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We will be moderating harshly in this thread. Think twice before you post. Things we are watching for: image macros, balance whining, "eagles", player bashing etc. We encourage civil and reasoned critique of our moderation - please post it in the website feedback forum.

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Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11301
Lady from qxc interview officially now a sc convert #MLG

lol
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11302
finally the mlg from day 1, two different games on two different streams

although the hq stream quality is worse now a bit
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11303
On June 06 2011 04:16 Veldril wrote:
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On June 06 2011 04:08 Jaksiel wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:08 how2TL wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:05 Redox wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:01 Zaurus wrote:
On June 06 2011 03:58 Moogley wrote:
If ThorZain had won their first series 2-0 and then gone on to win the series, I can garuntee you that nobody would be complaining. All I'd read is "THORZAIN SO GUD" and shit like that. Double standards yo.


thumbs up dude. the rule is fair if it applies to everybody. COME ON, accept it like a man. Nobody is saying TZ is not good, is just that he lost, stop whining.

Lol I so dont give a fuck that it was Thorzain who lost due to extended series.
The extended series is just inheritely unfair to whoever lost first because it punishes this palyer TWICE for loosing.
I wont go through the hassle to explain it to you, because it should actually be obvious.

But just one thing, there is noone else in the whole world, no sc2 competion, no other sports competion, that uses this extended series rule besides MLG. Because it is just pure nonsense.


If Thorzain won 2-1, then his head-to-head with MC would be 2-3, but Thorzain would advance. It punishes MC for winning first (exactly the opposite of what you said).

That is the rationale for extended series.

At least argue against the right thing.


MC already gets rewarded for winning first by getting seeded more highly into the championship bracket.


That's a reward for performing better in the pool but not exactly a reward for performing better than the particular member that he won before.

Extended series is basically use to make the double elimination fairer. Think about this, if there is a player who never lose a series until the finals. Then he loses to someone who he have beaten before ans loses the title. That player would be playing in a single elimination (since he can lose only once) while his opponent(s) play in a double elimination system (have to chance for the title). The main aim of the extended series should be to prevent this scenario.


The championship is a different thing entirely, because someone coming up from the loser's bracket should be at a disadvantage against someone who got through the winner's bracket. I (and others) am arguing against having a player start from an advantage when they're both already in the loser's bracket.
Zero fighting.
UsainBolt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada12 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11304
QUEBEC FIGHTING LETS GO SLUUUUUUUSHHHHH
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11305
I'm honestly frustrated because what can be done rather than complaining to see a more equitable format in the future? Whether its a good or bad format I'm not here to argue. But it clearly favors spectators and watching players slave away than actually getting the best SC2 in my opinion. Can you imagine a set up like that in the world cup without an uproar from both the fans and players?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11306
Where is Zealot-Waldo??!

lolol terrible hiding
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11307
On June 06 2011 04:17 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 06 2011 04:17 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:16 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:15 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:13 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:12 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:12 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:11 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

Third map is on xel'naga caverns

In the top right is slush

While at the bottom is Ret


1:50

Ret gets gas


2:00

Both players getting pool now


3:00

Ling speed on the way for ret


4:30

Baneling nest on the way for Ret


4:45

Ling speed on the way for slush


5:45

Ret gets into the drone line of Slush


7:00

Ret has his expansion up

Lair starting for slush


8:00

Slush makes an infestation pit


9:00

Burrow on the way for Slush


9:30

Pathogen gland on the way for Slush with an expansion
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11308
Hahahaha ok now I know what everyone is talking about with idra. The testbug game, right? Definite lolz
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11309
On June 06 2011 04:15 Redox wrote:
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On June 06 2011 04:11 Ocedic wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:09 BlueSpace wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:04 dcemuser wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:03 arQ wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:02 Brad wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:01 arQ wrote:
So, are we starting a petition for the removal of the extended series? Are there any good reason to keep it?


They use it for Halo.


So no then


Use search. There have been tons of extended series threads already and multiple polls. The answer from MLG was no.


The reason extended series are games like Idra vs Thorzain imho. Without extended series the game would have been entirely meaningless to Idra. He was already first in his group no matter if he won or not.

It could also lead to situations were players could be tempted to hand over wins. I think the concept makes a lot of sense. For example imagine Idra and Thorzain would have belonged to the same team.


This is basically it. The viewers complain extended series hurts them, when in actuality it makes every game count.

No this is of course not it lol.
It is an extremely rare case where a player plays a game in pool play where he doesnt get an advantage by winning.
And MLG used extended series even before there was any pool play and there was a slim chance that there could be a meaningless game for a player. So its quite evident that this is not the reason.


Making every game count actually is the reason they use it. Most of there other tournaments are Bo5 and double elimination so they instituted the extended series rule to make sure all 5 games mattered.
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11310
I sooo want IdrA to win the tourney. He is so good and has earned it (besides his stupid ragequits).
C9 ~^v^~ In EE-sama we trust. ~^v^~ C9
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11311
On June 06 2011 04:05 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
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On June 06 2011 04:04 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:00 Xevious wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:00 leungwk01 wrote:
You can tell artosis is sad that thorzain lost.

Aren't we all?


Nope, MC's the better player I'm glad he won.

no he isnt, he played a tired thorzain and won 2-2 they played a day after, thorzain would have beat him 2-1 but MLG has the rule making skills of a mentally deficient three year old

to be fair, mc beat knocked him out 2-0 already.
Jar Jar Binks
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11312
slush has to kill his own units to lose this
Do you really want chat rooms?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11313
lol what is mc doing
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11314
omg this build so strange, but seems like slush will take this
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#11315
Ret about to be crushed.
the farm ends here
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#11316
DAT SENTRY

OH WOW
lalala
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#11317
On June 06 2011 04:18 obsKura wrote:
I sooo want IdrA to win the tourney. He is so good and has earned it (besides his stupid ragequits).


Agreed D: MMA vs. Idra would make this teh best MLG ever.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#11318
WHAT IS THIS????
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Creep
Profile Joined September 2010
United States229 Posts
June 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#11319
On June 06 2011 04:18 obsKura wrote:
I sooo want IdrA to win the tourney. He is so good and has earned it (besides his stupid ragequits).


If IdrA wins the tourney it would be a great victory for non Koreans.
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
June 05 2011 19:19 GMT
#11320
I normally think the non koreans are kinda way far behind the koreans , but this slush guy has a real good zvz gotta say xD
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
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