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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 13 2011 05:10 GMT
#1761
On June 13 2011 14:09 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 13 2011 14:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
On June 13 2011 14:01 NinMarth wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:53 FighterHayabusa wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:44 Nakas wrote:
Both of those Boxer vs Idra games were pretty piss poor, neither I would consider even close to a "good game".

Game 1 was just a silly 2-rax that anyone at diamond level or above can easily do, and will take games off even grandmaster players.

Game 2 was over the moment they spawned in vertical positions. A terran 2-base push through that short and narrow path is pretty much unbeatable. It's just like those pathways on the top and bottom of the old Shakuras map (the ones that were removed because they were imbalanced), but even shorter and quicker to push though. If NASL uses this map again next season, they really should to remove vertical spawns from it, or remove the passage like they did with Shakuras.

Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about.

This just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. In Korean starcraft, a gg is the equivalent of a handshake. To not gg after a match is the same as spitting on someone as they extend their hand to shake yours or screaming obscenities at them after you lose.

Idra was a part of the Korean scene for years. He knows the culture. He has no excuse.

that metaphor is so wrong... not writing gg is the same as simply not shaking the opponents hand after a match. writing bm stuff in chat would be spitting on someone.

Not in starcraft. In korean starcraft the gg is a sign of respect and is expected at the end of the game. Not doing it is far worse than not shaking someones hand. It is a personal insult.

I wouldn't say it'd be spitting in their face, but not as light as only not shaking someone's hand.

Probably more equivalent to REFUSING to shake someone's hand


nope. this is completely false. It is like heading to the locker room before anyone even can come up to you to shake your hand. It happens a LOT in pro sports. If someone has a bad game, (lebron in nba finals) he walks STRAIGHT to the locker room after the game while some players stay and shake hands. Is lebron being rude and bad mannered to the mavs in that case?? no, hes just frustrated and wants to get away. same with Idra.....



Yeah, honestly, the only real consistent time I saw the shaking of hands were in my little league games. Stop acting like every pro athlete is mannered. They get frustrated, my god
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 13 2011 05:11 GMT
#1762
Since I am unable to moderate this awful thread, I'm locking it for a bit.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 13 2011 05:16 GMT
#1763
Unlocked!
ModeratorGood content always wins.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
June 13 2011 05:18 GMT
#1764
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.
You know what I'm talking about
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
June 13 2011 05:19 GMT
#1765
Oh, great Motbob, you are wise beyond all. Teach us the way. But no seriously, thank you.
I thought the game for Cloud vs Sen game was really good, one of the more back and forth matches.
I post only when my brain works.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 13 2011 05:19 GMT
#1766
Glad to see the Emperor continuing to win!
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
June 13 2011 05:19 GMT
#1767
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.



Facts
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
June 13 2011 05:20 GMT
#1768
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.


You forgot 0-2 Thorzain.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 13 2011 05:20 GMT
#1769
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

that's actually incorrect since hes 2-4 MC. I will admit i think sen is a better player and will show this once he gets out of school.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
June 13 2011 05:21 GMT
#1770
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

I think he let off on his practice schedule since he came back to NA, and its starting to show. I don't actually know how much he is practicing so take this with a grain of salt but he said somewhere something like he actually likes it better when he doesn't prepare much. Seems like a bad attitude to have, the koreans practice harder, they win more, simple as that.

twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
June 13 2011 05:23 GMT
#1771
On June 13 2011 14:20 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

that's actually incorrect since hes 2-4 MC. I will admit i think sen is a better player and will show this once he gets out of school.


Sen might have the same problem Boxer once had, military draft.

Before the match, Idra told Incontrol and just about everyone else that his most confident match-up is ZvT; as it turns out, Boxer just exposes his false confidence.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 13 2011 05:23 GMT
#1772
Namedplayer, I can make a list 2x as long as that for any foreigner that plays koreans :3
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#1773
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

Idra isn't the best foreigner.

To prove this fact, I will point out that he has lost many matches to people who are not foreigners.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#1774
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

Oh boy, leaving out his wins against MC just to fuel your hate? Damn.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
June 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#1775
On June 13 2011 14:23 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:20 sc14s wrote:
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

that's actually incorrect since hes 2-4 MC. I will admit i think sen is a better player and will show this once he gets out of school.


Sen might have the same problem Boxer once had, military draft.

Before the match, Idra told Incontrol and just about everyone else that his most confident match-up is ZvT; as it turns out, Boxer just exposes his false confidence.

A few more losses and I wouldn't be surprised if terran becomes the evil imba race of choice again for idra and his minions
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#1776
On June 13 2011 14:21 Disquiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.

I think he let off on his practice schedule since he came back to NA, and its starting to show. I don't actually know how much he is practicing so take this with a grain of salt but he said somewhere something like he actually likes it better when he doesn't prepare much. Seems like a bad attitude to have, the koreans practice harder, they win more, simple as that.


On one of DJWheat's talk shows Idra said he practices ~4 hours a day which he said he was practicing less because he is ahead of people in mechanics, Thats pretty much when he lost me as a real fan, when he wants to be serious about playing again i perhaps might like the fella again but i feel hes not putting enough effort to warrant it atm.
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
June 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#1777
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.


Wow, you are good at compiling a list of random losses a player has had. Though it still means nothing.

Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 13 2011 05:25 GMT
#1778
On June 13 2011 14:19 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:18 namedplayer wrote:
seeems like Idra is overrated.

0-2 MMA
0-2 Sen
0-2 BoxeR
0-4 MC
0-2 Zenio

he is not the best foreigner anymore.. Thorzain is.



Facts



Didn't a shitload of other foreigners lose to those guys?

But yeah, Thorzain and Sen rule. Sen is probably the best non-Korean Zerg out there right now.
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
June 13 2011 05:27 GMT
#1779
On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title.


u still dont know the half of it ^^
if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho

"ratboy"? óo are you deezer?


omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed.
seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole?


Who cheated multiple times?
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Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 05:28:24
June 13 2011 05:27 GMT
#1780
On June 13 2011 14:27 sc2guy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 14:07 GwSC wrote:
On June 13 2011 14:03 NinMarth wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:58 TT1 wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:46 motbob wrote:
TT1 says Idra doesn't deserve anything he has, but of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. Idra practiced 12 hours a day for two years to get to the level of top foreigner in BW, and that effort also paid off by making him the top foreigner in SC2 when it came out. He still hasn't relinquished that title.


u still dont know the half of it ^^
if i was spineless ratboy idra u would have tho

"ratboy"? óo are you deezer?


omg. I think a major secret may have just been revealed.
seriously though, why is a person who is known to have cheated multiple times raging about a guy not GGing because it isn't respecting boxer and starcraft as a whole?


Who cheated multiple times?


TT1

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