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Elche
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland170 Posts
June 05 2011 19:15 GMT
#11241
Will the possible Idra vs MC be an extended series starting with Idra 2-0 lead?
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11242
On June 06 2011 04:14 Khalum wrote:
Mute your stream when they announce the commercial breaks - sound will automatically resume when they are over. I simply switch to another tab, check stuff and as soon as I hear the casters again, the next match will have started. Convenient.


Just use adblockplus. the stream asks you to disable it when you start the stream, so you disable it, and then reenable it when the stream gets going. No more stupid bing :D
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Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11243
On June 06 2011 04:13 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 04:10 TheDougler wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:03 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On June 06 2011 03:57 Chicane wrote:
On June 06 2011 03:56 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 06 2011 03:56 Cri du Chat wrote:
Fucking extended series bullshit kills Thorzain.

I think Thorzain losing is what killed Thorzain


If there weren't extended series, they would be in a second bo3, and MC would be up 1-0.


No, MC would be up 2-0 (aka, he would have won anyway) because he already beat T-Zain in the group phase.


No Thorzain would've won.

Without the extended series Thorzain won a game, then Mc, then Thorzain, then MC Hence the 4-2 final score. If it hadn't been extended tho, it would've been thorzain won, then MC, then thorzain won ending it at 2-1 thorzain.


Stop with the fucking hypothetical situations. If it wasn't an extended series you can't say that Thorzain would've won because MC would've had a very different mentality while playing. At the end of the day, both players knew the setup of the tournament and MC beat Thorzain. Stop bitching, stop making excuses, and fucking accept it. If you want to talk about extended series being shitty, make a different thread for that. But for fuck sake stop with this hypothetical fanboy bullshit whining about how Thorzain should've won. It's enough. Focus on what games are going on now.


Best explanation given. thumbs up
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11244
I think there's a fundamental disconnect between people arguing on opposite sides of the extended series debate. The people in favor are looking at it from a purely player vs. player point of view, where everything that has happened between two players should count. The people against are looking at it from an overall tournament point of view, where the first result already affects the tournament and so there shouldn't be an advantage the second time around.

I don't think this is really a gap that can be bridged because neither position is really inherently correct. It depends on how you feel about who most deserves to win the tournament.
Zero fighting.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11245
On June 06 2011 04:15 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 04:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:13 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:12 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:12 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:11 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:10 Drazerk wrote:
Game three is starting soon


Third map is on xel'naga caverns

In the top right is slush

While at the bottom is Ret


1:50

Ret gets gas


2:00

Both players getting pool now


3:00

Ling speed on the way for ret


4:30

Baneling nest on the way for Ret


4:45

Ling speed on the way for slush


5:45

Ret gets into the drone line of Slush


7:00

Ret has his expansion up

Lair starting for slush
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11246
Sorry tastosis now I'm mutting you. Time to unmute day9 for mc vs moon.


PS: http://www.awakeningofchaos.com/mlgdouble.htm
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11247
Oh god. MC vs Moon? This is going to hurt to watch.

On June 06 2011 04:15 Sernyl wrote:
I might be just stupid ,but could someone explain to me what "image macros" and "eagles" mean?
Thank you.


Image macros are basically pictures with block text on them. "Eagles" refers to the eagle stream.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11248
I wouldn't be shocked if MC looses now to Moon.
Cackle™
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11249
On June 06 2011 04:14 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 04:12 GrungyMunchy wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:08 RajaF wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:07 mholden02 wrote:
Im sorry i don't understand this extended series stuff. In every sport or competition, players or teams who have succeeded earlier like in a regular season either gets buys or home court BUT NEVER GAMES! NEVER!

If a player won 2-0 earlier, let them pick maps, give them an edge, do not damage the matches by giving 1 player a 2-0 or 2-1 lead in games. this is not credible. Its a joke, a sham, ridiculous, bush league ect.....

Please change this. It has already effected Thorzaim vs MC, and may effect idra vs MC later. STOP IT. YOUR RUINING YOUR TOURNAMENT.


There is no regular season at MLG. Jeez, what is so hard to understand. Extended series like this is basically a bo7 played at different times.

No it isn't you idiot. People play different matches with different motivations. Idra played that sloppily against Thorzain in the pool match because he had already was in 1st place, but if he knew that he could possibly be put up against TZ again with a 0-2 disadvantage maybe he would put up more effort into it.


Wow, easy with the name calling there friend. You're calling me an idiot then you go on to prove my point. So who is the idiot now?

I def agree that it's like a best of 7 played at the different time. It's idra's own fault if he threw away 2 games and it came back to bite him in the butt
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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11250
On June 06 2011 04:15 Elche wrote:
Will the possible Idra vs MC be an extended series starting with Idra 2-0 lead?

Yes.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Scout
Profile Joined February 2011
United States49 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11251
Great counter by SLush
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11252
On June 06 2011 04:15 Elche wrote:
Will the possible Idra vs MC be an extended series starting with Idra 2-0 lead?


Yes, any match were both players faced each other before counts.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 19:17:45
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11253
On June 06 2011 04:08 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 04:08 how2TL wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:05 Redox wrote:
On June 06 2011 04:01 Zaurus wrote:
On June 06 2011 03:58 Moogley wrote:
If ThorZain had won their first series 2-0 and then gone on to win the series, I can garuntee you that nobody would be complaining. All I'd read is "THORZAIN SO GUD" and shit like that. Double standards yo.


thumbs up dude. the rule is fair if it applies to everybody. COME ON, accept it like a man. Nobody is saying TZ is not good, is just that he lost, stop whining.

Lol I so dont give a fuck that it was Thorzain who lost due to extended series.
The extended series is just inheritely unfair to whoever lost first because it punishes this palyer TWICE for loosing.
I wont go through the hassle to explain it to you, because it should actually be obvious.

But just one thing, there is noone else in the whole world, no sc2 competion, no other sports competion, that uses this extended series rule besides MLG. Because it is just pure nonsense.


If Thorzain won 2-1, then his head-to-head with MC would be 2-3, but Thorzain would advance. It punishes MC for winning first (exactly the opposite of what you said).

That is the rationale for extended series.

At least argue against the right thing.


MC already gets rewarded for winning first by getting seeded more highly into the championship bracket.


That's a reward for performing better in the pool but not exactly a reward for performing better than the particular member that he won before.

Extended series is basically used to make the double elimination fairer, especially for the final. Think about this, if there is a player who never lose a series until the finals. Then he loses to someone who he have beaten before ans loses the title. That player would be playing in a single elimination (since he can lose only once) while his opponent(s) play in a double elimination system (have to chance for the title). The main aim of the extended series should be to prevent this scenario.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11254
FUCKING REWIND AGAIN AS SLUSH COUNTERATTACKS
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11255
On June 06 2011 04:15 Elche wrote:
Will the possible Idra vs MC be an extended series starting with Idra 2-0 lead?


yes i will be extended series if they will get to play
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11256
Those lings on the left are up to no good :D
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11257
Dat turncoatin' crowd.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11258
On June 06 2011 04:15 Elche wrote:
Will the possible Idra vs MC be an extended series starting with Idra 2-0 lead?


yes
.Trex
Profile Joined December 2010
73 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11259
I saw this build Slush doing from CatZ before
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
June 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#11260
On June 06 2011 04:15 Elche wrote:
Will the possible Idra vs MC be an extended series starting with Idra 2-0 lead?


Yes it will
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