.
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On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. u still dont know the half of it ^^ if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho "ratboy"? óo are you deezer? omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed. seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole?
oh goooooooooood im so tempted ^_^, one day tho
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On June 13 2011 14:08 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. u still dont know the half of it ^^ if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho "ratboy"? óo are you deezer? omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed. seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole? oh goooooooooood im so tempted ^_^, one day tho
lmao TT1 you are so drunk.
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On June 13 2011 14:05 Traven wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:03 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. Imagine a baseball game. An opponent pitcher goes out and tries to hit one of your players with the ball intentionally. What is expected? The next time you are up to pitch, you will most likely try to hit one of the opposing teams batters. Boxer cheese, Idra didn't GG. Emperor or not, Idra can get ticked if he wants. Wait what? Cheese=hitting a batter with a pitch? Are you serious? Is that seriously the best analogy you have? Not only is it not even close to applicable, but it makes no sense. A rush is part of the game. Idra didnt defend. If you want to use baseball analogy, it would be a fastball Idra couldnt catch up to. Or a curve when he thought he was getting a change up. Boxer struck Idra out, and Idra has a right to be pissed. But he should be honored just to share the game with Boxer. You dont spit on the greatest person ever to play a sport. You clearly missed the analogy. Cheesing is frowned upon mostly by the SC community last time I recall, so is intentionally hitting a batter with a pitch. Idra just returned the hit with another hit.
Only cheese is built into the game. Hitting a batter goes outside of that. It would be like a batter getting pissed at a curve ball and charging the mound because he never learned to hit one.
Like it or not, cheese is part of starcraft. If you cant handle that, you simply dont belong.
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On June 13 2011 14:08 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:08 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. u still dont know the half of it ^^ if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho "ratboy"? óo are you deezer? omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed. seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole? oh goooooooooood im so tempted ^_^, one day tho lmao TT1 you are so drunk.
i am just a bit but my reaction is truly genuine
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On June 13 2011 14:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:04 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 14:01 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. that metaphor is so wrong... not writing gg is the same as simply not shaking the opponents hand after a match. writing bm stuff in chat would be spitting on someone. Not in starcraft. In korean starcraft the gg is a sign of respect and is expected at the end of the game. Not doing it is far worse than not shaking someones hand. It is a personal insult. I wouldn't say it'd be spitting in their face, but not as light as only not shaking someone's hand. Probably more equivalent to REFUSING to shake someone's hand
nope. this is completely false. It is like heading to the locker room before anyone even can come up to you to shake your hand. It happens a LOT in pro sports. If someone has a bad game, (lebron in nba finals) he walks STRAIGHT to the locker room after the game while some players stay and shake hands. Is lebron being rude and bad mannered to the mavs in that case?? no, hes just frustrated and wants to get away. same with Idra.....
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On June 13 2011 14:09 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:05 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 14:03 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 Traven wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. Imagine a baseball game. An opponent pitcher goes out and tries to hit one of your players with the ball intentionally. What is expected? The next time you are up to pitch, you will most likely try to hit one of the opposing teams batters. Boxer cheese, Idra didn't GG. Emperor or not, Idra can get ticked if he wants. Wait what? Cheese=hitting a batter with a pitch? Are you serious? Is that seriously the best analogy you have? Not only is it not even close to applicable, but it makes no sense. A rush is part of the game. Idra didnt defend. If you want to use baseball analogy, it would be a fastball Idra couldnt catch up to. Or a curve when he thought he was getting a change up. Boxer struck Idra out, and Idra has a right to be pissed. But he should be honored just to share the game with Boxer. You dont spit on the greatest person ever to play a sport. You clearly missed the analogy. Cheesing is frowned upon mostly by the SC community last time I recall, so is intentionally hitting a batter with a pitch. Idra just returned the hit with another hit. Only cheese is built into the game. Hitting a batter goes outside of that. It would be like a batter getting pissed at a curve ball and charging the mound because he never learned to hit one. Like it or not, cheese is part of starcraft. If you cant handle that, you simply dont belong.
If we're going to stick to the baseball analogy...cheese would be like refusing to pitch to someone 
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TT1...is there anyone else's mouth you would like to shit in? Just curious. I haven't seen anyone do it since that one episode of Oz when Beecher did it to someone.
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On June 13 2011 14:08 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title. u still dont know the half of it ^^ if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho "ratboy"? óo are you deezer? omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed. seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole? oh goooooooooood im so tempted ^_^, one day tho
What does this even mean? lol
BTW I called that he was drunk think like...after his second post in this thread. *self high five*
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On June 13 2011 14:09 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 14:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:On June 13 2011 14:04 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 14:01 NinMarth wrote:On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".
Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.
Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose. Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse. that metaphor is so wrong... not writing gg is the same as simply not shaking the opponents hand after a match. writing bm stuff in chat would be spitting on someone. Not in starcraft. In korean starcraft the gg is a sign of respect and is expected at the end of the game. Not doing it is far worse than not shaking someones hand. It is a personal insult. I wouldn't say it'd be spitting in their face, but not as light as only not shaking someone's hand. Probably more equivalent to REFUSING to shake someone's hand nope. this is completely false. It is like heading to the locker room before anyone even can come up to you to shake your hand. It happens a LOT in pro sports. If someone has a bad game, (lebron in nba finals) he walks STRAIGHT to the locker room after the game while some players stay and shake hands. Is lebron being rude and bad mannered to the mavs in that case?? no, hes just frustrated and wants to get away. same with Idra..... this analogy fits perfectly
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On June 13 2011 13:57 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 13:52 edwahn wrote:
I'm no longer even sure how one becomes a fanboy of a guy like IdrA. Are these the kind of people who watch day time soap opera and are totally gripped by its compelling drama?
It's fine to defend his play-style and skills as he is obviously a skilled player, but what justifies defending his bad manner, claiming manner is not compulsary? Is it not the proper behaviour for sportsmen to shake the hands of their competitor after the match, regardless of the results?
The "gg" is the equivalent of the handshake, and while it may not be compulsary, it's understandable that it becomes the point of discussion if a player - losing or otherwise - refuses it. Making patronising comments about other people making a big deal about this only serves to show your true colour as a rabid Idra fanboy. So you insult the people that you think are so inflammatory and think you have some kind of ethical or moral high ground here?
No, I'm ticked off and making inflammatory comments myself, so my position here isn't an ethical or moral high ground.
I'm stating a fact that professional mannerism in sports is expected and applauded, and that arguing otherwise is false. I'd love to hear your rebuttal on this, rather than more patronising comments about my lack of moral ground.
(and to clarify I am making the assumption that mocking people who expect good manners in professional players is the same as arguing against the need for good manners to begin with)
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