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zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21241
On June 06 2011 07:13 ondik wrote:
why the hell is this just BO3 T_T


having a BO5 would strain the players even more and ruin the schedule.
kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21242
Is the lag caused by battle net or the MLG network?
Little Tortilla Boy
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21243
On June 06 2011 07:11 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:10 Zane wrote:
MMA is eating Losira alive in a macro game.

No, Losira beat himself by donating units like they are free.


Wow this is just so wrong. What he did do well is snipe the nest though, that was the coffin nail after losira donated his units.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21244
I hope these lag spikes aren't distracting the players I don't think its a big deal, but I also don't play this game 12 hours a day

GO GO EPIC MATCH!
We talkin about PRACTICE
Il1idan
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada95 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21245
just wondering are tastosis casting in korea or at mlg? I Probably missed it and can't find the answer
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21246
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


are you a relative to Harold Camping ? Nice prediction.. although just as the world did not go under this most likely will not come true.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:16:45
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21247
SlayerS_MMA fighting! hope he wins the entire MLG

new favorite terran for sure, this guys TvZ is sex!
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21248
On June 06 2011 07:12 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:11 Fionn wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


So we just disallow Koreans and crown paper champions?

OH LOOK! IDRA WINS MLG ANAHEIM! HE'S THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

If the Koreans aren't allowed to come, every champion will just be a paper champion that won't be considered the best because of the competition. If the foreigners want to get better, they need to play the best in the world.

Yep. If foreigners want their scene to have as much validity as the Korean scene they need to start practicing like the koreans.

QFT

Koreans aren't automatically slightly better than other players. They are fucking robots. Hard work=rewarding
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21249
On June 06 2011 07:14 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:04 mordk wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:00 Genome852 wrote:
MMA did "wall in" with the CC at first. But he made the mistake of not realizing that the CC has a rounded model, even if the grid is a square... so lings just ran by the sides of the CC.

On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.

What? Are you implying games aren't worth watching just because of the players' nationality? They aren't "random Koreans" either. So stupid....


Don't reply to these comments.. people watch games for different reasons. I do because I love starcraft, which means I'll be happy to watch koreans at the top if they are truly the best. Other people watch for the hype, and they feel more excited when their homies play. I understand the feelings of many people, although I feel that shouldn't make them miss quality starcraft games.



There is no shortage of quality games, what makes MLG and other tournaments special to me is cheering for personalities I know. Just having random amazing players, that don't speak the language, that are not involved in the western scene (don't stream, don't go on shows, don't contribute) I just don't care about their results.

A korean wins, which one? I certainly don't care, in fact, koreans will take home all the big money, because they are top 3.


Yes, god forbid the best players win all the money in a skill based tournament.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21250
Tasteless - master of the hoarse voice
"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21251
On June 06 2011 07:14 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:14 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is now starting on Typhon Peaks


In the Top left is Losira

While in the Top Right is MMA


2:00

Refinery on the way for MMA
kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
June 05 2011 22:15 GMT
#21252
On June 06 2011 07:15 Il1idan wrote:
just wondering are tastosis casting in korea or at mlg? I Probably missed it and can't find the answer


They are in Columbus
Little Tortilla Boy
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21253
On June 06 2011 07:15 Il1idan wrote:
just wondering are tastosis casting in korea or at mlg? I Probably missed it and can't find the answer

in mlg
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21254
On June 06 2011 07:12 TazzDingo wrote:
What's happening to MLG?

Moon vs MC -> Moon trying the same allin twice in a row
Naniwa vs MC -> weird BO losses
MC vs IdrA -> 2 allins, a towerrush and one real match

Losira vs MMA so far -> a failed wallin in g1 and a really weird push in g2


... where did the quality play go ?

These guys have been playing for 3 days straight, after traveling half way across the world to a country they have never seen before in the case of the koreans. It takes a toll on ya.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21255
On June 06 2011 07:14 Kettchup wrote:
Stop complaining about the Koreans. Take this as a wake-up call and hopefully foreigners will pick up their play.


their play..... ?

they play the same, just practice a lot more....
niteblaze
Profile Joined August 2010
United States143 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21256
On June 06 2011 07:13 War Horse wrote:
MMA is guaranteed the Code S spot right, since even if he loses it'd trickle down to him? Or is in the MLG rules that it has to go to a foreigner? That would be lame =\


No Code S for anyone in this MLG. We've repeated this so many times.

Top 3 NON-KOREANS will get a Code A spot.
fghtuetg
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany65 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21257
2hrs to go until NBA Finals, should be possible to get the last 2 Series done!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21258
On June 06 2011 07:12 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:03 BrahCJ wrote:
Just woke up and it looks like I've missed some of the best games!

A couple of things I want to note.
MajOr did an incredible job at this event.
Sheth and Slush are on the brink of breaking through that "next level"
MLG have done an amazing job. So much so, that I have enough faith to already buy tickets to the next 2 events. Even an act of god didn't stop them.

Now for the bombshell.
I don't like the fact that Koreans have come through and taken *all* (top 3) the money. Yes, they provided the "best" play, and are incredibly solid/strong/gosu, however to have "The greater race" fly in for 3 days, walk away with $12,000, and leave isn't good for the foreigner scene.
As is obvious, we have a pretty amazing audience now-days, but I don't believe we're giving the best foreigners the best chance at making this game viable. And if the best can't win an event like this, what is left for those at the brink of deciding whether or not they're going to dedicate their time/money/life to gaming, or to a 9-5 job.

Just like I buy the items with the "Made in Australia" tag over those made in China, I feel we should support the NA scene more than we did at MLG Columbus. Either that, or make it equally viable for foreigners to go to Korea, as it is for Korea to come to NA
(3 days for $5k, opposed to 1 month for $1500 in code A)

Sincearly,
Concerned fan.


QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

This should be on the front page of TL. If Koreans come into the western tournaments and take all the money then the western scene is dead. Players like Naniwa and Thorzain could not afford to attend these tournaments if they had not won previous ones. In the future those types of players simply won't show up, because it will be a given that the Koreans will win.

Don't invite the best in the world because we are to bad to compete with them?

Players like Naniwa have said that they WANT to compete against the BEST otherwise it is not a true "competition".. The more integrated the western and Korean scene becomes is BETTER for esports as a whole. BW died out everywhere except in Korea - having Koreans fly in for foreigner tournaments works against that same outcome.

Anyway; i really want MMA to take this!!! Even if he loses though then we get MMA vs MC?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21259
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


Don't worry. There can still be online tournaments, where the koreans have to play under horrible conditions, so that the foreigners can feel like little gosus.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#21260
On June 06 2011 07:15 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:14 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is now starting on Typhon Peaks


In the Top left is Losira

While in the Top Right is MMA


2:00

Refinery on the way for MMA


2:10

Hatch first for Losira
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